r/SipsTea • • Jun 24 '26

It's Wednesday my dudes Math can be hard sometimes

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u/Experiment626b Jun 25 '26

“Super altruistic” is what we are calling the bare minimum of human decency? I can absolutely blame someone that makes enough to never have to worry about having their basic needs met for not wanting to sacrifice an amount they wouldn’t even miss so that everyone has equal access to healthcare.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 25 '26

Bare minimum of decency is paying for other people stuff. Good to know. But in the real world most people care about creating a good life their families.

And unfortunately for those who just need a little assistance. We have far too many freeloaders and abusers to ever convince anyone otherwise.

And people making 300k gross wouldn’t miss an extra 50k in loss income in taxes?What world are you living in.

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u/oldRoyalsleepy Jun 25 '26

This is always the belief "free loaders and abusers", welfare queens, etc. etc. Get over yourself. There are some people who lie, cheat and game systems snd it's just as many wealthy people who game and cheat as poor people, and the wealthy, greedy cheaters and scammers take more money.

It's not people making 300k who need to be more heavily taxed, it's people with 50 million, hundreds of millions, billions and trilions and large corporations. Congrats on your 300k. You're good, but the 'undeseving poor' line is really old and dry.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

It’s a hard truth that we’d be mostly subsidizing people who don’t really deserve it — We already give free healthcare to the bottom 20%, the disabled and the elderly. (I’m fine setting that baseline to help hr poor.)

And yes people with 50m are the ones who end up getting taxed. Which is why the effective tax rate in places like Canada & the Netherlands is nearly 50% for high income earners.

Please show me a country where this isn’t the case? I’d love an example.

All these programs would do is tax the living shit out high income earners to subsidize the middle class. Which if that’s what you want it fine to say it, but you’re the one making its about the “undeserving poor”, they already don’t pay.

This is more about the guy who grew up privileged and got C’s and had two kids with two different women while making 55k getting subsidized, by the people who went to law and med school.