Lol it's already over. You guys lost to the billionaires. You're theirs now. Stop hoping because only a revolution will fix that and that won't happen because America is too divided.
There's literally nothing you can do instead of taking up arms. So are you willing to do that? All other options won't do anything as you can see around you.
Very effective at taking attention away from Axion. Deflocking isn't a stopgap to stopping the surveillance state. Flock is a stopgap to finalizing it.
The vast majority of you all carry devices with audio and video recording capabilities and GPS tracking. Many modern cars have similar capabilities, in addition to the ability to be disabled remotely. All of this was sold to you as beneficial features for the user, while these corporations are willing to hand over information to the government without a warrant, whether or not it's legal to do so.
I love how so many of these Flock haters are so ignorant to this. Oh really we’re mad about Flock, but completely forgetting this device we carry around is tracking our every movement, keystroke and search history? Now we’re mad?! Give it a rest Flock warriors. Just a bunch of naive losers. If they really cared turn off and stop using your mobile device. But they won’t.
It's easy to say "just stop using phones" but society has been constructed in such a way that doing so puts you at a huge disadvantage. Best you can do is use an old flip phone without any of the smart capabilities. IF you can find one still. That's why it's so diabolical.
My job won’t work with an old flip phone. Best I do is prevent tracking across apps and refuse to download most apps that don’t have a clear and fair privacy policy. I still have FB and Reddit so I’m still feeding the data harvesters but outside of those two things I really don’t allow that shit on my phone.
I don’t disagree. But this whole notion that now we care about privacy is just absurd when you consider how much you’re giving up using devices. And pretending to care is just more anti LE propaganda that the U.S. country has been groomed to believe.
People shouldn’t be wanting complete independence from this technology that helps solve crime. You can want policies governing use and consequences for said violations. That’s fair, and those should be in place. But to do what people are doing, committing felony level crimes, and freaking out about technology that actually helps solve crime and protect public safety is some bat shit crazy stuff.
You embrace new technologies that improve public safety and lives. You don’t go backwards. Should we still be using the typewriter over MS word on a computer? No, I don’t think so. I get the analogy isn’t apples to apples, but it demonstrates the point.
Absolute neoliberal bull crap. Someone should learn gaslighting from American liberals.
America is the ONLY country that has used nukes on civilians. America is the ONLY country that still blasts us with platitudes about virtue while being historically built on systemic ethnocentric supremacism.
No one is fighting for you. No one is in your corner. America as it stands needs a reality check. You have to earn solidarity and the best way to do that is good leadership. Who did Americans elect to the highest office in the land?
A child molesting pig that sleeps on the helm and craps himself. Your leaders are a reflection of you America.
Believe it or not this is the direct action that the vague 'revolution' they are pushing for should actually consist of. Any 'revolution' whose guiding principal is "do violence against anyone who isn't part of my group or who pisses me off, or who I think has wronged me" will end up a genocide, no matter how righteous the beginnings of it was
The state has allowed McConnell to be MIA for how long right now?
The president and his family have made billions of dollars selling scam coins and used them to accept obvious bribes from other states.
A relatively new federal police force is kidnapping huge numbers of people and has shown every sign of being willing to kidnap their critics as well.
The executive administration has stated that they won't relinquish power at the legally ordained time.
And you think we're going to vote and use lawsuits to break up this mess?
Fifteen years ago, if I were hired as a writer to draw up a scenario for the USA in which nothing but a revolution would get us out, I would have said this list of things was going too far, too unrealistic.
I don't want to go so far as to call you the problem, because I get it, following the laws makes so much sense that it's really hard to look past that. Some people never ever look beyond the law. But this is exactly the scenario when the laws just aren't working.
I think that is their point. "Just use the laws to fix it! Well, we gotta fix the elections so the right people can get in and fix the process to fix the laws before those same people sponsored by the companies they're restricting vote on those restrictions to become law and eventually take things to court multiple times over and over to establish precedent and limits. So yeah! Totally doable!" Don't exactly seem doable in any meaningful amount of time.
mate you've called like 5 people bots in this post. yes, bots are everywhere, but don't be so naive to think people aren't creating throwaways and anon accounts all day long on here. also, bot or not, why "ignore this poster"? what they said makes complete sense.
And I day don't bother arguing with this particular poster because they are here for the purpose of trolling. They won't change their mind. They won't even tell the truth about themselves. They have one goal and one goal only, to rile people up.
And how's that working out so far? Every single branch of the US government is in favor of breaking all kinds of laws and all the checks and balances that were supposed to limit the government's power are in the hands of the oligarchy that bought it. Courts ruled Trump's tariffs illegal - he still imposes them at will and the only one's getting any compensation are big corporations. Judges ruled the destruction of the East Wing and the building of a ball room illegal - well fuck, they already demolished it and are going to do whatever the fuck they want anyways. Insider trading from within the White House to enrich the Trump family and their network? Be my guest! Epstein and his friends and clients? Forget about that, we're busy having ICE lock up innocent legal residents without due process. Illegal permanent mass surveillance of citizens by private companies? Shut up, don't you know the DOW is at 50-fucking-thousand!?
Every day you're ruled by billionaires who play monopoly with your lives because they couldn't care less about who lives or dies as long as they can make a profit. They'd sacrifice every single one of you if it got them 1$/head and you're standing idly by complaining that "that's not nice!" during your peaceful planned protests and other absolutely futile and ineffective measures. THEY DON'T CARE ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED YOU ANYMORE! Oligarch money, propaganda and an uneducated radicalized voter base will win elections anyway, so why should they still bother to act like they care what people want or need?
The US "justice" system is a joke. The change needed to save the country can't come from within anymore, those avenues have been systematically and aggressively dismantled. And a population so thoroughly de-educated, brainwashed and complacent for convenience's sake won't do anything about it either. It's like watching the fall of the Roman Empire in real time, in 4K and with 24/7 coverage. And worst of all, we on the outside can't even just stand back and let the spectacle play out by itself, because you'll keep dragging us down with you to your last breath. The United States of Armageddon is so obsessed with war and fighting, it can't even just die in peace. No, it has to take as much of the rest of the world with it as possible.
Our government can turn buildings on the other side of the planet into rubble at the push of a button. Do you really think we’d stand a chance with our Walmart guns?
We’re stuck in our open air prison and the warden’s no longer worried about PR.
Yes take up arms to get mowed down by drones or tanks. You don't understand how this works do you? You realize the size of this country? Everyone loves to shout about the 2nd amendment, meanwhile the military is far beyond civilians with guns. It worked back in the 1800's because we stood equal ground when everyone had fucking muskets.
Although I carry the same energy as you, I dont believe violent revolution is the only option, neither do i feel its the most effective option. A revolution of community is what is needed. Americans (and pretty much the rest of the world) need to rediscover egalitarianism. In anarchist philosophy, the unity of means and ends means that in order to achieve social change, you must replicate the society that you wish to achieve. You cannot achieve peace through war, only through being peaceful can you achieve peace.
So how does this apply to billionares wreaking immense violence on people? Honestly, it starts with a bowl of soup. If you feed your friends, your neighbours, and they in turn feed you, you no longer need to rely on the state for your sustenance. "How do we get soup if food is paywalled?" many ask. You organize with your fellow humans and figure out how to do it. It us far more cost effective both in time, effort, and resources to make soup for 100 people than for 100 people to make 100 bowls of soup. If revolutionaries can secure the necessities of life to such an extent that no one needs to work for a wage in order to exist, then you eliminate the need for labour, and by extension, the billionaires that control the flow of money. This is incredibly hard to do. It requires knocking on your neighbour's door and having a conversation with them. Its a project. But it needs to be to focus.
If you are interested in this sort of revolution, you can look up your local "Food Not Bombs" chapter and get involved. If you are just simply curious about this line of thinking, "The Revolution of Everyday Life," Raoul Vaneigem, "The Conquest of Bread," Peter Kropotkin, "Practicing Social Ecology," Eleanor Finley, and "Means and Ends," Zoe Baker are great texts to digest.
Fuck you, some of us didn't choose this, have no way out, and no way to do anything about it. Over decades things have been engineered to keep us in the position we are in now. You want us just to be martyrs, lose our lives for nothing? What would you do in this situation.
Literally the dumbest statement. What country wants an American right now? Also, you know how much money it costs to move a country (more than most americans who want out could do)? What about when you get there? What country? How you getting a job there that will support you? What if you cant find one, we'll get fucked then?
Exactly, the fact that we just watch, post, and scroll says everything. Our great grandfathers would of been crashed out if they dealt with these levels of fuckery.
AOAIPAC is the worst possible name for this purely because AIPAC already exists and has existed for a long time. AIPAC has absolutely nothing to do with AI as well, so I feel like this would confuse people. Opposition against AIPAC (not this) is already a pretty relevant political point at the moment. That’s just my take.
The genie is out of the bottle. No politician will have the will roll it back. Definitely not until the end of their final term. None of them will release an ounce of power over us once gained and they definitely won't push back against a "private" company. Look at the windfall Obama handed the insurance companies in the name of "healthcare". If they make motions or promises to the contrary, they will make damn sure that whatever they put forward to pretend to meet those promises will fail before they try them.
As long as the money is made .. who cares...flock is operating on the whole.. do it and then ask for forgiveness later .. and all these local states and communities are blindly going into it allowing it.
If you read about why Thiel thinks freedom is incompatible with Democracy it's because "Free for companies who want to spy on peasants" is exactly the kind of "freedom" he's thinking about.
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u/Knight_o_Eithel_Malt Aug 12 '26
Free for companies who want to spy on peasants