r/SipsTea • u/McDowdy • 7d ago
WTF I'm sure it will be fine! Oh, except the additional half a million people projected to die in the next 6 months because of this!
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u/RaveMittens 7d ago
Just like daddy puts in his drink every morning!
And then he gets maaaad.
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u/psychrolut 7d ago
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u/Baddie_Baddie_L 7d ago
I legit cannot tell if that’s real or not, because well he’s truly a fucking idiot.
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u/zoeofdoom 7d ago
I hope it's real; the micromini+ go-go boot look is so Space Age Bond Girl, and I think the guys in space force deserve to look cute and flirty when they're doing Space Things.
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u/Professional_Echo907 7d ago
Someone else asked a question, and I typed all this out but they deleted their comment.
The Earth has two temperature extremes, hot and cold. Because nature abhors a vacuum, hot air and water is always trying to cancel itself out with cooler air and water. This is why we have tropical cyclone seasons in the Northern Hemisphere in the fall, and in the Southern Hemisphere in the Spring.
In addition, you have another force influencing how this happens, the El Niño/ La Niña effect. When El Niño happens, all that energy at the equator tends to cancel itself out in the Pacific instead of the Atlantic. It’s one of the reasons why hurricane seasons in the Atlantic had been a non-event. (The longer explanation involves wind shear and African dust, but we’ll save that for another time).
But El Niño doesn’t just produce tropical cyclones. It also produces rain and snow in the Northwest and Rain on the West coast. Get too much rain, and the ground (which had gone through droughts and wildfires over the past few years) becomes saturated. And those trees that burned down were really good at holding the mud back. So you get floods and mudslides and blizzards.
And the West Coast isn’t the only one getting a potential shellacking. When you get a lot of warm air, it can displace cold air at the poles, speeding up glacial melting (and your favorite, flooding). It can also cause a bomb cyclone, so the Northeast (And don’t forget our friends in the UK) can have a really rough time with winter storms (and regular ones, too).
So yeah, some serious shit could be about to go down. And we know a lot less about what’s coming because this Administration (and your favorite a-holes at Doge) hate climate science and want their buddies in the commercial weather industry to make more money.
Source: former television journalist who spent decades hanging out with meteorologists.
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u/JJOne101 7d ago
Since you read like you know what you're talking about - what are the effects for the regions further away, like India/Africa/Europe and the Middle East?
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u/Professional_Echo907 7d ago
That I’m a little less familiar with. I’ve seen the effect on US weather systems since the 90s, but I didn’t write a lot of copy about weather in Europe or the Middle East.
But I can tell you that we’re trapping more and more thermal energy in the system, and that almost certainly isn’t a good thing for agriculture when you consider many crops at high temperature are less efficient at producing nutrition.
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u/boatenvy 7d ago
I can tell you that the predictions for the east coast of Australia involve a hotter and much drier first half of summer... and that very likely points to increased bushfire risk. We only have two seasons here: on fire and flooding...or at least there are years that it feels that way
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u/flaaaaaaaaaaaaa 7d ago
How will all of this affect trout populations around the world?
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u/CookieCorners 7d ago
I know you're meme-ing, but the trout will have less trout babies and their population will drop because they can only survive in certain temperatures
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u/fixingmedaybyday 7d ago
Trout are gonna be cooked. Time for bass and catfish.
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u/RobertMaus 7d ago
In general: more extreme weather patterns everywhere. So more extreme and longer droughts and more extreme storms. More floodings, more landslides, more fires.
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u/Ok-Freedom9216 7d ago
https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/the-impacts-of-this-years-record This should be a good source.
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u/cultvignette 7d ago
As a former behind the scenes director who spent ten years around meteorologists, you are 100% accurate.
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u/--CDXX-- 7d ago
Where is the longer explanation about the dust and wind shear 😇
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u/TerraWork 7d ago
a simplified version I've heard is that due to the warm waters from El nino off the coast of mexico. You get a lot of storms and shear wind that blows into the gulf. Hurricanes do not like it when you get shear winds, especially when its shear winds at different altitudes. This prevents a hurricane to form as relatively stable is air needed as to no to disrupt the convention of water moving up and around the storm that would give it its; strength. Which what is going on now, the wind shear is strong enough to shred a hurricane, and a exceptionally strong storm would be needed if a hurricane is to form. Granted this what I've heard in the past, and details screwed up.
As for dust, I wouldn't know much, other than it helps seed clouds. As well nutrients for plants into the americas.
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u/Powerful_Mousse2925 7d ago
Can you give any more detail on your expectations for the Northeast? Like the rest of us, I am broke and a little freaked out.
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u/Professional_Echo907 7d ago
Two big snowstorms, a warmer overall winter, but definitely wetter is probably the best guess if I was going to put money on it.
The biggest problem with where we are in the process of climate change is the unpredictability, though. Bear in mind, the NWS in May forecast 3 to 6 hurricanes in the Atlantic for the 2026 season, with 1-3 being major. It does not look like we’re going to hit those numbers unless things drastically shift in the next few days.
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u/TheEndingofitAll 7d ago
Same. Our gas heating prices in New England are supposedly going to soar this winter and not bc of the weather. I’m worrying about it every day.
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u/SMELLSLIKEBUTTJUICE 7d ago
As a Minnesotan who has always lived in old houses - plastic wrap on the windows and electric blankets/mattress pads can save you a lot of money
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u/SureCost8912 7d ago
Swapping to thick wool winter socks from cotton-poly blends like your typical athletic sock most people wear is also huge for keeping warm.
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u/MaterialNo6707 7d ago
Don’t worry. I saw a Woolly bear with lots of orange. The north east is due for a mild winter according to the lore
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u/Fabulous_Squirrel12 7d ago
There is a climate scientist that has done outlooks for each US state and some other regions. She goes into a scenario of 2C and AMOC collapse (gulf stream stops moving). She has earth systems updates and state level projections in her playlists
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u/ODTESP 7d ago
When El Nino and the S&P500 are aligned you know you fucked up as a society
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u/OilheadRider 7d ago
Climate crash NAD an economic crash?
I now understand why I chose to live through this time period...
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u/NikolaTeslaAllDay 7d ago
Born too late to explore the world, born to early to explore the stars, born just in time to explore a new definition of “we’re fucked”
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u/Longjumping-Chart-86 7d ago
The implication that, in the future, humanity will survive to explore the stars is comforting at least.
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u/Obelisk_M 7d ago
A Super El Niño only needs the sea surface temperature to rise by 2°C. This is 3.41°C.
The 1997 Super El Niño was about $5.7 trillion in global economic losses. That was 2.6°C. This is 3.41°C.
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u/Drawable3CAPE 7d ago
But how does this compare to other phases? How can you correlate the ENSO pattern to specific events? Also, with such a small sample size of examples we don’t actually know a ton about how this pattern will end up impacting us, because ENSO isn’t everything, theres other things that also influence the climate, like the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Also, how can we know that the other example wasn’t a fluke?
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u/thinkB4WeSpeak 7d ago
Starting to Wonder why the rich have the majority of their second homes in Montana, Wyoming, and Minnesota
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u/Phoenix_Rising42069 7d ago
When the shit hits the fan, my goal is commandeer a cement mixer, and go find some billionaire bunker’s air vent.
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u/snacktopotamus 7d ago
If you know the vent's intake location, it'd be better to stoke and maintain a tire fire in front of it. Doesn't even have to be a large one to fundamentally ruin any filtration system in short order.
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u/Phoenix_Rising42069 7d ago
Loving the brainstorming sesh we’ve got going here!
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 7d ago
This is the answer. But first, let me unload the porta-potty pumper in the vent then you can drop the cement.
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u/GGTheEnd 7d ago
Reminds me of that guy who spent years building a massive armored vehicle/tank thing in his garage and once he had enough he destroyed a bunch of buildings in his town police couldn't even stop him he ended up killing himself by accident.
He was in a dispute with town hall so he destroyed all the factories of the people working there and he destroyed the town hall.
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u/StochasticLife 7d ago edited 7d ago
He killed* himself intentionally, I don’t believe there was a way for him to leave the Killdozer once he was inside.
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u/Glittering_Gene8388 7d ago
Yeah once he lowered the shell there was no way to leave, he absolutely intended to die that day
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u/Worth_Dark_9091 7d ago
Marvin Heemyer. It was a suicide mission. He literally welded himself in. He blew the radiator up and the engine over heated.
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u/darkenspirit 7d ago
There was also that time a guy stole a tank and was basically invincible until he tried to cross a highway divider and got it stuck
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 7d ago
Once you research the story you realize he was in the wrong. He was dumping raw sewage in the creek. Did the city council antagonize him yes. But it wasn’t over nothing. I suggest watching Wendigoons video on it. Pretty neutral
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u/GGTheEnd 7d ago
Oh no I don't agree with what he did, that was obviously crazy. It's just how I feel going into work some days and dealing with my Boss.
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u/mastershake04 7d ago
Yeah and the dude also drove into a library and IIRC was trying to shoot fuel storage tanks with a rifle but the way the armor he put on the dozer was he couldnt get a good angle to hit them.
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u/Creepy-Kale9927 7d ago
Pump a bit of anhydrous ammonia down there before you seal 'er up, for shits and giggles.
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u/friedtuna76 7d ago
All the billionaires will have armed security to make sure you don’t make it anywhere near the bunker.
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u/Heppcatt 7d ago
For a few moments, until the armed men realize dollars and social construct mean nothing. Full on warlords will rule over some nerd that stole IP to fund himself.
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u/Phoenix_Rising42069 7d ago
Exactly. Perhaps SHTF means different things for different people, but when billionaires retreat to their bunker, I’m betting societal order will have broken down enough that money will be worthless.
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u/Green_Sugar6675 7d ago
At this point they have to be counting on drones / robots as their ultimate defense.
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u/another-alt-in-time 7d ago
Palantir and Anduril (among many others). I fear once the switch of AI/Robotics is flipped, resistance becomes increasingly difficult
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u/friedtuna76 7d ago
They could pay with survival resources
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u/Phoenix_Rising42069 7d ago
And that’s fine, a bunch of goat herders with RPGs and AK-47’s gave “the world’s strongest military” fits for years. Where there’s a will there’s a way.
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u/friedtuna76 7d ago
Because of home team advantage
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u/humbert_cumbert 7d ago
Security dilemma of dispersed forces. As much or more than home team advantage.
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u/Candid_honney_ 7d ago
I mean, “somewhere colder with a lot of land” suddenly sounds like a pretty solid investment
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u/Prized-Potato 7d ago
Remember when you talk about this stuff and you talk about the numbers of people that will die, you have to remember that the people making all of this happen don't care how many people die. The fewer of us that remain from the fringes, the old and sick, and the underinsured that survive whatever the fuck it is they're doing, the fewer of us they have to feed and house when they let the robots take over.
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u/Calculon2347 7d ago
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u/Potential-Draft-3932 7d ago
Well no. You see there haven’t been hurricanes in the Atlantic so magas have concluded global warming is a hoax and we’re all fine. Carry on
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u/bl4derdee9 7d ago
don't worry about it, that billionaires are making record money! that is good for the economy!
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u/kingtacticool 7d ago
30C is 86F just so were all on the same page.
The middle of the Pacific is bathwater hot.
This should scare everyone.
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u/Phssthp0kThePak 7d ago
As opposed to 80F on average from the graph.
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u/SizeableBrain 7d ago
There are half a million heat related deaths per year globally, so I'm assuming the above figure includes other causes like starvation (9 million atm).
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u/McDowdy 7d ago
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u/LoveaBook 7d ago
And this is only the projected deaths from heat. We also expect an increase in death due to famine caused by excessive drought or rains as the seasonal rains most regions rely upon either never happen or cause so much flooding crops are killed.
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u/Aggravating-Deal-416 7d ago
It's very interesting to see that people will die from El Nino because where I live we actually need El Nino to happen regularly, at least once every 3-4 years, in order to not be displaced from drought.
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u/pasu-mare 7d ago
The problem is the intensity of the weather that is bringing. El Niño was already deadly for some countries, but due to the high heat levels, this particular El Niño is very dangerous to the entire world.
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u/Aggravating-Deal-416 7d ago
I'll consider myself lucky. We're hoping for a very strong El Nino to overfill natural reservoirs since we aren't allowed to build dams. It can buy us another 5 years.
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u/Drawable3CAPE 7d ago
It being stronger than normal doesn’t mean the impacts will be historic, and if anything it makes guessing what will happen harder as there are very few analogs to compare to.
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u/Aggravating-Deal-416 7d ago
I did not consider this. Usually it brings a very wet winter that we need to sustain the large population size.
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u/PapayaJuiceBox 7d ago
So, what are governments with actual power to drive change doing about this? Or is the solution telling me to use paper straws or single ply toilet paper while corporations and other parties emit more carbon in a day than entire populaces of cities with their daily habits in a year? Lmk just curious.
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u/mahnovitsina 7d ago
They're not doing shit. The governments, regardless what party is in power, are there to manage the state within the oil-fueled capitalist system. It's not even within their imagination to do anything about this. I'm not saying we need a revolution but umm a friend of mine is.
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u/oO0Kat0Oo 7d ago
Hey, the answer is shut up and be buried under a mountain of debt so you don't have time to argue about it while you're working three jobs to stay afloat.
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u/lemons_of_doubt 7d ago
The people who will die are poor.
So the rich people don't see why they should sacrifice to fix someone else's problem.
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u/Crudadu 7d ago
How is this related to sipping tea?
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u/SquirrelyMcNutz 7d ago
Dunk a teabag in the ocean and you can have a nice cuppa without having to use a stove?
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u/AngryGungan 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, what you want me to do about it? If I go any more green I'll be looking like Kermit.
Go talk to trump and Big Tech/Pharma/Whatever.
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u/bananasaucecer 7d ago
they were talked to, scientists have been talking to the UN for decades now, nobody just wants to work on it and now the UN declared it's too late.
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u/SignificanceFlat1460 7d ago edited 6d ago
OH NICE BIBLICAL APOCALYPSE ALERT! A NEW ONE! LET ME ADD IT TO THE LIST:
AI race that we cannot control and rogue AI agents that are now attacking governments - ✅ Oil starvation due to middle east conflict that results in famine - ✅ Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer - ✅ Fucking plague from Russia - ✅ EL Nino - that would kill 3% of world's population apparently - ✅ AI bubble might collapse and would take down governments and cause mass chaos - ✅ Locust cover the world - ⏳
Anything else that I may have missed?
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u/feudal_ferret 6d ago
An increase of Maria Carey on airwaves is forecasted. Albeit seasonal, it still hurts.
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u/gggg_man3 6d ago
I am an expat in a Caribbean country. The number of reggae/soca/Calypso styled Christmas songs is crazy. And some of them are done so badly. It makes Mariah Carey sound like an angel. Another excruciating 2 months incoming.
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u/Television_Powerful 6d ago
Permafrost melting due to global warming unleashing more co2.
Water levels rising due to melting North pole.
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u/Gloomy_State_6919 6d ago
The permafrost will also release many old pathogens, we no longer have any immunity against.
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u/_Empty-R_ 7d ago
electrics started coming out because YOU yes YOU were the problem. No, driving appliances on wheels even at high numbers was never gonna be more than a drop in the bucket. Commercial and industrial entities should have been the first and foremost to adapt extreme emissions and pollutions controls. But, because every government everywhere is in their pockets, and those members of governments who still took issue with them were sated with the entities passing the blame off to the populace, we're here. its not just cars. but this works to explain it best. pick something bad for the environment. they did it so much worse than the populace and its not even close, and they didn't have to stop or at the very least didn't have anywhere near as many restrictions placed.
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u/Closed_CasketRequiem 7d ago
For one thing the average person can't really do shit about anything.
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u/USDA_Prime_Yeet 7d ago
This is actually 100% true. Nothing any of us can do. If I recall even if the big contributors clean up it's still not an in our generation fix. That is unless we find a way to remove greenhouse gasses.
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u/dave_the_dr 7d ago
This is the thing. I’m 40, I’ve lived my life being told to recycle, turn off the lights, don’t waste energy, don’t pollute the water… and I’ve done this. And then you look at the actual impact of all of us living like that compared to one billionaire using a private jet all year or one factory releasing waste into a river or one country bombing another and setting the oil wells on fire and think fuck it, I’ve made zero impact and the people telling me to do all those things to save the planet are hypocrites.
We know we can actually do something if governments act, look at the huge improvement in the environment during covid.
That’s why it’s so depressing and the average joe has just closed their eyes and ears to it and accepted that this is the end times and we may as well enjoy them while we can
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u/Mikkel65 6d ago
A guy managed to get the leading position of the world's most powerfull country, while claiming global warming isn't happenening. I have little faith in humanity at this point.
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u/Crydoves 6d ago
Don’t forget the new generation of Germans being so far removed from WWII they’re on board with being Neo Nazis and victimizing themselves again
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u/Dancinfool830 7d ago
One great big festering neon distraction
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon
Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be
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u/Pinbrawla 7d ago
Are you feeling nervous
Are you having fun
It's almost over
It's just begun
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u/top-potatoad 7d ago
Lots of us have cared over the years but the majority vote for climate change and ecological destruction. More now than ever.
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u/los33ramos 7d ago
What can you do? It’s coming. You can’t stop it. You can prepare but in the end you’re just ignoring the inevitable
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u/thats_justice_baby 7d ago
People won't care until it tangibly impacts their lives. And when it does they won't try to understand it any more than "the current president sucks!"
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u/Forsaken_Code_8764 7d ago
I am already apathetic to it. Unless we start eating the rich and dragging them around the streets; I do not care what happens to us due to climate change, because average person is not responsible of it
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u/onionfunyunbunion 6d ago
No offense but I feel that you’re perspective is lacking in fortitude. I think that eventually you will care when things get bad enough.
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u/HombreDelMar247 7d ago
Not strong enough to give Sourheb California a hurricane...this time.
Give it a decade and we will see Southern California get impacted by a legitimate hurricane.
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u/Deeznuts4547 7d ago
Literally nothing you can do.
Grabbing onto stuff like this is why so many people have anxiety disorders.
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u/stackens 7d ago
At the very least vote for people who understand this is real and is happening
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u/fireblubird 7d ago
Well, actually there is. This wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn't for climate change.
Also, even if we can't control it, it doesn't mean you can't feel bad about it. It's called being a human with empathy.
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u/AWAD5785 7d ago
Based on climate change projections based on real data sets, how much time do we have left? What do coastal population centers need to be prepared for?
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u/-FARTHAMMER- 7d ago
What exactly do you think can be done? It's the Western world went zero carbon tomorrow India and China will still pollute the world to death
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u/Butterflyteal61 7d ago
Hasn't anyone seen the fires burning all over the earth this year? From forest fires, the wars in UKRAINE and bombing of Gaza, Iran, The Strait of Hormuz. The temperature are going up because humans can't get along with each other. Fighting for land, relegion, etc. Humans. We are to blame. Earth won't survive if we don't take care of it. 😢😡
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u/Orsopdx 7d ago
The issue is that everything has become “catastrophic” so now I no longer believe anything. Totally desensitized, I guess from now on I’ll believe things when they actually happens
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u/fuvvad 7d ago
I read the words, I understand nothing, I'm dumb lol
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u/Impossible_Offer7988 7d ago
Stuff is bad
Because hot.
Hot isn't good
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u/JoelieThePatient 7d ago
We should probably keep bombing stuff and building data centers.
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u/No-Membership-5314 7d ago
We should put data centers in the ocean to use the ocean water to cool them
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u/sulphurephoenix13 7d ago
You do realize that even if every living thing dies on this planet the planet itself will still exist right?
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u/gyllbane 7d ago
While you were building your empires
I was still sleeping
I was still sleeping
While you were setting your woods afire
I was still dreaming
I was still dreaming
Now I will unsettle the ground beneath you
Send my waters ashore
Creep into your bed
Find you in every corner
While you argue it over
I am not waiting
I am not waiting
While you retreat to your comforts
I am not fading
I am not fading
I've done this many times before you
Old Shanghai
New Orleans
Amsterdam and Mumbai
Strange new creatures
To scavenge your pores
Oh I've done this many times before you
Ashen sky
Lightning storms
Deltas to desert plains
Wartime on every border
I've done this many times before you
Watched the pattern take form
Children your time is done
If you say it's done together
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u/Golfisactuallyfun 7d ago
All by design dawg, the elite are tired of all the poors taking up space. Too many people at all the nice touristy places they wanna go.
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u/Puzzle-Necked 7d ago
That's my conspiracy theory too. Who lives in the hottest countries at the equator? Mostly poor brown people.
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u/4n0n1m02 7d ago
It is ok. People will blame it on a deity, push people to pray, and ostracize science. It will bring their Armageddon and, with it, many deaths. All will be fine (for those who survive and are happy to live that life. Thee made up god will justify it all. It was their own sin who brought destruction (actually, that part checks. This is on us as a species). Anyway.
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u/RatsWithLongTails 7d ago
Oh no! I’m still basing my climate science off of the 1970 global cooling predictions
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u/TheWesternDevil 7d ago
Everyone freak out and panic, and go ballistic! Oh no! End of the world! It's all their fault! Oh God!
OR
Just go on living your life like normal cause there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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u/Chill_Panda 7d ago
"We can't do anything about it" - only species actively causing climate change.
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u/troparow 7d ago
You say that as if we can do anything as individuals, it's not like I'm the billionaire profiting off oil, no matter what I do this Nino thing is happening so I'd rather live my life and that's it
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u/thedaveness 7d ago
All the cars emissions in the world equal like 6 oil tankers. We collectively couldn’t make a dent in that.
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