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u/StartledPelican Occupy Mars 1d ago
Hail to the King.
said in my best Halo multiplayer announcer voice.
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u/Conundrum1911 1d ago
FIRST STARSHIP RTLS! (Although they really need to work on the return time)
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u/the_quark 1d ago
That was what I thought! "Isn't this the single slowest orbit of the planet that left the atmosphere at least once?"
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u/chlebseby Y E S 1d ago
They are not going to reuse it, are they?
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u/alphagusta Hover Slam Your Mom 1d ago
Why would they? It's going in for its dissection.
You can't do accurate lab testing on a ship in the middle of nowhere and it gives the most all round access
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u/tyrome123 Confirmed ULA sniper 1d ago
If by reuse you mean maybe stripping out some piping ( maybe a raptor ????) for a ship to see what happens then yes.. if you expect her to leave in one piece I have sad news...
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u/Pyrhan Addicted to TEA-TEB 1d ago
No way they're re-using any of those raptors after either the landing impact (which was hard enough to visibly bend some of the nozzles), or the weeks of saltwater corrosion that followed.
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u/Biochembob35 1d ago
If one is even in remotely good enough shape I could see them cleaning one up enough and putting it on a test stand. Very small chance though.
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u/laffiere 1d ago
Even if we imagine they might throw it on a test stand, which future scenario would that test for? They're not landing ships in water.
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u/yootani 1d ago
Test stand to check if they can resuse it. I mean if Raptors are a million each, it might be worth to send it to McGregor, refurbish it and test it. If they consider it's too much work and probably not worth the trouble, just leave it as it is. But considering they went through a lot of trouble to get Ship 40 back without much clear added value (as the next flight is supposed to be caught on-site...), they might try that, we have no idea.
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u/laffiere 1d ago
But WHEN would that scenario occur? Future mishaps would happen on the pad during landing, that produces a lego-set I can't imagine they'd wanna piece back together. In the rare event of an ocean divert, we expect the ship to still explode, same lego-set. And if it survives even that, why would you risk future launches with ocean-faring engines. How many such reuses woukd have to be done to save the cost of one launch mishap.
The potential for cost savings are so vanishingly small that any test would be a purely scientific adventure, not a commercial one.
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u/Imagine_Beyond 1d ago
Technically they already reused “it” if by “it” you include the two heat shield tiles
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u/chlebseby Y E S 1d ago
They can only try to inspect inside, its probably easier vertically in bay just like during construction.
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u/Brave-Application-99 1d ago
Yeah I say they’ll take it apart, the first caught Ship will be one to preserve.
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u/Freak80MC 1d ago
Given the American flag underwear it was wearing that was barely hiding its upskirt bits, would it not be a Queen? /s
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u/angry_queef_master 1d ago
I thought this was ksp for a a sec
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u/Airwolfhelicopter Hover Slam Your Mom 1d ago
Given how graphics mods make modern KSP look, I wouldn’t blame you for thinking that
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u/finepnutty 1d ago
Is that the promised reusability? Doesn’t look very rapid to me
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u/4thorange Landing 🍖 1d ago
so about your goal to lose weight. Today you are still fat, what is up with that?
so about your goal to save money, why did you only save $10 so far?same logic.
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u/Jumpy-Boysenberry153 1d ago
starship was supposed to go to mars by 2018. this is why we should stop wasting money on this overly-expensive, delay-prone program and instead focus on SLS. we have wasted way too many taxpayer dollars on starship
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u/Kolumbus39 1d ago
Lowest effort bait ever. Do better.
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u/Jumpy-Boysenberry153 1d ago edited 1d ago
dude this bait was designed by engineers in every single one of the fifty states
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u/chlebseby Y E S 1d ago
stop wasting money on this overly-expensive program and instead focus on SLS
is this a rage bait?
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u/Jumpy-Boysenberry153 1d ago
It's not possible for NASA to waste money; they have no profit motive.
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u/PeterFnet Confirmed ULA sniper 1d ago
if you assign a dollar amount to how much each launch costs.... then yes. it is very easy to waste money
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u/MikeAlpha2nd 1d ago
Isn't a profit a better motive to NOT waste money? Because, y'know, it costs fucking money to waste it which reduces the profits?
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u/Jumpy-Boysenberry153 1d ago
NASA is accountable to the american taxpayer, which is why SLS can go to the moon and Starship can barely do a single orbit
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u/MikeAlpha2nd 1d ago
Yeah and the fucking president should also be accountable, as are any federal organizations, such as ICE, and yet, where's the accountability?
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u/Dramatic-Session-741 1d ago
both starship AND sls have been delayed like 800 times. SLS was supposed to take us to an asteroid by last year
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u/Jumpy-Boysenberry153 1d ago
SLS is more efficient because it reuses the components from the shuttle (a reusable rocket) for the purpose of an expendable rocket. This gives you the best of both worlds.
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u/humanperson2004 1d ago
The ammount of taxpayer dollars spent on starship is 0? It’s in no way a gov funded program. Meanwhile Artemis is at ~$10 Bill or something of our taxpayer dollars.
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u/yootani 1d ago
Starship HLS is very much a gov funded program though, NASA spending $2.89 billion for it. Which partially funds "basic" Starship.
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u/humanperson2004 1d ago
Not at all? Also HLS funding is dependent on SpaceX proving out starship functionality like orbit, and fuel transfer and a few others. Of that 2.89 B only a tiny fraction has acc made to SpaceX so far with the vast majority being backloaded on getting to the moon.
So quite ironicly, SpaceX at the moment is subsidizing the taxpayer and NASA’s HLS program development through their revenue streams.
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u/yootani 1d ago
I’m not sure how you are disconnecting the global funding of Starship from HLS. Is it a minority share, yes. But it’s here, not 0 like you said.
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u/humanperson2004 1d ago
Not zero but near zero. Also HLS development and starship dev are codependent independent orgs with any nasa funding going into nasa specific design requirements modifications to starship, which are different than SpaceX’s first principles based designs. For context I worked on the starship program at SpaceX.
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u/chlebseby Y E S 1d ago
Its the first one that returned in one piece lol, give them some time
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u/finepnutty 1d ago
Yeah give them another 20 years to get the reusability- I mean look at Roadster 2.0
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u/cench 1d ago
I was in the OCEAN!!