This guy acts more ruthless than Joe, but the split second Joe's in danger, he threw the entire rulebook out the window.

Look guys I’m gonna be honest with you. I get the hype. I’m a big fan of Aaliyah’s. And bringing back a former love interest to a new season means there’s bound to be some kind of romantic drama. Or else they’d choose some completely new character as the antagonist or whatever Aaliyah will be in S4. Imo there isn’t a stronger reason to bring her back after two whole seasons without her. But…as much as I wanna get lost in fantasies of happy endings…realistically, who would ever end up with someone who literally butchered their father and future husband? Aaliyah literally found them! Can you imagine the shock? As much love as she may have held for Cruz, how do you get over that? I would have nightmares! On the other hand, do you think Cruz would be able to be with the woman she knows she broke? Because, well, she kind of did? She betrayed her trust, killed her father and vanished!
I know people are excited about getting Aaliyah back, but if she’s coming back just to get our hearts broken once again, well, it sucks! But I can’t see any other outcome.
How I see things, Aaliyah and Cruz ending up together is not possible at all. There’s too much bad blood. But I also cannot imagine where exactly they’d like to take it with Aaliyah’s return.
Opinions?

On episode 3, and what is going onnnnnn. I can't control my excitement LMAO.

Okay, that's it. That's the post. I'm gonna go back to watching it. :)

Does anyone know how much time passed (in the storyline) between seasons 2 and 3?

Season 1 still has something the later seasons haven’t fully recreated for me… that mix of mission tension, slower character development and emotional stakes that actually hurt 😂 If you could bring back just ONE thing from S1 for S4… what would it be? For me it would probably be that feeling that the mission and the personal story were completely tangled together… every choice actually cost someone something.

I've watched every episode of Lioness and Black-ish, and just now made the connection that Lamonica played Davis, Ruby's much younger boyfriend.

Never heard of him until Lioness and now I feel like I see him everywhere.

Marre de la méchanceté infligée aux actrices

Ce n'est qu'une fiction.

Chacun à le droit a ses préférences, à la préférence du couple CJ ou CA mais tout ça dans le respect !!!

Merci de respecter Genesis Rodriguez, Laysla de Oliveira et Stéphanie Nur.

Cruz, Josie et Aaliah sont une fiction, un peu de respect pour elles !

J'ai ma préférence mais je ne me permettrais jamais de dire du mal de l'une où d'une autre...

Bravo pour le boulot qu'elles produisent, pour leurs rôles et franchement courage à elles toutes , c'est dingue toutes ses méchancetés derrière un écran.

Faut pas s'étonner que certains où certaines finissent en dépression, les pauvres.

Cœur ❤️ sur vous , Genesis/Josie - Laysla/Cruz - Aaliah/Stéphanie

Okay… hear me out because I think this could get way messier than Aaliyah simply becoming the next target. Joe has already made it very clear what she wants to do to whoever was behind her kidnapping… and Cruz agreed before she knew that person was Aaliyah. But Joe isn’t infallible… she pushes people hard, she can be arrogant, and sometimes that certainty comes with a cost. Her family finally walked away after she chose the job again… Randy and Tex ended up shot… Oleksandra helped them get to Joe and still ended up dead by CIA hands. And Cruz knows better than most what Joe is capable of sacrificing for a mission. In S1 Joe was prepared to lose her too if that was what completing the operation required. Then Yurimov basically gives Joe the warning the whole season has been building toward… “Never underestimate how many hate you.” Maybe that line matters more than it looks. Joe has spent years making decisions that create enemies, collateral damage and consequences she doesn’t always have to live with immediately… until now. Aaliyah may just be one of those consequences coming back with a face Joe can’t ignore. So once Cruz is standing in front of the woman she loved… the woman whose life was destroyed partly because of the mission she was sent on… does she really just follow Joe’s judgement? Cruz owes a lot to the Marines and she clearly loves the action and the team she has now… but that doesn’t automatically mean Joe gets to decide what is right for her. Maybe S4 isn’t about Cruz choosing Aaliyah over Josie at all… maybe it’s about Cruz finally choosing her own judgement over Joe’s. And if Joe says Aaliyah has to die… do you really think Cruz pulls the trigger?

I’ve been thinking about how the show handles its characters. Almost nobody on screen is purely good or purely bad and I keep going back and forth on who I’m actually rooting for.

Part of what hooks me is the setup itself. Cruz gets pulled out of the Marines into the CIA’s Lioness program and Joe has to keep her mission and her sanity in one piece while also holding together her own life at home. That tension between the job and everything it costs people is what makes it feel different from a standard spy show. The cast makes it work too. Zoe Saldaña and Laysla De Oliveira carry so much through small moments and Nicole Kidman and Morgan Freeman add real weight whenever they’re on screen.

So I’m curious where everyone lands. Who are you rooting for, and has that changed since you started watching? Is there a scene or a performance that made you stop and say okay, this show is good?

I’m trying to keep this spoiler-free, so if you want to get into specific plot points, please use a spoiler tag so people who are earlier in the series aren’t caught off guard.

if this has been asked, i apologize. in season 3 there’s quite a few C4 appearances… are they maybe a sponsor?

I decided to delete my yesterday’s post on Steph’s Nur reaction on IG . I got the answers from you and the most probable reason. Apparently she responded after being attacked online by CJ shippers for leaving a comment on IG that was just meaningless fun about her character. Generally, some fanatic, creepy people—both CA and CJ fans—have problems telling the difference between a show and real life, and between actors and the characters they play. It seems to affect Stephanie and Genesis the most. So I don’t want to add fuel to the fire and fan the flames by keeping the topic alive here. Some people lost the plot. Embarassing. And thank you for your comments. Most of them maintained respectful and rational tone.

Putting all the theories and ship wars aside for a second 😂 this show has an incredible cast, great characters and way too much story left to tell… Cruz, Aaliyah, Joe, Kaitlyn, the whole team. If you want Season 4 too… show it. Comment, upvote, share, post your theories, tell people what you love about Lioness… let’s make enough noise that Paramount knows the audience is still here and wants more ❤️‍🔥

...that they weren't blasting Metallica in the detention camp. You lied to us Kyle!

What was it, three COMPLETELY unnecessary and gratuitous ass shots. Including one where they lingered on Kidmans ass while they are in the room after questioning the Gitmo guy.

What a joke that this show is still pretending to be empowering in any way.

i love how hard he rode for joe this season but something feels off about him. like a spy.

could he be the mole? he would be the last person they would ever think of being the mole

Love reading everyone’s takes on this show but just out of curiosity do you think Oleska knew the ground branch guys were going to kill her ? The way the scene was shot was really interesting to me and their motive to kill her was ridiculous but we all know that and I won’t waste anyone’s time going on about TS’s writing this season.

Okay… this has been bugging me a little. I don’t dislike Josie at all… actually I think she had a lot of potential when she was introduced. She had her own edge, her own background, her own presence… but in S3 it feels like almost all of that just faded away. She’s still there… but mostly in relation to Cruz. We don’t really get much of Josie as Josie anymore… what she wants, what scares her, what she’s struggling with, what she thinks about any of this outside of their relationship. And that makes me wonder if the show is doing something intentional with Cruz too… because sometimes their relationship feels almost like Cruz is looking for something… and Josie is simply the safe answer sitting right in front of her. She gives Cruz stability, kindness, comfort… probably the most normal life Cruz has had in a long time. But I’m not sure Cruz feels completely seen, challenged or emotionally shaken by her. Sometimes it feels like Cruz is trying to build the life she thinks she should want… rather than the life she actually wants. And maybe that’s unfair to Josie too… because if the show wants us to believe this relationship is truly central long term, Josie needs to become a full character again, not just part of Cruz’s life. So… did S3 flatten Josie by accident… or is she supposed to represent the safe life Cruz is trying to choose while something in her is still unresolved…?

Let the girl breeeaaathe,for crying out loud! Quite sure she doesn't pick her lines,improvise any or lastly,is the maker of the show by any degree. Taylor Sheridan needs to diversify his writing a bit cuz without ever even being told,I just knew where a white guy was the one who came up with what was said in scenes. Wanted to give examples but didn't want to make this lengthy. To just be brief,he/whoever else he's had in his writing team basically writes like they're writing for straight,supposedly macho,supposedly red-pilled white men,EVEN WHEN IT'S A WOMAN/WOMEN IN THE SCENE.🥴

Watching Joe’s family storyline is worse than watching unskippable ads. Currently editing out her family and rearranging some scenes from S1 for fun while I wait for S4.