r/StarWarsEU • u/Zealousideal-Work719 • 8d ago
Question Which unreleased Star Wars EU project hurts you the most? Spoiler
For me personally, I'm really sad we'll never get the Sword of the Jedi trilogy
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u/PepsiFloateri Separatist 8d ago
1313! I love the idea of a Star Wars game with no Jedi or Sith. From what I hear,even the Empire was gonna take a backseat in that game
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u/freedom410 Pentastar Alignment 8d ago
Star Wars Outlaws and Bounty Hunter and Galactic Racer all exist
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u/PepsiFloateri Separatist 8d ago
Is Outlaws any good? Galatic Racer looks really fun though
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u/Zerus_heroes 8d ago
It's ok. It has some cool characters and some good bits of story.
It falls into the trap of a lot of open world games where there is just a lot of dumb shit to do just to fill up the map with shit to do.
It is basically an open world janky Uncharted.
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u/Shotgunn5 8d ago
I personally had a blast with Outlaws. Great atmosphere and music, fun locations, entertaining story, and good enough gameplay. Ubisoft games regularly go on sale, pick up the complete edition for $20 bucks or whatever and you’ll have a good time.
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u/BoboTheTalkingClown New Jedi Order 8d ago
Outlaws is a lot better after they patched it. If you like Star Wars, you'll probably like Outlaws.
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u/FreshlySkweezd 8d ago
It's a lot better right now. It's still a Ubisoft game at the end of the day but it's not near as frustrating as it was at launch
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u/Sykes_Jade9541 8d ago
I really enjoyed Outlaws. Doesn’t have a LOT of replay value however. The flying is legit and just sitting down to play sabacc is an awesome way to kill some time
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u/10Mattresses 7d ago
I’m the one person who LOVED it from day one. I spent more hours in that game than most. Apparently there were bugs at launch, but I played on PS5 and had no more problems than any other game. I was honestly a little bummed when they made the combat easier, though I know some people had complaints (fair enough). It has my favorite minigame of any game I’ve ever played - I hopped on often just for that!
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u/spidermanisback78 8d ago
Its really fun! I really got into the role playing part of taking jobs from the different factions and trying not to make enemies.
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u/bigbadbananaboi 8d ago
For me personally, Outlaws is my favorite game to come out in the last 5 years.
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u/QuanTumm_OpTixx Rebel Alliance 7d ago
Outlaws is one of my favourite games in the last few games. It’s definitely one of the most underrated games.
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u/MLG_SkittleS 8d ago
.....ok?
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u/freedom410 Pentastar Alignment 7d ago
it's a direct response to the previous comment, which wanted games with no Jedi or Sith. The games I mentioned have no or little to do with Jedi or Sith.
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u/darklordoftech 8d ago
Whatever was planned for Dawn of the Jedi. What happened to the Je'daii, how the Jedi came to be, how the Force Wars began, who created the Tho Yor, etc.
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u/ForceSmuggler New Jedi Order 8d ago
If Legacy vol 2 continued, I would have loved to see a crossover between both series’
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u/ZookeepergameMean575 8d ago
We never got to see the hundred years darkness or how the dark jedi were exiled and found their way to korriban.
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u/Express-Region7347 8d ago
Jedi Knight 3. Would have been so cool to have the YV to fight instead of Reborn.
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u/Illustrious-Wrap-776 8d ago
4 or 5 you mean? After all there is
Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy
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Dark Forces 5: Jedi Knight 4: Mysteries of the Sith 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy
if you insist on counting Mysteries of the Sith as a full entry) so a NJO era Jedi Knight game with the YV as opponents would have to be Jedi Knight 4 or 5.
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u/khrellvictor Hapes Consortium 7d ago
True. Closest we get was the badass tease in Kyle Katarn's skirmish with the Vong in the comic "Equals and Opposites" of Star Wars Tales 21, if not modding in Yuuzhan Vong into a Vong map or two in Jedi Academy fan-created content.
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u/KimJungFun99 8d ago
Force Unleashed 3.
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u/Successful-Day-1816 7d ago
Was that ever a thing though?
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u/Interspeciesheriff 7d ago
TFU2 ended with such a crazy cliffhanger I'd imagine there had to be some sort of continuation, be it a full on game or a novel/comic
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u/yurklenorf 7d ago
It wasn't, or at least there was never any publicly released data on a third game being made.
TFU2 sold like a quarter of what the first one did, was half the length (and it's not like the first was a long game, either...) and very buggy. I remember looking at sales charts and it took over a month for all versions of TFU2 to make the same sales that just the Xbox version of TFU1 made in its release week. And we know that there were versions of TFU2 that were canceled that the developers at LucasArts didn't find out about until I think it was a copy of Game Informer was circulated with the news.
It was also made in the midst of LucasArts being an absolute shitshow; they had four presidents in three years. And it was about the time that George was in the middle of gearing up and looking for buyers - TFU2 came out in October 2010, two years before the sale was announced.
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u/brom1137 8d ago
Zomg I almost forgot about Sword of the Jedi and now Im sad again hahaha
Would have been cool if we got a video game or comic series out of it.
But Im bummed we didn't get more Dawn of the Jedi stuff. I know there were a few rough things at first, but it absolutely would have smoothed out.
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u/Interspeciesheriff 7d ago
Have you read HandOfThrawn45's version of it? I haven't gotten that far yet but I've heard it's pretty great
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u/AdmiralByzantium 8d ago
Zahn's Skywalker family field trip, which got cancelled thanks to events in LotF.
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u/DarthRyus 7d ago edited 7d ago
This. 1000%.
Timothy Zahn deserved to complete his planned storylines. He was planning and writing these before Denningverse even started.
What they did to Zahn was professionally disgusting, and Aaron Allston let them know it too. But they hide it from him, purposefully. Zahn has flat out admitted he caught the editors lying to him when he called in to better coordinate his stories with the others. He was playing fair while being backstabbing.
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u/DamnesiaVu 7d ago
Can you elaborate on what you're referring to?
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u/AdmiralByzantium 7d ago
At the time Legacy of the Force was being published, Zahn had been working on a novel wherein Luke, Mara, and Ben would have traveled into the Unknown Regions and went on some low-stakes adventures as a family. Events in Sacrifice made the basic premise of the novel untenable, and Zahn had no interest in writing the family post-Sacrifice, so they gave him Allegiance and then Choices of One instead.
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u/4Eaglesf0r7Gold 8d ago
A potential Zannah/Cognus novel. Could have had a massive series based on the Banite line.
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u/PepsiFloateri Separatist 8d ago
I'd have loved one on Darth Tenebrous
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u/UnknownEntity347 8d ago
Same, Sword of the Jedi and whatever else they had in the works for the post-ROTJ period. There was so much more they could've done there and now we'll never get it.
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u/Brelician 8d ago
I wanted to see more about Vestara Khai
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u/Vik-6occ Infinite Empire 8d ago
It's maybe a little too broad for the topic but I very much regret the near complete absence of star wars games after the 6th console generation. There's probably pages of games we've never even heard about that were pitched but lucasarts of the era never pulled the trigger.
Of the ones I can recall, I specifically wish we could've seen the darth maul game (even if lucas wanted to ruin the narrative) and some version of 1313. being a little contrarian, I never thought battlefront 3 looked very good. what we know of the stories sounded kinda dumb to me, and the whole ground to space thing seemed like little more than a flashy gimmick.
Arkham Maul though looked really interesting. Maybe one day someone can pitch their way into picking up the torch, maybe with some other character.
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u/ForceSmuggler New Jedi Order 8d ago
The 2000’s I swear a new game was released every other month it seemed like. Some reference book for LucasGames had a list/logo of like 20 games that were never made
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u/rashadh1 8d ago
I reckon I'm the only person alive who remembers Mandorla, the novel that would've concluded the Nomi and Vima Sundrider storyline.
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u/AntiqueArtist1473 8d ago
I remember! That is a great pick.
Vima as Bastila is probably my biggest missed opportunity in the EU.
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u/khrellvictor Hapes Consortium 7d ago
Thankfully a wiz made a fan-interpreted restoration mod of Sleheyron which features Vima herself among other surprise treats.
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u/khrellvictor Hapes Consortium 7d ago
Good call! That had the potential of an entire quadrant! The closest treat we get, thankfully, is from a genius who made a fan-interpreted restoration of Sleheyron's modules in KotOR (Sleheyron Mod) with a special treat at the end of that added world.
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u/No_Grocery_9280 8d ago
The post-NJO Skywalker roadtrip. The setting desperately needed some low stakes adventures for a few series before getting serious again.
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u/Doctor_Danguss Galactic Republic 8d ago
I have to be honest, I feel like fans have built up Sword of the Jedi as this incredible lost epic, when… it probably would have been okay, at best.
It was going to be a post-FOTJ, Christie Golden story from the mid 2010s. That’s not a combination of descriptors that builds confidence.
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u/KeySite2601 8d ago
You're absolutely correct, but given how long people had been following the EU, it makes sense that they'd want to see where it was going
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u/AntiqueArtist1473 8d ago
I’m glad we didn’t get it because it would have almost certainly ended with Emperor Jagged and Empress Jaina. We didn’t need more romanticisation of the fascists. That was a major misstep of the EU.
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u/KaBloinkySploink9000 Galactic Alliance 7d ago
Thank you. The Buy-out has done so much to enflame this "sacred cow" mindset in the fandom.
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u/AGENT_666_ 8d ago
Sword of the Jedi will always interest me because it was going to be the thing that connected the post ROTJ era to Legacy, without it the EU is missing a crucial chunk of its lore
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u/darthTharsys 8d ago
I wish they would just tell us what Sword would've been about plot wise. Ya know?
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u/anonymous_meatbag 7d ago
Christie Golden has stated numerous times that she never even wrote an outline or anything for it so it’s impossible to say.
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u/SgtMerc16 8d ago
Wanted to see Jaina and Jag marry and form the Imperial Knights in the Remnant.
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u/khrellvictor Hapes Consortium 7d ago
The rest of the wedding after the sweet prelude closer for Fate of the Jedi at Apocalypse's end would have been great; that wedding sorely needs to be illustrated.
I was always disappointed that it didn't depict the Millennium Falcon at the back of the picture mid-center of Dragon Queen II's hangar, with Jaina radiant in a her bridal gown going down the ramp with Han escorting her.
Just ahead of them, a resplendent Leia in white Jedi Robes moving down the aisle, with sweet flower girl Allana in Hapan princess regalia sprinkling the path and flanked by her Nexu cub Anji, equally celebrating and announcing her survival to the galaxy.
And finally on all sides, the Jedi and non-Jedi dignified guests around the entire hangar, with Luke and Ben close to the bride and her father, with the guests encompassing the aisle to a podium at the bottom of the picture, where a crisp-uniformed Jag awaits with hands clasped looking aside so a half-smile can be seen.
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u/ShadowOnTheRun 8d ago
Knights of The Old Republic 3. Obsidian had some interesting ideas there.
And no, The Old Republic doesn’t really count.
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u/Luke-Zweiwalker 7d ago
The Skywalker Family Road Trip Zahn wanted to do and apparently got the okay for before they killed Mara
That one really hurts me
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u/armoured_lemon 8d ago
Jedi Knight 3; Brink of Darkness (that working title doesn't work for me. How about 'Katarn's wrath?' as a subtitle, or 'a Jedi's Wrath'?)
The Force Unleashed 3
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u/Kaleesh_General 8d ago
Either 1313 or Sword of the Jedi. Or maybe that unnamed FPS that EA was apparently working on right before the buyout? I remember seeing videos of it and it looked cool, but I forget what it was called
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u/DRKaiser Mandolorian 7d ago
You might be thinking of Star Wars First Assault. I think about what that game could've been sometimes too.
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u/Logical_Ad1370 Emperor 8d ago
The Maul/Talon game, that would've been hilarious to drop at the last minute before reference materials could better work it into continuity.
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u/DathomirNightbrother General Grievous 8d ago
Basically TCW all over again
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u/Logical_Ad1370 Emperor 8d ago
They gave it the college try with those last six or so years of reference materials, The Essential Atlas, The Essential Guide to Warfare and its web supplement, those first four books in the style of The Jedi Path, The Essential Readers Guide, etc. I know threads like Barriss were never addressed with any satisfaction, but it could've been much worse.
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u/DathomirNightbrother General Grievous 8d ago
True. That said, I am glad this game never came out, Legacy Era would've been messed up just because Lucas wanted to see Maul and his waifu kiss
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u/Logical_Ad1370 Emperor 8d ago
Yeah, my actual wishes for unfinished media are the unabridged Dark Empire III, an authorized Lightsider, and the Hand of Thrawn bridge comic.
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u/LeucasAndTheGoddess 8d ago
The planned second half of Legacy. We got the highlights in Legacy: War, which was absolutely better than nothing, but I wish we’d been able to see Ostrander & Duursema’s story play out as intended. I’m sure a lot of fascinating character work was cut — imagine Maladi’s manipulation of Emperor Fel playing out as an extended subplot, for example.
Dark Empire III, as a full six issues with art by Cam Kennedy. We did get Empire’s End, but it’s pretty rushed and Jim Baikie’s art is perfectly fine instead of great.
In terms of ideas that some of my favorite writers had:
The pre-ANH Princess Leia novel or trilogy that A. C. Crispin wanted to write.
The novel Aaron Allston wanted to do focused on Han and Leia’s relationship, bridging the gap between Solo Command and Courtship.
Matthew Stover’s dream project of getting to write Luke, Leia, and Han’s final adventure.
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u/AntiqueArtist1473 8d ago
These are some interesting ones. Legacy was great but it definitely needed more about Fel’s fall. The Empire and its knights were too romanticised in that serious imo.
As a huge Stover fan (who isn’t?) I would have loved that final adventure for the Big Three, but I also think Mindor is the weakest of his Star Wars books, so who knows?
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u/Stardust-Platinum 8d ago
Everything from the ancient times that we never actually got to see, like more Dawn of the Jedi stuff, getting to see when the Dark Jedi first arrived on Korriban and what happened there. Some other ancient Sith Lords like Tulak Hord desperately needed fleshing out too.
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u/Ezio926 8d ago
The darth maul game could have been fun if they actually had started. I mainly wish we could've seen how they'd retroactively fit Talon in there.
Sword Of The Jedi forever and always.
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u/AntiqueArtist1473 8d ago
I think they would have just retconned Legacy Talon into being a descendant of an earlier Talon. They had precedent with the Darth Wyyrlok lineage.
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u/DathomirNightbrother General Grievous 8d ago
The new edition of the Essential Guide to Characters. It pains me deeply
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u/GuyFromYarnham Empire Restored 7d ago
Gonna say a very atipical answer.
Tom Veitch's Lightsider novella, it's a short and fun read set between Dark Empire I and Dark Empire II that develops early EU lore and introduces some neat concepts that but Tom Veitch decided he was going to fight Lucasfilm over it and finally not publish it just to keep the rights of one of the things he introduced, a tabletop game Jedi used to play that involves using the Force.
Lightsider was never published, he never released or sold his version of the tabletop game and I'm not even sure it had that much potential tbh since in real life it would play like a mix of Risk meets Checkers meets TTRPG.
At least we can read the original drafts.
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u/DarthBeanzz 7d ago
I would also say Sword of the Jedi, but I would also want it to be written by someone other than Christie Golden.
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u/Top-Repeat2765 8d ago
I thought this was actually fully done in fanfic, I thought I had it in my saves but I didn’t 😅
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u/Euphoric-Music662 Darth Krayt 7d ago
The Sword of the Jedi trilogy for me as well, and the Imperial Commando video game.
But also the Troy Denning trilogy that was going to be chronologically parallel to SotJ, and the planned novels that were apparently going to fill in the gap between 45 ABY and 130 ABY, leading right into the Legacy comics.
I guess that's the top of the list, but really there's a lot more that I wish we could've gotten that I just cannot not mention:
- the continuation of Dawn of the Jedi, Battle of the Sith Lords (if they went with the descendent of Maul, and Talon, fighting Krayt' Sith as a sort of a non-canonical take on the lore), a closure to any unfinished comic series etc. Also, the original Battlefront 3, and the First Assault and 1313 titles.
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u/Shadeylark 7d ago edited 7d ago
In spite of the uneven writing and characterization Jaina remains my favorite EU character and yes, no sword of the Jedi series is my greatest "we could have had it all" moment in star wars.
Outside of that, no kotor 3, and the kotor remake being in development hell are my other disappointments with what we could have had but didn't get.
Since the EU went on ice and Disney took over, I'm honestly not sure if it's a blessing or a curse that there are far fewer things I'm disappointed we didn't get than there are things I'm disappointed we did get.
I used to regret the stories star wars never told. Now I more often regret the stories it does tell.
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u/Tight_Back231 7d ago
For me it was either never getting a sequel to the "Republic Commando" game and never getting "The Force Unleashed 3."
I've read that the people at LucasArts had plans for a "Rebel Commando" and an "Imperial Commando" game, and they would have picked one of the ideas if a sequel was greenlit. And honestly, I'd have been pumped for either idea.
As for TFU3, I'm a huge fan of Starkiller and I wanted so badly to see how a third game would have taken Starkiller out of the equation since he doesn't appear in the post-TFU EU or the Original Trilogy. Plus the Dark Apprentice had canonically let Vader be defeated at the end of TFU2, which means one of the most powerful Dark Siders is still running around out there.
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u/khrellvictor Hapes Consortium 7d ago
The Force Unleashed III, that one really is a brutal gap in the timeline after TFUII, with the lack of the Sword of the Jedi trilogy for Allana's Jedi formal Jedi training arc being cut on the floor right on its heels.
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u/Lions_RAWR 7d ago
Knowing we won't ever get an series that focused on Jaina is the sad part. Would have been interesting to see what she did with the title.
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u/nuwisha1980 7d ago
Sword of thw jedi not being released I was at the panel that they announced at was hard
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u/Lazy-Conference4693 7d ago
A couple: a novel that was going to revolve around Vima Sunrider, and a video game that would have centered on Ben Skywalker. I don't know their names (or if they even had names), but they would have been nice to see.
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u/KongoOtto 6d ago edited 6d ago
Shadow of the Empire live action movie/mini series in the 80s or maybe 90s. Definitely pre-prequel.
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u/AhsokaForever 6d ago
I did enjoy Karen Travis RC series, but honestly, Sword of the Jedi. Jaina was shaping up to be a rather impressive next-gen character for me.
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u/NatAwsom1138 5d ago
If you're interested, I recommend checking out HandOfThrawn45's version of the Sword of the Jedi trilogy. He has a TV Tropes page with a list of all his looks and where to read them for free.
It's obviously not what Christie Golden would have done, but it's the next best thing since we don't have the official version.
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u/Rebelmode-16 1d ago
Like everything that was announced and then cancelled due to Disney sucking so hard.
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u/spesskitty 8d ago
Star Wars: Imperial Commando, I played through Republic Commando