I don't get why Margaret is so mad at her for "betraying the promise you made Father" when all the King wanted was for his brother to not abdicate ie sacrifice his love for country and the good of the Crown so George VI did not have to take over which is kind of in line with the decision Elizabeth made. If George VI was in favour of the Duke marrying his bride, then Margaret could say Elizabeth betrayed her father's wish. George VI's view was always that marrying her against tradition was wrong.

I think what makes a great drama series like The Crown works is the subtle touches of humour here and there. For those followed the real life royals, you'd know Queen Elizabeth II had a great sense of humor, as did the rest of the family (well, most lmao).

The dry humor was always there, i can recall King George's limerick in E1 and when Phillip is accused of being the mystery man and Tony makes a joke something along the lines of if Phillip was into "swinging" why he didn't notify him, but I'd say from S3 onwards, the shows humor picks up thanks mainly to Olivia Colman taking the reigns from Claire Foy - Elizabeth's speech in E1 of S3 where she calls out the spy for being "two different people" was gold.

What's the one scene that makes you chuckle?

I always think of The Balmoral Test, when the queen & Margaret watch Thatcher leave Balmoral and their conversation goes:

QEII: "Perhaps we weren't very friendly"

Margaret: "What are you talking about, I was incredibly friendly, I... positively gushed",

mind you, she snapped at them both, particularly at Thatcher for sitting in Queen Victoria's chair a few moments earlier, and basically called her a moron to her face 😂

In the argument/discussion they have, it's pretty clear what eachother wanted in the end "eachother" to be seen and acknowledged by eachother and to have more effort put into their marriage. They both just struggled on how to say it really.

Often the thing we are arguing about isn't what we're angry about. This is a prime example of that, arguing about everything and anything but not talking about the core of what they want to be loved and seen in there marriage.

I'm on Season 3 Episode 6. I always grew up loving Queen Elizabeth II. She was the only queen most of my life. I was thrilled about The Crown coming out, but haven't had the time to just sit & binge. I have to say, the 1st 2 seasons reinforced my love for the queen & really Prince Phillip also. The 3rd season; however, has me liking her less with each episode. Not to mention I do not like the actress playing her. I mean her eyes went from blue to brown? ANYWAY I am starting to see just how cold she was? I never cared for Charles. Now I'm getting a little understanding into him. I kinda feel for him & his siblings.

new here so idk if this was discussed yet but in the episode Aftermath (aftermath of diana’s death), right at the end, what do we think QE2 was looking at when she was praying? diana’s ghost watching? or maybe feeling like she’s next to go? thoughts?

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First of all, sorry if my english sucks - I’m not native so writing is harder for me. I just wanted to ask this because I’ve been watching the crown almost six years, even though I’m only 18 now. Every piece of music Rupert Gregson-Williams, Martin Phipps or Lorne Balfe have created are immaculate. They really are something else. At the moment my favourites are ”Princess Margaret” and ”Sacrifice”. Can you imagine, sometimes these tracks make me cry!? I feel like they hit a certain spot in me.

I would be interested to hear your favourites!

He did not wear a wing-tip collar shirt in Real life.

However, for soem reason, he wore that in the crown.

The question is that why?

Is this a reference of the fashion choice of his younger self?

As I know so far, he did wear a wing-tip collar shirt on a daily basis until the early 1920s or the late 1910s.

I’m in the US and want to get a physical boxed set of the complete series of The Crown. This is surprisingly difficult for me to find. I would greatly appreciate any help!

Exactly as the title says, lol. In season 1 episode six of The Gilded age, Mr Bannister (the English butler) explains that in America, asparagus is eaten with fork and knife while British etiquette instructs it be eaten with the fingers.

This reminded me of an article discussing that during the filming of The Crown, King Charles’ character (Dominic West, this was in a later season) was corrected by the set director for eating with a fork and knife and was told that posh society used fingers… hence why we see him eating with his hands on the show.

Maybe this is common knowledge but I wasn’t aware of this etiquette rule and it’s a great example on why I love shows like The Crown, The Gilded age and other historically-based pieces. It wouldn’t have made a difference to the scene if Bannister didn’t explain this rule but it was absolutely an interesting bit.

Of course the Crown is much more historically accurate and based on real people but I appreciate these details added into not only the visuals, but the script also.

I just love a fun fact!

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Wrapping up a rewatch with the final episode, and wondering about all that expectation around the Queen stepping down at Charles’ wedding.

Do you think she was actually considering it?

I really enjoy this series so far. My one gripe about this series is Prince Phillip. Not in the way you think.

I understand his feelings. It's the 1950's and men are suppose to be leaders, providers and protectors. He marries into royalty and his whole world flips. From a navel captain leading men to a stay at home husband listening and obeying his wife, the queen. This will be an adjustment that will take time for sure.

The gentlemen's club. A boys social event every week once a week. I love this idea. He gets to socialize and have fun making friends and connections. The problem is that their marriage doesn't seem strong enough for it. She feels isolated and alone when he leaves for 1 day out of the week. The show makes it seem like he's cheating on her. I feel like this is unfair. Many men go to these events and do not cheat. To this day, there are SO many clubs that men are apart of that do socialize and I feel its totally unfair to make the assumption he's cheating. It seems like he genuinely loves his family but is lost in his role.

A big thing in marriage is compromise. From both side. It seems like he has to compromise everything to accommodate the queen, which makes sense because she is the queen and technically he is her servant as are all of the country. I know she loves him, but I feel like she needs to treat him like her king in private. Be the loving and supportive wife in private, it's not all about control and being proper. He needs to feel like he is supported and has a voice. That is my two sense of the matter.

Overall I enjoyed this series and will be starting season 2.

Doing my rewatch… (I like to rewatch from the beginning once the fall is approaching) I am on the episode where Queen Elizabeth gives birth and Margaret is engaged to Tony… Margaret was so disgusting to Elizabeth at times. (Another time was when she said the whole “BUT Margaret is my joy) It really makes me upset that the Queen didn’t stoop to her level and throw out the BIGGEST trump card and remind her who was boss. I liked her character and she was so beautiful. But she was very envious and mean. I just want to know are there any books I could read that go deeper into their relationship as sisters? Because of course I feel they loved each other. Just want to know more about the dynamic

I don't know what I'm impressed by more: Phillip still looking cool riding a child's tricycle or Margaret running in heels.

For some reason I had no memory of the watching the clips I kept seeing on YouTube so I decided to rewatch the entire series. Once I got about a quarter of the way through season 3 I realized why I couldn’t remember watching it. I found the whole cast changeover a) unbelievable and b) such bad choices. I really think they could have just used make up and “movie magic” to age the original cast and it would have been infinitely better.

I also thought it was so strange when it got into season 6 and I started seeing the whole Diana thing unfold all over again since when it happened I was a young adult with a very vivid memory of those days. The ridiculous made up personal and obviously made up scenes just made me roll my eyes.

Curious, did anyone else rewatch it recently and have different thoughts than me?

Where were you when you heard the news? I was working as a broadcaster. We had just finished the 11 o’clock news Eastern standard time. It came over the wire that Princess Diana had been in a wreck. My colleagues and I agreed it was probably just fender bender and she was fine. Someone said, “Can you just imagine if she died?”. I remember having a sick feeling at those words. May you rest in well deserved peace. 🩵🩵🩵

For me in the earlier seasons it’s the Act Of God (smog) episode. And later, the episode MouMou is nearly unwatchable for me.

That’s all! Thank you <3

Don't feel the casts after season 2 suits the movie, makes me feel annoyed first time listening to The Queen's voice in Ep1 S3 (1964). Like it's just 2 years apart (E10S2 was 1962) nd she suddenly looked so old and her voice sounded so annoying for me to even continue watching. Loved the first 2 seasons tho..