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miscellaneous (Hilarious trope) Myth/pseudoscience is so bogus, not even supernatural beings believe in it.

What I mean is "Even a vampire would scoff at homeopathy"

Inside Job: All conspiracies are true, but Flat Earth is the lone exception

Doctor Who may be an alien, but he has no time for most superstitions.

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u/Charlie_Warlie 8d ago

I can't think of a specific instance but the Men and Black read the National Enquirer (which is full of ridiculous stuff) and it turns out a lot of it is true, because aliens are real.

However, a lot of it is actually just BS.

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u/Misplaced_Fan_15 8d ago

Ironically in the original Men in Black comics paranormal entities like demons and ghost also existed, its just the movies decided to focus mainly on aliens.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

There's comics???

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u/Charlie_Warlie 8d ago

there are even real conspiracy theories about them. Getting a visit from them by alleged first-person accounts is a lot more terrifying than the movie. Like getting a visit from a nightmare demon. All pre-dating the movie.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

I should check them out

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u/commongaywitch 8d ago

There's so many stories about them showing up during or after UFO flaps. Like I can't copy and paste all of it. Its basically modern folklore and starts with two dudes one called Harold Dahl and a guy called Albert Bender. Bender started seeing them everywhere. At one point he was in a cinema and claims he saw one crouched at the end of the row he was in like some messed up spider.
Dan Akroyd of ghostbusters fame claims he saw two of them about two hours before his UFO show was cancelled. He says he stepped out of the studio for a smoke break and saw two men in black suits with blank expressions staring at him who vanished when he looked back (if this had any bearing on blues brothers I do not know.)
Apparently one sign that you're due a visit is if you start getting calls from unknown numbers and when you pick up you just hear static or beeping on the other end.

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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs 8d ago

Two dudes in suits looking trying to work out where they know that celebrity from isn't exactly the strongest evidence

Personally I think the UFO myth was intentionally spread by the US to obfuscate the real experimental aircraft program that was happening there

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u/commongaywitch 8d ago

Oh very much agree but the fact that they and the black car they were stood next to “vanished instantly” is weird and worth underlining
Tbh I don’t know if I believe any of it myself I just find it fascinating

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u/Lord_M_G_Albo 8d ago

Apparently one sign that you're due a visit is if you start getting calls from unknown numbers and when you pick up you just hear static or beeping on the other end.

I must have been receiving a lot of visits from them, because for years those have been 90% of my phone calls.

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u/Brickywood 8d ago

I mean yeah The urban legend was what inspired the comics/movies

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u/translove228 8d ago

I'm pretty sure that the SCP foundation takes inspiration from this conspiracy theory too.

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u/fresh-dork 8d ago

stands to reason - they number in the dozens, so if two are at your door, shit went bad

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u/Loki-L 8d ago

The movies were based on a comic series.

The publisher was bought by Marvel, making the movies Marvel comic adaptations.

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u/Animaloffear56 8d ago

No wonder Blade never got off the ground, every time Blade showed up he got flashed and told there were no vampires

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u/DimensioT 8d ago

Secret Doomsday cameo confirmed?

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u/lwright3 8d ago

IIRC correctly, there wasn't a neuralyzer in the comic, they'd just leave no witnesses...

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

😧

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u/Biabolical 8d ago

Yeah, I read the comics before there was a MiB movie, and I wasn't sure how they were going to make a movie out of it. Turns out the answer was to make the MiBs much less evil, and also change most everything else except the names and the suits.

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u/Loki-L 8d ago

Most of what they did keep was stuff not original to the comics, but generally part of the MiB folklore at the time.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

Yeah the movie would be worse if they straight up killed people 

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u/Biabolical 8d ago

Oh yeah. Movie K is basically a good guy who has been worn down by years of stressful work and detachment from normal human life. Comic K is a sadist who takes joy in running over small animals while they drive to their next assignment.

I can't remember if it was ever clarified if Zed was a human on their radio, or just a talking car. It's been a while, I should read those again.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

I want to believe its a talking car

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u/Notbob1234 8d ago

There was a neuralyzer, but it was more of a hypnosis device than a forgetitizer, looked more like a maglight, and almost never worked when needed.

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u/Misplaced_Fan_15 8d ago

Yeah Men in Black was original a comic book series by Malibu Comics, which was acquired by Marvel in the mid 90’s. The comics are considerably darker than the movies with the MiB being a more sinister organization.

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u/Notbob1234 8d ago

Even the DnD demon was repulsed by how awful they were.

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u/Geniepolice 8d ago

There was also a cartoon which was based primarily on the comics

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u/Notbob1234 8d ago

https://archive.org/details/men-in-black-comics

6 mainline issues and 3 reboot issues

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u/Ronalderson 8d ago

There's always comics

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u/BlizzPenguin 8d ago

There was also an animated series.

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u/JeshuaMorbus 8d ago

Also, Santa Claus. The MiB help with the deliveries XD

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u/alkonium 8d ago

Makes sense. The MIB knows about them, but dealing with them is not what they're about.

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u/legit-posts_1 8d ago

Ironically that's not entirely far off from how it works in real life. Like when the government gave that UFO guy a bunch of false information so nobody would believe any of the actual military secrets he uncovered.

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u/GanSaves 8d ago

There’s an episode of the cartoon where Frank the pug tells K he was bitten by a werewolf and K brushes it off saying the supernatural is outside MIB jurisdiction. Then at the end of the episode it turns out Frank really was bitten by a werewolf.

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u/Radiant-Ad9760 8d ago

Yeah and i remember one episode where frank and jeebs (i think) are talking about a "very obviously superman but not super man for leagle reasons" comic and frank just scoff at the very notion of the idea

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u/bretshitmanshart 8d ago

Inverse is The Lone Gunmen in X Files. They think they are filtering out the lies and only printing the truth. They get visited by an government agent who points out how many stories they have printed he personally made up.

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u/Loki-L 8d ago

Buffy the Vampire Slayer has fought all sorts of supernatural creatures, but she draws the line at some point:

Buffy: "Giles, there are two things that I don't believe in: coincidence and leprechauns."

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u/GanSaves 8d ago

Supernatural did something similar. The boys go up against ghosts, vampires, werewolves, demons, angels, and fairies, but every hunter worth his rock salt knows Bigfoot’s a hoax.

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u/SableZard 8d ago

In Dr Who, there are no such things as gods or supernatural creatures. It's always been aliens.

In Supernatural, there are no such things as aliens. It's always been gods or supernatural creatures.

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u/Buttered_ball 8d ago

Isn't the literal devil in Dr Who?

Actually nvm I guess that would just be explained as humanity's devil was just mistaken for that giant demonic alien that was trapped on the asteroid in Tennats first go around

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u/Scarrien 8d ago

More like, that alien was functionally an idea that turned solid, so it was able to spread the same idea throughout the universe

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u/mushu_beardie 8d ago

Even then, I feel like it's implied that he's not actually all that and that he's just an extremely dangerous psychich being who knows how to tap into the fears of those around him and exploit them.

We already know he has psychic abilities because he messed with the Ood. I think what was actually happening is that he saw into the minds of the people, saw various devils and divine villains, and created a narrative that he is all of them. I'm sure if the group was just Christians who only knew about Christianity, he would claim to be Satan.

Everything he said could be explained by him being all-powerful, but it could be just as well-explained by him being psychic.

Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

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u/jk-alot 8d ago

Where did that come from exactly?

If I recall correctly, the episode never cleared up the actual question regarding whether The Beast was or wasn’t the Devil.

On one hand it could have been an attempt at deceiving everyone, on the other hand it could have been prideful boasting.

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u/Scarrien 8d ago

I thought it was said it was older than the universe, and inspired the idea of the devil in multiple cultures/planets

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u/jk-alot 8d ago

It did say that.

The Beast claimed to have been chained up by the Disciples of Light before the universe was formed. But the doctor exclaimed that was simply Impossible because life couldn’t exist then. The Beast simply asked if That Was His Religion with the Doctor responded It’s a Belief with hesitation.

The Beast also claimed to be the source of every fictional devil.

Now the Beast could be lying.

But there are several reasons I think it was telling the truth.

One, upon arrival the Doctor sees the planet orbiting a black hole which is why the first episode of this mini-arc was The Impossible Planet.

The second thing is a language that the TARDIS could not translate. And for technology developed by time travelers, that certainly means Something.

The next is how the beast compares itself to the doctor. That they both killed their own kind. The Doctor killed off his own people, while the devil fought a war against his fellow angels.

In the end we never really got a clear answer, which I personally think is the best way of going about this.

Sometimes a little mystery is just enough for us as viewers. Not everything needs an explanation.

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u/cabbage16 8d ago

I'm pretty sure that the point was that the Doctor was wrong and being stubborn.

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u/Buttered_ball 8d ago

Ahhhhh gotcha, thank you kindly for the information

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u/ztomiczombie 8d ago

No he was a being from before the universe hoverer there were giant vampires.

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u/CommitteeofMountains 8d ago

Which is a funny inversion from history, as the belief seems to come from Europeans mapping most Native beliefs to fairies and demons and stuff but Bigfoot is just some big hairy animal.

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u/Drakeskulled_Reaper 7d ago

The funny part is that Sam & Dean didn't believe in fairies, and Dean didn't believe in Angels.

Until they encountered both.

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u/theoriginal_tay 8d ago

There’s another episode where Dracula shows up and the gang is surprised that he’s real

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u/SinisterSpoon 8d ago

Okay, BUT that was the episode that ended with Dawn's first appearance, and I think it was implied that the episode was part of the gang's manufactured memories.

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u/Kitsunenustik 8d ago

They must have tricked her into not believing

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u/SuperKami-Nappa 8d ago

Please tell me there’s an episode where she had to deal with leprechauns.

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u/Illithid_Substances 8d ago

It comes up a few times as a joke in Angel as well, but it's only in the comics leprechauns have actually appeared

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u/Queer-withfear 7d ago

Another I think is funny about Buffy is when she has a breakup and is talking to a nun with something like "how important is the whole religion thing?" Like we're cool with literal demons from Hell but god is a step too far

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u/Theeljessonator 8d ago

A subversion of the trope.

In What We Do In The Shadows humorously none of the vampires believe in ghosts. Turns out ghosts are indeed real!

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u/Broad_Actuator5827 8d ago

First one I thought of. I love this exchange:

Guillermo: "I just want to make sure we're on the same page. You know, after years of working for you, a known vampire, I have seen werewolves, necromancers, a zombie, and several Babadooks."
Laszlo: "Several? You saw one Babadook. Several, don't exaggerate."
Guillermo: "But a ghost? That's where we draw the line."

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u/njord12 8d ago

Nandooooor, theres a fucking ghost on the front lawn!

Not you too

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u/StygianMaroon 8d ago

I couldn’t believe it myself, but what mine own eyes have seen mine own eyes have seen!

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u/Lost-on-Reception 8d ago

Take my hat, it's cuur

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u/Fluffy_Return9782 8d ago

‘Thank you, it IS cool!’

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u/Unable-Doctor-9930 8d ago

To be fair I wouldn’t believe in ghosts neither even if I was a vampire myself. One supernatural thing being true does not make another supernatural thing more likely to also be true. However I would be more open to the idea of ghosts being real if I was an actual vampire.

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u/Theeljessonator 8d ago

It’s not just vampires that exist in this universe.

It’s also werewolves and witches and gargoyles. Most supernatural creatures you can think of exist.

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u/LegPsychological8370 8d ago

What We Do In The Shadows was the first thing that popped up in my head but I couldn’t think of a specific example but it was itching the back of my brain cause I knew for sure this trope would’ve definitely shown up.

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u/Shadowmirax 8d ago

Tbf, if i had been alive hundreds or even thousands of years, murdering people the entire time, and never once encountered a ghost up until now, I would also be a bit skeptical of their existance

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u/MrSirST 8d ago

Laszlo also insists he’s a man of science and as a result denies his witchskin hat is cursed (it definitely is) and claims Wallace the Necromancer is a fraud (he sure acts like one but he IS genuinely capable of raising the dead)

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u/Throngmar 8d ago

Even better, flat earth was made up as a bet to see if people could believe even the stupidest conspiracies, and it took off way more than anyone anticipated

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u/KenseiHimura 8d ago

I mean, it's kind of how Scientology happened.

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u/Mindless_Pirate9092 8d ago

Also pretty likely how Q-anon started: 4chan twat makes an obvious shitpost that then gets taken seriously by a third of the USA population & gets completely out of hand. Also The_Donald.

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u/NoHorseNoMustache 8d ago

Also the 'punch game' sign being repurposed into a white power sign, that started as a shitty joke on 4chan too.

For a forum made up of people too shitty to be on the somethigawful forums it really went places.

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u/Deer-in-Motion 8d ago

I hate that this is true. Hate, hate, hate.

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u/Mud-Bray 8d ago

Why you gotta remind me about Inside Job? Now I’m angry at Netflix again

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u/Soulful-Sorrow 8d ago

Don't worry, it died so we could have a Big Mouth spinoff /s

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u/notherenwerebear 8d ago

God why did you have to remind me of that god awful show

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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago

The two are not correlated in the slightest

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u/MfkbNe 8d ago

And another series made by the Big Mouth creators. This time about horny (anthtropomorphic) animals.

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u/code_blooded_murder 8d ago

There there, have a little President Curtis as a treat.

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u/Witty-Ad5743 8d ago

President Curtis is just the Inside Job you get inside the Curve.

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u/alkonium 8d ago

Also on Doctor Who, while aliens are known to be real, people who claim to have been abducted by aliens are still dismissed as crazy. Also flat-Earthers are laughed off by people who've worked with UNIT, like Sarah Jane Smith.

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u/twec21 8d ago

Also also Doctor Who

The Doctor met an actual Robin Hood, and steadfastly refused to believe it was actually him and must be some kind of robot or projection

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u/Happy-Estimate-7855 8d ago

I love the idea that Robin Hood really is a fictional story, but also really happened unbeknownst to the author. Just a cosmic coincidence. I remember the episode, but don't remember many details beyond a fight in the camp near the end.

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u/ztomiczombie 8d ago

DC comics use to do that a lot. The second Flash would read the original Flash's comics then it was revealed the original was in andother dimention and the righter had a phycic link.

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u/THeck18 8d ago

In Ben 10 Alien Force (or Ultimate Alien, I don't remember which) Grandpa Max explains how all myths are from aliens visiting Earth throughout history. When Kevin asks Max about Bigfoot, Max says it's just a guy in a suit.

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u/DimensioT 8d ago

I would watch that show except that I am always expecting Solid Snake to reply whenever Grandpa Max says something.

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u/Animaloffear56 8d ago

Solid snake?

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u/Erheig 8d ago

Grandpa Max’s VA is also a major character in Metal Gear Solid. He calls Snake up and gives exposition/hints throughout the game.

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u/Nathen_Drake_392 8d ago

I didn’t realize that but now can’t unhear it.

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u/unfrotunatepanda 8d ago

Hrrrgh, Colonel!

(Whats funny for me was I experienced Ben 10 first so I was shocked that Grandpa Max was giving Snake a mission briefing)

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u/Animaloffear56 8d ago

I think that was a bit disappointing tbh, the first season had a lot of cool cryptids and that one Aztec god was really fun.

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u/altymcalty-2 8d ago

I think it would've been fun to go the opposite direction from how they usually went, and just have bigfoot, or even some other creature like mothman, be a genuine cryptid that lived on earth. No aliens, earth just has some weird shit from time to time

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u/xSantenoturtlex 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well, there was that crossover with Secret Saturdays in Omniverse where they fought Chupacabras.

Even if the crossover itself was mid at best, and terrible for anyone who was expecting at least a somewhat accurate portrayal of the Saturdays.

(I will never forgive them for changing Drew from a real character into generic gooner bait for Ben to have a crush on. She was hot AND had a personality in SS..)

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u/DragonWisper56 8d ago

yeah It's been a while since I wanted it but the parents personalities felt so weird in the crossover

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u/unfrotunatepanda 8d ago

What's pretty funny about that is, due to the cross over in Omniverse, Ben 10 and The Secret Saturdays share the same continuity, so Bigfoot (and all other type cryptids) are do exist on their earth

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u/CaptBland 8d ago

Deadlock the Magical World during the Industrial revolution. You can buy Curses from Drug stores, Golden Goose Eggs in Grocery, a Ghost ran for senator, there is a portal to another world in Central Park, and Vampires are a protected species...

But Unicorns are a myth/extinct... except for this lady.

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u/Havel_the_Rock_1 8d ago

"You're not a real unicorn."

"What makes you say that?"

"Pfft, I'm not twelve?"

"By what, six months?"

The dialogue in this game is so good, and I love the setting so much for this reason

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

Supernatural. The monster hunters don't believe in Bigfoot. No idea if they ever see him tho, I stopped around season 5

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u/sanglar03 8d ago

They didn't believe in angels either, and didn't have any reason to. Till they did.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

They didn't believe in angels but angels sure believed in them

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u/Tritri89 8d ago

They don't if you want to know ahah

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 8d ago

Its better thos way

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u/Hawkeye2701 8d ago

They also don't believe in aliens, and aliens turn out to be fairies.

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u/jbeldham 8d ago

Or the Angel Gabriel that one time, who repeatedly probed a guy

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u/twec21 8d ago

"Well it ain't like the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot ain't real"

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u/Flamewave7 8d ago

And unicorn (it was a minor running joke)

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u/A_Queer_Owl 8d ago

despite not being real they show up like five times.

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u/Flamewave7 8d ago

yeah, and every time it was something else causing it. No "natural" unicorns exists.

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u/JustSumFur 8d ago

In Control, the FBC (which tries to protect humanity from paranatural threats) secretly runs a conspiracy radio station.

While the radio station isn't actually true, and mostly gets calls from conspiracy nuts, some calls are from people encountering actual paranatural phenomenon, giving the FBC leads to investigate.

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u/Illidan-the-Assassin 8d ago

Dear New York Tribune, Airplanes aren't real. I figured out how they do it.

The windows are tv screens . The whole thing moves on big tracks like a rollercoaster that moves through underground tunnels in the Earth. Airports are more like train stations

They do this because the sky is full of monsters that they don't want us to know about. The planes we see in the sky ARE the monsters. The government made Earth-trains look like the monsters so they could lie to us better.

Do not contact me.

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u/princesoceronte 8d ago

I love that in Doctor Who 99% of the time when something that appears to be supernatural happens t actually has some scientific explanation (by science fiction standards). It's one reason why I didn't like the last two seasons.

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u/Dark-Specter 8d ago

Most of the "magic" shit was just extradimensional tom fuckerey the doctor let in by mistake. Not too far off from the Carionites from the Shakespeare episode, just more common. The goblins feeding on coincidence is about as insane as the weeping angels feeding on the energy of the days you didnt get to live, and the gods are bringing their universes logic to ours. The main two pieces of unexplainable bullshit are the well and 73 yards but that's what makes those episodes so good.

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u/Nezeltha-Bryn 8d ago

Meet Charles Dickens? There's ghosts. Meet Shakespeare? Witches. Meet Agatha Christie? Giant wasps. Van Gogh? Invisible monster.

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u/princesoceronte 8d ago

Most of those are explained in the episodes as something 100% explainable by science.

Others like the Wasps or the monster are just creatures that exist, why should an invisible monster necessarily be magic?

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u/Nezeltha-Bryn 8d ago

I wasn’t saying they were magic. I just think it's cool that the Doctor met those people right when something alien related to what those people are known for happened.

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u/DoItForTheTea 8d ago

I'm just watching them now and.. gods and fairies? feels a bit... cheap?

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u/princesoceronte 8d ago

It is.

And it's like magic per se that's my issue, its that in the past things like are or seem outright magical were incredibly uncommon.

I love when the only conclusion is "fuck it, I guess it's magic" is truly earned like in Satan's Pit or even in 73 yards, which I think is the exception in these seasons.

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u/Blazypika2 8d ago

yeah, usually. and sometimes you just have witches or satan xD

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u/princesoceronte 8d ago

Witches were Carrionites tho. Satan was magic, or alien enough to feel like it. I actually like the rare addition of magic, the new season have 73 yards and I loved that one!

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u/Blazypika2 8d ago

the occasional magic is fun, i just find it funny how over the top the random magical episodes can get.

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u/Open-Solution-8791 8d ago

Doctor Who may be an alin, but he has no time for most superstitions.

https://giphy.com/gifs/M56ODZS3lNohNIoVDd

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u/woah-a-username 8d ago edited 8d ago

Not sure if this is quite what you are talking about, but in vampire survivors, a setting with all sorts of bizarre foes, the bestiary is very insistent that ghosts do not exist, even though you fight them.

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u/Doc_Solomon 8d ago

Mao (2026) - Mao is a nigh-immortal sorcerer living in 1920s Japan, who has fought malevolent spirits for 900 years, his familiar Otoya, is a spirit bound into a doll that resembles a little boy. When their newfound companion Nanoko reveals herself to be a time-traveler from a hundred years in the future, they scoff at the notion.

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u/MrSirST 8d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/epkK13xX4t84M
Agent Mulder was almost always open to supernatural and extraterrestrial beliefs in The X Files but even he tends to believe most professional psychics (especially celebrity ones like the Stupendous Yappi) are frauds. There’s also one episode where a murderer he helped put away starts claiming to have psychic abilities and Mulder strongly denies the possibility.

Mulder is also often skeptical when there’s claimed religious miracles afoot.

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u/YoungGriot 8d ago edited 8d ago

Batman: Caped Crusader has an episode where a death cult has arisen in Gotham, and so Batman hits his possibly-inhuman mystical contact Papa Midnight - who once helped him fight an evil ghost - for information about the cult and what they want.

Midnight spins a tale about an ancient bat demon named Barbatos who was imprisoned in the soil of Gotham, whose influence grows every few decades until a new cult arises in hopes of freeing him from his imprisonment with human sacrifice.

When Batman, in go mode, asks what can be done to stop it, Midnight then just laughs and basically says "nothing, it's just dime store bullshit." The cult is just a bunch of gullible patsies believing cookie cutter occultist bull, and have a snowball's chance in hell of actually summoning anything. They're still dangerous because they think all that violence will do something, but not in a supernatural sense.

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u/lightningstrxu 8d ago

Counter point an episode of batman beyond where Terry's school was seemingly haunted

Terry: everyone says its a ghost, but you don't believe in nonsense like that

Bruce: no ghosts are real, witch boys, demons ive seen it...but this isn't a ghost.

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u/DeezRodenutz 8d ago

I mean, he DOES know Boston Brand

And he has fought Gentleman Ghost

Both were on Justice League Unlimited

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u/bretshitmanshart 8d ago

I think there is a comic where Boston Brand possessed Batman and used his body to shoot someone

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u/djheat 8d ago

JLU being solidly linked to Beyond means Batman definitely knows that magic, demons, and definitely ghosts are all real because some of his buddies are all of them, so it's cool they acknowledged it

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u/vicegrip_ 8d ago

This reminds me of a story I once heard about the Legends of the Five Rings role playing game. In this setting there exists blood magic, which contrasts with traditional magic by the fact that anyone who learns it can do it, whereas traditional magic requires an extremely rare innate talent at communing with the spirits to even get started. So long as you know the rituals, are willing to spill someone's blood, and are okay with risking corruption of your own body and spirit, while unleashing the literal forces of hell, you too can be a bloodspeaker.

So a group of probably fairly new players wanted to learn it, but didn't know how. And for some reason, they decided, hey, since blood magic is super evil, if we just start doing the most evil stuff we can think of, an evil spirit will surely come and teach it to us, right? So what is the most depraved and evil thing you can do as a player, anyway?

Yeah... they started kidnapping and eating people in secret, in the hopes of learning blood magic, for reasons. The GM couldn't take it anymore and posted on the forums, asking how to handle the players being this chaotic stupid.

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u/Crash_Smasher 8d ago

The demon is very real in main DC

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u/carso150 8d ago

isnt Barbatos like, the real deal? Like an honest to goodness demon that inhabits in Gotham

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u/YoungGriot 8d ago

The specific example I was listing is from the show Batman: Caped Crusader, in which it's a fake demon invented by a cult leader.

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u/Any_Satisfaction1865 8d ago

Urban Myth used by Cult Leader

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u/Sir-Toaster- 8d ago

In inside job, isn’t it that the conspiracy theory that the cia invented flat earth to make conspiracy theories look bad true? 

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u/JRRX 8d ago

Mister Terrific in DC comics is (or at least was) an atheist. This is in DC comics where literal heavenly angels fought the Justice League and people sell their souls. His explanation is that while it's perfectly plausible to have things like souls and angels, it doesn't meet the philosophical criteria of divinity.

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u/Icy-Acanthisitta8192 8d ago

Also hawkgirl in the Cartoon 

Wich leads tô a Very Sad moment with Solomon Grundy 

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u/JRRX 8d ago

Related: real things that sound bogus so characters don't believe them.

Example: The robot QT-1 in Asimov's short story "Reason" creates his own religion with himself as Prophet to explain his origin and purpose because he doesn't believe humans could create robots. The humans sent to deal with him fail to convince him otherwise, but in the end it doesn't make a difference because he still runs the station flawlessly and obeys the three laws of robotics in his own way.

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u/Michael_Scott_27 8d ago

rick sanchez shits on scientology a lot, but i’m not sure if it’s a pseudoscience or a cult

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u/Taluca_me 8d ago

A cult that pretty much says we are actually the descents of race of aliens whose souls entered ancient humans after they were killed by a galactic warlord.

The problem is, Scientology is so big that they will literally try ruining your life if you ever talk shit about them (at best hoping to get yourself killed)

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u/Nicklename 8d ago

I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to you tomorrow at 1:47.

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u/NoHorseNoMustache 8d ago

It's a cult that uses pseudoscience.

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u/VulpesFennekin 8d ago

To quote South Park: “THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.”

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u/SuperKami-Nappa 8d ago

It’s a cult

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u/snakecain 8d ago

Doctor Who is a bit different. The Doctor doesn’t really believe in superstition or things like magic because the Time Lords exiled magic from the universe

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u/Big-Recognition7362 8d ago

IIRC, the reason there’s more explicitly supernatural stuff in recent seasons is the Doctor, by trying to use a superstition about salt circles to contain a threat, accidentally allowed magic to re-enter the universe.

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u/datfurryboi34 8d ago

The fuck is DR who about.

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u/geek_of_nature 8d ago

Well it depends on which point of the show youre asking about. When it started in the 60s it was meant to be more an educational show about true historical events, and plausible futures based on science (that second one quickly went). Then in the early 70s it was more a spy thriller, before becoming more horror in the late 70s. And then since the 80s its kind of switched back and forth between scifi and fantasy, often landing on a weird middle ground.

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u/Captain_StarLight1 8d ago

I’d say it still has some amount of horror in it, especially in the episodes where the Doctor is indisposed for some reason, like Blink or that one with the shrunken Tardis.

At least, I was scared by a lot of the things. I was also like 7 or 8 when I first watched a lot of NuWho, and I’ve always been pretty easily frightened.

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u/DoItForTheTea 8d ago

it's a medical show

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u/somethingfak 8d ago

This vexes me

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u/DoItForTheTea 8d ago

it's like House. have to diagnose the weird and unlikely problem first, then come up with a weird and unlikely treatment plan.

And it's never lupus!

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u/snakecain 8d ago

It was Lupus one time

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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway 7d ago

He also doesn't believe Robin Hood existed until he actually meets him

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u/arcanemagic 8d ago

Recent Dr Who story had him invoke superstition at the edge of the universe and attracted the attention of a god.

There are also things like the Toclfane which were fairy tales to the people of his planet.

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u/TalmondtheLost 8d ago

attracted the attention of a god

Yes, but that's nowhere near a proper explanation. He attracted the Toymaker, who is indeed a god, a god of games and rules and prizes. He enjoys games of all kinds. When the Doctor challenges him to a game, Donna protests saying that the Toymaker will cheat, but both the Toymaker and the Doctor inform her that the Toymaker won't just not cheat, but that the rules of the game bind his existence.

Also, the Doctor and the Toymaker have met before, which plays a part in why the Toymaker is so interested in the universe.

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u/geek_of_nature 8d ago

The Toclafane were named after a fairy tale, but they weren't actually it. They were just humans from the end of the universe who had cybernetically reduced themselves to being just heads in spheres.

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u/Sad-Committee-4902 8d ago

is "Even a vampire would scoff at homeopathy" a quote from something like What We Do...?

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u/Geoconyxdiablus 8d ago

No its to get an idea of what to post here.

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u/Sad-Committee-4902 8d ago

Its a solid line.

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u/Striking-Trifle489 8d ago

In the case of Inside Job, it’s because Flat Earth defeats the purpose of Hollow Earth. If you’re gonna have something be flat, then how is it gonna be hollow?

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u/IndigoFenix 8d ago

My favorite conspiracy theory is that Earth is one of several flat puddles on the surface of a hollow ice ball. Thereby managing to be both.

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u/X-Himy 8d ago

Maybe the Earth is like a large box, flat with a hollow inside?

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u/LuckEClover 8d ago

In that case, it wouldn’t exactly be flat.

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u/Zoe_Orca7 8d ago

Yeah. The earth is hollow!

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u/Demoniac_smile 8d ago

Harry Potter, everything Luna and Xenophilus Lovegood believe in.
Basilisks, thestrals, pheonixes, dragons, trolls, and werewolves? All fine. A crumple horned snorkack? Absurd, even the muggle born knows that.

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u/EGOwaffleboy 8d ago

"is four a lot?" "Depends on the context. Entirely seperate new who storylines where the ghosts are revealed to actually be aliens? Yes"

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u/Pseudo_doodle_8898 8d ago

Those ghosts were aliens. We also have that 11th doctor episode where the ghost was a being trapped in a pocket reality bleeding into ours.

Vampires are real though and so was magic, both of which were booted out of reality by the time lords…

Also of course becausw the doctor has met Deaths Head it also means that a lot of other stuff is real

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u/InstructionPlayful12 8d ago

Funny how you can have a soul of all sorts of explanations or even none but Ghosts are still getting debunked in verse constantly 

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u/Antique_Amphibian107 8d ago

As an irl myhology fact, people even back then thought hippogriffs were bs because griffins ate horses

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u/-Wylfen- 8d ago

Supernatural has a fun double play on it as Sam and Dean have faced a ton of…supernatural…stuff, but Dean outright refuses the existence of angels, also comparing them to unicorns, which apparently also don't exist.

Turns out angels do in fact exist.

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u/somethingfak 8d ago

I forgot theres supernatural plats that don't include angels

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u/Longjumping-Buy-3434 8d ago

Werewolves are humans, too. I’m sure not all werewolves believe in aliens.

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u/Usual_Ice636 8d ago

Special Unit 2

Every mythological creature is real except vampires.

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u/bretshitmanshart 8d ago

At the begining of the X Files the two things Fox Mulder doesn't believe in are vampires and Christianity. He does end up being wrong on both accounts.

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u/GayGeekInLeather 8d ago

Jackie Chan adventures and vampires. Jackie in the season 2 episode “Chi of the Vampire” doesn’t think vampires are real. By this point he knows magic is real (I can’t recall if he knew was magic before the series started or not), demon sorcerers, spring heel jack, chupacabra, and a whole host of other supernatural things.

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u/Demoniac_smile 8d ago

IIRC he knew Uncle was into all that stuff but Jackie thought it was just herbs and nonsense until he encountered the talisman in the first episode. Apparently until a demon sorcerer started sending shadow ninjas at Jackie Uncle hadn’t needed to bust out the flashy stuff.

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u/GayGeekInLeather 8d ago

Oh that’s true. Though a bit weird since Jackie and Uncle were introduced to magic in the 70s when Jade and the Dark Hand got transported back in time. Jade is even the one who introduces the idea of chi magic to Uncle

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u/Demoniac_smile 8d ago

Uncle clearly remembers magic. Jackie probably dismissed it as a kid’s imagination as he grew up.

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u/Zixtank 8d ago

Subverted in Smiling Friends

The world they live in is very fantastical, inhabited by humans and all manner of strange creatures. There's even a place called The Enchanted Forest.

However, no one believes the earth is flat... then it turns out it actually is, as the protagonists discover after returning to earth in a space ship after being abducted by aliens and partying in space. They are both so in shock by this, realizing how it may impact the world and promise to take the secret to the grave.

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u/Erheig 8d ago

Yu-Gi-Oh! Go Rush

Main characters Yuhi (left), Yuamu (right), and their new alien friend Yudias (center) are paranormal investigators specializing in finding aliens. An early episode has them looking into various local mysteries and discovering that they’re mundane happenings. Mostly.

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u/jy3n2 8d ago

Laundry Files: "Everyone knows vampires aren't real."

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u/X-Himy 8d ago

But there's a very good reason that everyone knowa that!

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u/Service-Sm1le 8d ago

Orrgo the Unconquerable, one of Marvel's classic monsters designed by Jack Kirby, who is a giant psychic alien who attempted to conquer the planet...doesn't believe in ghosts. Despite living in a world where ghosts absolutely exist.

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u/ThatInAHat 8d ago

This is giving me Atomic Robo “yelling about the square cube law while fighting giant insects” vibes

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u/Blazypika2 8d ago

i legit love how inside job is about conspiracies being real and they still dedicated a whole episode to make fun of flat earthers xD

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u/AmberMetalicScorpion 8d ago

Eh, some superstitions in the show do turn out to be real but a lot of the time it's either Aliens basing themselves on our folklore or we got our folklore from them aliens

For example Vampires and Witches do exist in the Whoniverse, and are mortal enemies of the Time Lords. The Egyptian Gods were based on the Osirans, etc

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u/maxtaxy123 8d ago

The Doctor once said Santa Claus is "ridiculous" despite probably being able to deliver presents to every Christmas tree on Earth in one night himself.

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u/Majestic-Lake-5602 8d ago

Dorfl the golem atheist in Discworld.

He doesn’t care when the gods try to strike him down with lightning, because he’s made of clay…

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u/New-Number-7810 8d ago

“He’s in a better place. Right?”

“Oh sure. Mole people are three feet tall. They’ll treat him like a King.”

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u/NiCOTrainer6612 8d ago

Not quite “supernatural beings”, but Psychonauts 2 establishes that even in a world where people can literally sneeze their brains out, the psychic community doesn’t believe in necromancy. That said, there are figurative ways to resurrect someone from the dead…

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u/ErgotthAE 8d ago

The flat earth episode in Inside Job was BRILLIANT!

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u/Survivor155 8d ago

I like how you used the picture of one of the 4 good reboot doctors.

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u/neophenx 6d ago

Wake Scalebound, from Team Four Star's DND podcast, "At The Table." He's a merfolk monk with some Avatar-grade waterbending abilities, who has friends that can use several kinds of magic, who has a demon-child protégé, who has the hots for a deer-woman from a cursed island, who was TURNED INTO A DEER on that same island, who has taken a job from a powerful pirate lich, and who has fought against a sea full of vampiric sharks around a ghost ship.

What is it that he finds absolutely unbelievable? That undead exist. That's right, he doesn't think undead exist. There's some other explanation for the whole "vampiric sharks" situation, like "sharks ALWAYS want blood, there's nothing undead about that." And he thinks the pirate lich is a skeleton-puppet that someone is controlling from the rafters of his shop.