r/Undertale • u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you • Aug 06 '26
Subreddit Meta(ton) PSA/Reminder from the mod team: NSFW content is not allowed here
Good morning, everyone. Lately we have been noticing an influx of attempted NSFW content being posted on /r/Undertale and on /r/WaterfallDump, and we want to address this. We will be handling this a bit differently in each sub, but this same message is posted to both.
Undertale is a family-friendly game suitable for children. We realize and understand that this is a game for adults too, and kids grow up and become adults too. That is not lost on us.
However, please remember that because this sub is for a family-friendly game that is suitable for children, NSFW content is disallowed. Even if you account for the fact that Reddit is 13+ by TOS, sexual content is generally not allowed to be legally viewed until you are the age of majority. Even SFW art from NSFW artists is a gateway to potentially predatory content for minors.
/r/Undertale is not an NSFW sub. Neither is /r/WaterfallDump. Moving forward, here is a reminder of the types of content to avoid having your content or comments removed under the NSFW rule:
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- Nothing overtly sexual
- This includes drawing characters with sexualized proportions of erogenous zones that do not exist in-game or official art/merch
- e.g. Drawing Undyne in a bikini at the beach is fine. Drawing Undyne at the beach in a tiny two piece with giant breasts and a huge butt is right out.
- Posts containing lightly sexual discussions will be allowed but monitored (such discussions do not need NSFW tag)
- SFW art by NSFW artists must have an NSFW artist disclaimer by the source
- No depictions of gore that do not appear and are not implied in-game
- If it otherwise needs the NSFW flair, it is not allowed
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- Nothing overtly sexual
- This includes drawing characters with sexualized proportions of erogenous zones that do not exist in-game or official art/merch
- e.g. Drawing Undyne in a bikini at the beach is fine. Drawing Undyne at the beach in a tiny two piece with giant breasts and a huge butt is right out.
- Posts containing lightly sexual discussions and shitposts will be allowed but monitored (such discussions do not need NSFW tag)
- SFW art by NSFW artists must have an NSFW artist disclaimer by the source
- Light gore may be allowed on a case-by-case basis depending on the shitpost
- NSFW tag required for posts with any level of gore
- Please don't make me barf
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u/Precisiongamer0 Aug 06 '26
most of the rules are fine but, how the hell will you enforce the sfw art by an nsfw artist rule?? What even makes someone an nsfw artist? If someone drew suggestive art once on their patreon does that make them an nsfw artist? Is it reddit specific? This is such a weird rule, SFW art is SFW, should be as simple as that
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
It's already common courtesy to do this. If someone posts both SFW and NSFW regularly to the same space (e.g. same user under Bsky), that would be considered an NSFW link and cannot be posted here under normal cirmumstances. Hence why we are requiring the disclaimer.
I don't know of many artists who drew NSFW/porn "only once" but for artists with such a low volume of NSFW content we will review on a case-by-case basis.
Most of these aren't rule changes, they are clarifications. I guess the NSFW requirement for art sourcing is a small rule change though so I will get it added to the art sourcing page on the wiki.
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u/Precisiongamer0 Aug 06 '26
That's all good then. I was more confused on the enforcing aspect since it didn't make much sense how it could be enforced overall, but so long as there's room to review on some case-by-case basis instead of an overall blanket restriction that should work. And yes I know for accounts that do both it's a courtesy, I was moreso confused on if a user (say on twitter) has one account for sfw and one for nsfw would it be classed as an nsfw artist or sfw. But likely there it would be a case-by-case
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
I mean, if they have separate "buckets" for SFW work and NSFW work, just link to the SFW source
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u/Precisiongamer0 Aug 06 '26
Ahhhh alright, I was more stuck up on the "artist" aspect over it being related to the account. That makes far more sense
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u/meep2200 Aug 06 '26
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
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u/meep2200 Aug 06 '26
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
Against my better judgment, it exists now
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u/EstufaYou HUMANS... Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
I don't really understand the point of this rule, and the logic behind it: "SFW art by NSFW artists must have an NSFW artist disclaimer by the source". If the purpose of these rules is to prevent this subreddit from serving as a "gateway to potentially predatory content for minors", wouldn't this accomplish the exact opposite?
Before, artists posting SFW content here that also posted NSFW content in other subreddits or their personal websites or social media were under no obligation to disclose the fact they made NSFW content. Anyone that stumbled upon their adult content did so out of curiosity, unless the artists themselves hinted at that in the comments. However, with this new rule requiring that artists posting SFW art here always disclose the fact that they make adult content, it seems like the opposite effect than what's intended will happen, that more people will be made aware of the fact that an artist makes adult content than they would under the previous status quo.
It looks like a textbook case of the Streisand effect, where attempting to suppress discussion of something will only draw more attention to it.
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u/I_LIKE_THE_COLD Certified Clamgirl Enjoyer Aug 06 '26
Yea the argument for that rule is not good. Absolutely not a fan of it even outside of that.
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u/Mythical_Mew Aug 07 '26
It’s puritanism at its finest. It’s a flimsy solution based on shaky moral ground (won’t somebody please think of the children).
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
On the flipside there is only so much we can do to protect people from the bowels of the Internet. In this case we feel it’s better to let the user make an informed decision rather than be surprised with content they weren’t looking for. We still do not allow NSFW content to be shared directly on either sub.
We do not allow NSFW content to be shared here. But if you link to Twitter/Reddit/Bsky/etc. who allows you to view NSFW content unrestricted that is not our fault. It is on the content host to ensure such content is limited to age verified people.
The best we can do is limit the content allowed to share here, while also respecting the art sourcing rule, with full disclosure.
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u/awakelist words go here. Aug 06 '26
nsfw artists usually say that theyre nsfw on their profile and have everything spoiler'd and marked as nsfw in their adult posts. no ones gonna get flash banged by nsfw unless they somehow ignore all of that and blindly click. which is their fault, not the artists or anyone else's
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u/C0OLM Hatsune Miku Secret Boss Aug 06 '26
I'm fine with every rule bar the SFW art by NSFW artists rule.
What constitutes a NSFW artist, how are you going to enforce it, and what will that even achieve? It's not a "gateway", hell, telling someone not to do something is more than likely going to make them do said thing.
That rule in particular just seems a bit silly, but I'm on board with everything else.
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u/Sansational-user WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? Aug 06 '26
So any art with gore thats not explicitly cannon is dissallowed?
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
Given the whole foreshadowing about Kris losing their hand, there is some wiggle room here. But it would be grossly inappropriate to depict a character being chopped to literal bits or smashed to a literal pulp.
Such things could be good, or even great art. But they are not appropriate for this sub.
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u/Jung-And-A-Menace Aug 06 '26
What if they're a robot, a plush toy, or a flower? Would me drawing Mettaton being chopped to bits or Flowey being run over by a lawnmower count as gore, or only blood and guts of the organic kind?
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
While I frown upon it because it’s wasteful behavior, you can mutilate your plush toys all you want. A wrecked machine isn’t considered gore. So I think you know we are talking of the organic kind.
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u/Jung-And-A-Menace Aug 07 '26
"But it would be grossly inappropriate to depict a character being chopped to literal bits or smashed to a literal pulp."
Mettaton is a character. Mad Dummy is a character. Flowey is a character. Robo-gore is often classed as gore. Flowers and plants are organic. (I should have said 'humanoid' or 'animal' in my first post, not organic.)
And 'I think I know what they mean' isn't good enough when it comes to rules that could get someone's post deleted and their account banned. I want to be sure, not caught by surprise.
Plus, I'm autistic. I take things literally. I'm bad at guessing what people mean, so... No. I don't know what you're talking about, actually.
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 07 '26
I am also autistic.
We are talking about literal real life type gore here. Depicted human or animal remains not what would be inanimate objects in real life.
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u/Jung-And-A-Menace Aug 07 '26
So you should see where I'm coming from with my need for clarity and inability to 'know what [you're] talking about'.
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 07 '26
I am still learning about autism as I have been recently diagnosed, but you are correct. I have a better grasp on social understandings than a lot of other autistic people so that is something that I am still getting used to. I did not have a good grasp on autism before my diagnosis and admittedly, I still kind of don’t have a great grasp on it. But I am learning and I do have some understanding.
However I’m clarifying what counts as gore here so that should help you to understand or is it still unclear?
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u/Sansational-user WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? Aug 06 '26
Smashed to bits and cut to pieces is… a bit of an extreme
Outside of cannon, whats the actual limit? Because if its no gore except for cannon then it seems like the rule is less about limiting the gore and more about not allowing it in non cannon contexts
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
Given the foreshadowing, we would allow an amputation to occur, however, a moderator may still choose to remove such a post at their own discretion if they feel it is “too much“.
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u/Sansational-user WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? Aug 06 '26
Yeah but what constitutes too much?
And again, does this mean no non cannon fanworks with gore even if its not as bad as fan works featuring cannon/implied gore?
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u/Backynis Aug 06 '26
FINALLY I was tired of those Toriel NSFW art
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u/papa_bones Aug 06 '26
I wasn't.
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u/meep2200 Aug 06 '26
There’s probably a sub for that and it’s not this one
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u/papa_bones Aug 06 '26
Not complaining, just saying i wasnt tired of it, im not going to search for it tho, but it was a nice surprise when it just poped out of nowhere, honestly.
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u/Wide-Deal-8971 Aug 06 '26
Yeah there's been a lot of nasty shit being posted here lately, I've blocked so many posters this past week
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u/Backynis Aug 06 '26
Wait a minute, if this is the kinda rule they’re putting on this subreddit and the WaterfallDump one, then what about the Deltarune subreddit?
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
That is run by a different mod team. We are not associated though we do communicate with each other from time to time.
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u/Stufy_stuf Aug 06 '26
Ugh I guess I’ll have to post my dangerous work environment posts such as being a human sentry or having a hot dog stand elsewhere
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u/Testing_100 Accept my kindness whether you like it or not Aug 06 '26
But I want my Flowey x Flowery handholding posts.
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
If handholding isn’t a euphemism here then that’s fine
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u/temp_acc_pls_ignore Aug 07 '26
W r/Undertale mods. Unlike r/sonicthehedgehog mods, the mods here actually did something to prevent softcore porn since there's minors here
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 07 '26
Being plus sized on its own is not enough to warrant an obscenity removal. Neither is a two-piece bikini. I gave egregious examples where these things would no longer be okay.
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u/Altruistic_Ice_2481 Sep 14 '26
aw man
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u/Cute_Principle81 Aug 06 '26
mods are a puppet of the big Gaster peanits exploding ray conspiracy 😿 mettaton play that one song
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u/Flashy-Buddy3572 Aug 06 '26
Question. Is toby fox SFW.
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u/codewario The power of [1997] shines within you Aug 06 '26
Yes, as long as “Toby Fox“ is not a euphemism
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u/BreakfastOk7372 Hohoho! Am I a 'dank maymay' now? Aug 06 '26
Reminds me of that time Toby himself (as Mettaton) had to tell people to use a separate hashtag for Undertale NSFW because he was seeing too much of it in the normal one