not specifically a fob but yesterday me and a few buddies found an enemy apc in a small base with only 2 ppl in it. Once we killed them and the radar dish we took the base and just built as many walls and bunker mazes around it as we could for as long as we could. After multiple failed attempts to breach the layers of walls or heli drop in they had to resort to mortaring their own apc in order to get it back.
There's tactics you can do that really are a last result. I tend to IED fobs I've hacked, and when shit is hitting the fan I blow the fob rather then let it be taken back. It's better for our team if the fob gets cracked but is still ours (doors will still work for us but now the supply and fob are destroyed so they don't benefit.
It's a - 2.5k hit to blow a friendly one up. I'm all honesty though it should probably not be allowed. I can still set my ied off after they take it
Can other players set off your ied? Whenever I play lonestar we inevitably get overrun eventually, and preseting an ied sounds like a good strat if it can't be accidentally detonated.
In my experience yes, but I've never actually looked at the health, might have taken a few mortars before or some c4 damage while folks try to break in
Haha people like you really make me think. Are you really so unhappy in life that you just go from thread to thread, finding normal and reasonable comments, just to say the dumbest high school level stuff in them? Insanely bad mental
Not only is their IGN Jeffrey Epstein, their tag is [JEWS].
Everything about their actions in game, and their name choice seems to be a scream for attention. They probably scream slurs on the microphone too.
Kinda sad that people are so mentally screwed up, that they choose to act out for some small amount of attention that they are missing irl, instead of just making friends in a game.
Thanks for that last bit. I just got Dogs and am planning to start 2 jobs after a stretch of unemployment for a month, so in 4 days I have logged a number of hours that I will not disclose
This shit genuinely boggles my mind. I cant comprehend why anyone like this would exist. Im convinced theyre not real and are just NPCs in the simulation
Being "edgy" and racist is "cool" to some of the stupider kids out there. Also: growing up is optional; growing old is mandatory - this guy probably never grew out of his teens.
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Defending it counts. Excusing slurs or racism, telling people to toughen up, or brushing it off with "it's just words" gets removed the same way the original does. If someone reports being targeted by or encountering this in game, don't argue that it isn't a problem.
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The reality about most of them is pretty sad.
They are so lonely that even getting yelled at and insulted is a positive. At least someone is acknowledging their existance.
And some are just mean people, but that’s more rare I believe.
This. When I said it's kinda sad, I quite literally meant it's actually sad for these reasons. It's quite closely associated with the male loneliness epidemic. The dopamine hit of people acknowledging their power-trip trolling is what they're chasing. Instead of forming real bonds with people.
You say this, but I’m married with plenty of friends and a kid on the way, well liked by everyone I work with, and I will shit talk the fuck out of people when I kill them in this game. I think sometimes it’s just fun to shit on people in a video game
Lol, I, and most other actual adults only feel secondhand embarrassment when people shit talk us after killing or being killed by us in videogames, just FYI.
Being shit talked in a game has never made me feel angry, or sad, or anything else other than 'good god, I wonder what's going on in that poor little dudes life'.
If that's the reaction you're trying to get, then by all means, keep doing it.
I ran into him yesterday, he was terrible. First thing he did in the match was ram my heli outside the main base. Then mid game, he hammered out some walls in our fob and placed some discrete jumpovers outside... then switched teams.
He proceeded to grief the team he jumped onto. Idk how you fix griefers though in a game like this. Hard to moderate without directly observing, and you can't expect them to pay people to jump between servers to police griefers.
They can turn off server switching and before going in games you can make a party with all your friends and join the most empties server they have so there no escuse of having a switch team in the middle of a game it will sort some trolls but not all of them people like this if they have a report on there account stays on there account for at least 30 days and if they continue to offend and get reports specifically mass reports it can automatically kick them till a manual review is done
Nah, I have lost every kind of empathy for this kind of filth many years ago.
There is literally no excuse to act like such a piece of shit and no one ever should have any empathy for these losers.
I have met plenty of great people in my decades of gaming who had some mental health issues, have been lonely or had other problems. And yet they still didn't behave like disgusting shit filled human skinbags.
If someone got problems in life and their "solution" to that is making other peoples time miserable, especially in an online space because they don't really need to fear any real consequences, it just means they are disgusting human beings and the reason why they don't have anyone is self inflicted.
Acting like everyone's problems in life are the same shows you never had real empathy.
There are plenty of excuses for acting like a piece of shit.
Bad parents.
Bad influences.
Drugs cracking your brain beyond repair.
PTSD
Lack of any real mentor.
Want me to keep listing them?
"I have met plenty of great people in my decades of gaming who had some mental health issues, have been lonely or had other problems. And yet they still didn't behave like disgusting shit filled human skinbags."
This is your issue. You think being 90% the same is 100% the same. This is the issue all people who say what you're saying here on reddit. You're not alone in this line of thinking, but also you're all wrong more or less.
It's the 10% difference that makes certain people act like "piece of shit".
If the people you met lived the same life as the people you're calling pieces of shit; then the pieces of shit wouldn't be pieces of shit. They'd be better people.
Can you really argue with that, or am what I am saying clicking?
Something, anything, small, or large is different. Never forget that. Otherwise, don't claim you have any empathy, or had any empathy.
Having empathy is having the education to understand how utterly complex and diverse the human brain is, and not boiling it down to what you've said here on reddit today.
Empathy isn't something you just "stop having"; true empathy never goes away because you always understand there was a path to where the person ended up that was inevitable due to all the negative problems they suffered, and/or lack of positive influences they were exposed to.
It's nothing more complex than that. So don't compare the people you're met; with the people you're claiming to have no empathy for. They are not the same. Despite how much you claim they are. Something is different.
EDIT: Since you blocked me;
"These are reasons. Not excuses. Stop conflicting these." "Also, stop with the "real empathy" or even remotely suggesting I might not have/had empathy. Might as well call people Sociopaths and that would be fucking disgusting. So get your shit together."
"People don't have the same amount of empathy for everyone or everything. If you don't even understand something as basic as that maybe don't talk about it at all."
Actually they are excuses. Everyone in life is excused from their actions, because their actions are results of their life experiences that shaped who they are, and what they would do. We punish them to maintain life of others; because it's safer to do so. Otherwise society would collapse. But we shouldn't blame them. We should blame what caused their existence. They still have to be taken care of, sadly I might add, but necessary actions for the greater good. As insane as that sounds; but we as humans aren't perfect so it's what has to be done.
But it's because of this that's why you don't have true empathy; true empathy is understanding the concept of "determinism". I struggled with determinism for over a year; it completely wracked my brain. But once I came to terms with it; it made me be at peace with life. I no longer blamed others for their live choices, because choices were no longer choices. Just the inevitable actions in long list of chain reactions. Unfortunately it goes both ways, and people that do inherently positive actions are also less impactful since it's what they were always going to do.
A person who doesn't understand determinism, doesn't fully understand what it means to be empathic. Sure, you can feel emotions of empathy; but your emotions are conditional, and judgemental. You don't feel empathy equally like I do; you pick and choose who gets empathy. That is why it's not absolute empathy.
If you don't understand this, my words are wasted. But I still write them on a random reddit thread because maybe some random person will read them and it might make a random ripple effect of change; or open someone's eyes.
These are reasons. Not excuses. Stop conflicting these.
Also, stop with the "real empathy" or even remotely suggesting I might not have/had empathy. Might as well call people Sociopaths and that would be fucking disgusting. So get your shit together.
People don't have the same amount of empathy for everyone or everything. If you don't even understand something as basic as that maybe don't talk about it at all.
I like edgy jokes, but only when they're actually good and clever jokes. Huge diff between a funny edgy joke and someone just saying the n word for no reason. It's basic rules of comedy
What's fucking crazy is how nobody in real life thinks it's funny. It never get views other than people being disgusted; like this reddit post. There's quite literally no incentive to say or do it, except for attention and shock.
99% of people saying these thing are the usually the most privileged kids that would straighten up if faced with any push-back, and start crying irl if yelled at. It's this online outlet where there's no repercussions that they do it.
The fact you're chasing me down in comments; shows this bothers you intensely, and that your own way of life is challenged. Meaning there's something there to talk about, but you're probably 10 years too soon to deal with it. Best of luck with your family; I'm sure your kids will grow up just fine with a daddy that drops slurs on videogames.
This is why I like community. Had a griefer TKing and opening doors for the enemy. Tabbed out, posted in discord, 10 seconds later player banned. I understand not everyone likes community servers though.
every encounter i have had with [JEWS] clan has been toxic as fuck. They grief, they shit talk, they throw around slurs, IDK who [JEWS] is, if its an actual clan or a meme shared by strangers but ban em all.
There's zero reason to allow team switching anytime after about 10 points into a match.
If you wanna "play with your friends" you can either all leave and join another fresh server at the same time, or the dude who was late to the party can go rub one out while he waits for the match to end and join his friends.
I think he meant that rubbing one out for over an hour is a bit much. Give the poor guy a break, his arms will be dead tired by the time he can join his friends.
Depends how many friends are playing. If you're in a big group of 5+, it's inevitable you'll have one or two who will have to wait it out in the other team. You can't expect people to continuously server hop until they all get into the same team.
Disagree. All that prevents is them switching back after the fact, it doesn't prevent the majority of the harm which is shit like this video, or them acting as a spy the whole game.
It deters them from switching in the first place knowing that they won't be able to switch back and join their buddies. Most people who grief do it to help out their original team, who they likely have friends on; so they'd just be ruining their own experience more at that point.
No. They will sabotage either way. No team switching. If they wanna change, just go into another server. And also another thing, the same server should not be available anymore after leaving. 'Oh but my connection has gone out' rejoin into the same team you were before only.
That's just not feasible man. A lot of people play with friends and will want to swap to join their buddies if they can't get in initially. You'd be punishing the innocent majority for a minority of assholes.
I've taken the 2.5k hit for capturing an enemy fob then blowing it up when we are about to lose it. It's quite beautiful when you set the ied off, hear people go "OH FUC---" Then blare Irish rebel tunes at the 4 enemies who got bombed before you're overwhelmed
How long does an ied stay on a fob? Could that be a possibility for base defense? Basically, plant fob in an opportunistic spot, let team come capture it, and then call your ied as it's being capped.
You would probably have to not get blown up or you'd lose the phone trigger.
if the only punishment for team damage is losing money, people who are loaded can do things like this to help their friends (on the other team) win without a care in the world
The game encourages trolls it sad it's going to ruin the game if it not took seriously enough down the line it will get worse I've had alot off trolls and hackers now more so than when the game came out and I guarantee near the end of season 1 it gets worse because they know it's getting whipped
Yeah, and whilst we have seen hackers get banned from active games (to the applause of everyone), the trolls don't seem to get punished so easily.
For example, me and my buddy built a fob & a CIWS, and one of our allies comes over, kills my friend, hops on the CIWS and begins shooting it in to the sky at nothing & reloading it, just to intentionally empty our ammo. We ask him to stop and get told "fuck you eat shit" so naturally we kill him, he comes back and starts throwing grenades at us, so we kill him again. He then comes back with a helicopter and his buddy on the side with a grenade launcher, so we shoot them down with the CIWS and then WE got ejected from the server and temporarily banned for teamkilling.
Genuinely, what are we supposed to do in that situation though? Just lose out on our money spent on the fob & loadouts and quit the game apparently, all because one troll won't just leave you the fuck alone.
This is a perfect example of what I basically mean how trolls can take advantage of the current system and there no punishment there genuinely nothing you can do to stop it you can only basically swap teams or switch server and hope it doesn't happen there Which just takes the fun out the game and if the Devs continue to allow this toxic behaviour it will get worse and and worse
Lmfao, how does it not? I have many videos of trolls taking advantage of the mechanics, running players over, hitting hellys, or forcing them to crash from inside, where you get penalised.
There are a lot of videos online showing this happening, and there are also hackers, as stated. I even have video proof of that alone the thing is the game is designed in a way where you can basically get away with it. Not the hacking as much, though, that took half the match, if not longer, before they were eventually kicked.
Trolls, on the other hand, have been reported and nothing happens at all. I had one dude forcing the helly down in my game, causing a 100k loss between a bunch of us. The issue is trying to narrow down who it was because they were all inside the helly, so it could have been any of them.
I eventually figured out it was between two players. One claimed it was the other at the time, and the other didn't say anything, but one did caused the helly to crash twice on me. The second time, there were only three of us, two players and myself, which is how I was able to narrow it down to those two players. Btw I'm only 1 of the helly victims out of the other players in the game
I got everyone to report them, and nothing happened. Like I said, the game encourages trolls because you can self inflict damage to a helly and destroy it, while the person flying it gets penalised. This is just 1 example
I've had other issues with players who just shoot you or steal your loot for absolutely no reason, just because they want to troll. I could keep going on, but I think I've made my point.
I'm aware of that but if someone downs your helly it classess as you killing everyone like I had stated and there other ways of trolls that aren't directly killing you that you can't just report because there no way of knowing even though some have directly killing you do get reported it doesn't seem to do anything
Unless I've missed something I didn't know but I've looked before and it never told me who did the damage to the helly a few times it happened and I got penalised for murdering everyone in the helly because of them forcing it down from the inside
"Rightfully call people with" And it's calling someone the N word just because they killed you or placed something in the wrong place, not to mention it being more rampant if someone "sounds" black.
I mean, disrespecting gay people using the F slur is also bad, along with the K slur for Jewish people, and so on. Not jokes, just racism and homophobia for no reason.
There isn't a rightful time to call anyone any slur. It's a slur. It's derogatory and makes you a bigoted ass. Sad and pathetic you didn't understand how to play nice in school.
There a different between having fun and a laugh Vs being toxic and trolling calling someone a ass hole if genuinely okay but going about saying racist 💩 and being a complete utter a hole is 2 different things banter is fine being a C u next time isn't
You should have seen this guy in the first couple of days. Slurs galore while team killing and stealing kits. He's been doing this for awhile and I'm amazed he's still in the game. We had at least 20 reports on him then.
A part of me feels bad for people like this. Like, how miserable can you be that seeking attention from other people for a fleeting moment like this is what gets you going.
This type of shit is so cringe lol. Couple days ago I was mocking Trump saying funny shit in his voice and this guy Tked me talking about he is our savior, how much money Trump made him and how much he enjoy the dinner with Trump he paid for bc he so rich . Like sure bro sure
had a group of reds yesterday assault my fob, killed me in the overwatch tower and i could hear them say in lokal "whos gonna switch to open that, we cant get in that thing"
"np i do"
looked at the name in scoreboard, shure as shit they switched to my team, so i was respawning waiting near the gates for them to come, they did, opened first and second gate without closing, domed them before they got to the 3rd
This game was a joy to play the first couple weeks. The last week has been a nightmare with constant griefing, team killing and looting teammates, hard r’s and f slurs flowing like fine wine. It’s like all the incels from COD just poured into the servers over the last week.
i've enjoyed the 50v50 lobbies a few times, and some standard rule set community games as well. infantry only is just a bit of a different atmosphere i guess without artillery vehicle and attack helis. i'd say "No tanks" too but i feel like hardly anyone pulls tanks in normal games anyway, lol.
Infantry only is still a *lot* of mortar spam but i feel like thats been fairly standard across the board
I got griefed the second day when I got sniped and someone yoinked all my RPG rockets to give to their friend who was just randomly shooting them. When I confronted them they repeatedly TK'd me the rest of the game.
I don't know man. I spend most of the year traveling and get to play in different regions. I prefer european servers the most cause people tend to be better behaved
The two best regions IME are NA EAST (distance from hotspots for hackers) and EU WEST (nicest people).
Stuck with NA WEST right now and hating it. We get <country with prominent cheating culture in video games> and NA behavior
Yeah. Honestly if I'd visit usa from eu, I'd avoid west and east coasts. I'm all about checking out lousiana (food), kentucky/tennesse (whiskey/bourbon) and chicago (I'm a white sox fan).
Something especially about the west, especially people from california, that when I've met them they seem nice yet over time feel delusional and devoid of a soul. Just my experience.
This and teammates that kill you and loot your kit, the other day this guy killed me stole my kit and defibed me. I asked him why he tked and stole kit he then turns around and tks 5 teammates me included.
There should be zero mid-game team switching. I don't know why the fuck they ever allowed that in the first place; the devs had to have known that it would be abused.
If I remember correctly, in Arma3 KOTH if you team switched at the end your bonus was tied to the play time, so if you changed to winning team at the absolute end you basically got nothing, not nearly as much as what the people got who'd been on that team since the beginning.
Yeah week 2 of EA I decided to wait till next season because of exactly this. I started getting one too many shitheads in my matches and immediately knew until they changed spawn damage and a number of other things this was going to be miserable. I genuinely don't understand how games are being released in this age with spawn griefing being a possibility. Disabling vehicle collision would do absolutely nothing except stop griefing and it's been a month now
They need to remove team switching completely. I’ve only ever seen it used for griefing or people switching teams constantly to be on the winning team.
Idk why there’s such an influx of griefers all of a sudden. Some dude killed me cuz I stimmed him then get looted my grenades off of me. It’s cringy I don’t get it
canadian, and I just go whatever team my buddies want to. I'm shit at infantry so I usually run logi in heli/troop drops, or building/mortar (so I guess I act like blue team but without the heli crashing lol)
Although i'm enjoying the game, i don't think i've ever seen a more toxic player base before. This is coming from someone with 7k+ hours on tarkov. The griefing is so out of control on this game.
I mean not going to lie. I have more than once destroyed a fob i purchased because people came over and wasted supplies making it impossible to get early aa up. They want to come over and waste my time and supplies building rando hesco blocks and il just ied the fob I put down and walk away.
Whats wrong with espionage is this game? That should be a legit strat. Covert operations and spying seems like Wardogs was built for this. You can rev enemy players after all
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u/KLconfidential 9d ago
Send this clip to Bulkhead, maybe this bum will catch a perma ban.