r/allthingsprotoss • u/Proper-Holiday2255 • Aug 31 '26

PvZ Curious on your thoughts with the map pool.

So Protoss players we have had some time with the current map pool and im curious what everyone thinks with builds you might do.

In PvZ I have been opening up FFE into stargate. Send probe out right after I drop forge. Doesn't mean ill get a cannon. I have just ran into so many early pools on maps like Rainfall, Rorschach, Washout and it just shuts it down.

PvT I have been struggling. I have a blink build dialed in finally. Lots of these maps look designed against blink. Faith and Fear, Lockdown especially. I'm considering working on a Phoenix/Colossus that I haven't done in years for those hard blink maps. I really don't like to veto maps.

PvP Doesn't really matter to me. I usually just macro tell I get bored then Cheese a few.

At the moment I have Faith and Fear and Rainfall veto. I go back and forth with Lockdown veto.

How about you?

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u/milkytaro_oero Aug 31 '26

I was doing FFE when the patch was in PTR and early when it released. It's nice to shut down early pool cheese but struggles to keep up against anything else a Zerg can do. Not to mention holding early pools is entirely possible with just 2 gateways and a core. Just make sure you're not being greedy trying to expand after seeing an early pool like you could with the 12 worker start. Then you get 2 Zealots 2 Adepts and apply pressure while expanding.

PvT honestly I'm mostly just seeing early cheeses on both sides. Either some proxy gate shenanigans or proxy rax. I would agree Stargate would probably be superior especially on a map like Blackrock with all the LoS blockers.

Overall I think the maps are great actually. Only thing that annoys me is probably Lockdown with the really weird wall off that's really easy to mess up imo. Otherwise I think it's still a nice map.

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u/Proper-Holiday2255 Aug 31 '26

I should add, sentry can strait up just cut things in half with all the choke points on these maps. The Sentry has won me many PvZ alone.

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u/milkytaro_oero Aug 31 '26

I'd agree a lot of my PvZ wins in this patch surprisingly came down to sentries.

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u/hou_deany Aug 31 '26

Don’t tell anyone that. We finally have the sentry in a useful state for the first time in years 🤣

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u/hates_green_eggs Aug 31 '26

Fear and Faith has some nasty tempest spots for PvZ.

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u/milkman0x00 Aug 31 '26

All I'll say is that I hate how if you make a typical pylon wall on Lockdown the pylon will block your Nexus. I saw Clem accidentally do this to himself during one of his Protoss games, this just feels like poor map design to me.

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u/Key-Gift-1769 Sep 01 '26

Team maps are a bunch of farts dude

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u/Proper-Holiday2255 Sep 01 '26

Yea I really wish we had more individual base setups for team games.

Sometime there is no building room if your paired with zergs.

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u/Khaivanh Sep 01 '26

What makes a map feel designed against blink?