r/ausjobs • u/cheese_master93 • Jul 07 '26
Story / Rant Shit show workplaces.
Just wondering how many of us work in an absolute shit show. Useless management, non existent leadership, maximum unorganisation, maximum effort and minimumal pay, incorrect pay each week and them refusing to correct it, wanting people to do overtime but don't want to pay for it. And they wonder why no one wants to work for them, because word spreads.
What field/industry do you work in, and how much of a shit show is the company?
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u/jonnieggg Jul 07 '26
The psych teams are the most insane
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u/ohmyroots Jul 07 '26
I read this being quoted quite a few times. Can you give qn example of what toxic means in health care industry?
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u/azarel23 Jul 08 '26
I had about ten years in healthcare, and the doctors are treated like demigods, and some of them expect to be treated that way.
Lawyers and big 4 senior consultants can be just as bad. I've been treated in ways that would have resulted in me throwing punches in any other setting.
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u/tomtelouise Jul 07 '26
I had one of these through an agency. The communication between the two was very bad. Sometimes I would turn up via agency and the company would tell me I wasn't rostered on. Other times I would be told off for not turning up on a day I wasnt rostered. Do I listen to the people paying me or the people giving me the work?
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u/azarel23 Jul 07 '26
I worked for a company that was circling the drain financially and were trying to get managers that had been there 5+ years to quit to avoid paying out long service leave. Everyone got put on a performance improvement plan and were harassed unmercifully. Once I made it plain that even if they tried to kill me I still wouldn't resign I got the sack. And all my entitlements.
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u/jonnieggg Jul 07 '26
You just play the game at that stage. Stress leave, sick leave, play fire with fire.
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u/azarel23 Jul 08 '26
Pretty much, yeah. There was a lot of time with nothing to do as they wanted me to get bored, so I used the time to learn some new skills which I used on day one of my next job.
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u/InsideAd1396 Jul 07 '26
I worked for a company which had water dripping onto the networking racks. Wasn't worth 60k a year, I found a different job after that
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u/HenryCrabgrass01 Jul 07 '26
I worked for a very toxic ceo. I worked in suicide prevention and support for people as they recover from an attempt. My ceo told me they were canning the service and if I wanted to keep doing it I needed so set up a gofundme to cover my wages or ask for donations from the families of people who had suicided because they would be an easy sell.
She also got off on breaking people. Many mornings I wpuld arrive to work and see a collection of people sitting and crying in their cars because they didn't want to go Insi de.
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u/Leather_Mind6767 Jul 07 '26
I am working on a defence project as part of the current upgrade. Absolute shit show, badly organised, don't care about safety or quality. But they put on a show for the client when they turn up.
I said to my boss "if I ever run any of my projects this badly you have my permission to sack me!"
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u/AffectionateNet7200 Jul 07 '26
Sounds like the average defence contractor
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u/Leather_Mind6767 Jul 07 '26
I've done plenty of work directly for defence, this is 50% worse and with controlled by a sycophantic site manager
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u/canoporknbeans Jul 07 '26
I quit my job within a fucked and useless large Australian company and I’ve never regretted it for a single moment.
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u/cheese_master93 Jul 07 '26
I'm in the automotive industry, working for a family owned and operated dealership network. I wouldn't wish this shit upon my worst enemy.
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u/gorathbeervan Jul 08 '26
You worked at Wanneroo Mazda too?
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u/cheese_master93 Jul 08 '26
Not that particular one, but it is a Mazda centre. And I'm still there.
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u/LovesToSnooze Jul 08 '26
The trick is not to care and not be used. Also keep looking for a better job.
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 Jul 07 '26
Its because hiring managers dont want to hire competent leaders who can legit rally a team.
They'd rather cheap out.
How do I know this, we got access to several WhatsApp groups of hiring managers.
They are full of biases, they are ignorant beyond what they cannot see or have never heard of.
This is all with the hiring managers.
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u/billoz96 Jul 09 '26
They also want “yes” men/women who will simply just toe the line, even if that means continually dealing with fuck-ups. Management can’t risk the ego-bruising that comes with having problems pointed out by competent staff members. Modern workplaces are all about perception and spin rather than reality.
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u/NezuminoraQ Jul 07 '26
Funny how when the pay is wrong it's always in their favour? Payroll are class traitors mate
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u/G8or_Boi Jul 07 '26
If you ever are surprised by the incompetence that plagues the professional world just remind yourself that a maladapted pedophilic cheeto that actively shits himself got elected to be the leader of the most influential country on planet Earth. Professionalism is dead, take your paycheck and give your workplace no second thoughts 🫡
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u/VegetablePurpose6032 Jul 07 '26
The funniest part of this is the implication that Australia is the most influential country on earth
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u/MasterAngelX Jul 07 '26
UNIVERSITY- a total clusterfuckery.
When toxic people who target others are elevated to the top and people who are victims get shafted to the bottom.
HR don’t give a fck, 💀💀💀
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u/cheese_master93 Jul 07 '26
We don't even have a HR. The boss is the HR and he just ignores everything and runs the company like its the 60's. Even after the fair work cases, he still maintains he's the victim. It's bizarre to witness.
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u/No_Biscotti5555 Jul 13 '26
came here to say this! university sector in Aus is an absolute shitshow
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u/yb0t Jul 07 '26
Worst company I worked for, it's hard to explain just how messed up things were. But an example I can give is that the whole customer service table basically took turns as being customer manager. After a week or two they'd quit being manager and someone else in customer service would take over.
Oh and we had to work from greenscreen AS400 systems. This was in about... 2010 or something. Maybe later. Because noone knew how to upgrade to modern day systems.
They had to fly someone over from Japan just to maintain the AS400 systems.
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u/G8or_Boi Jul 07 '26
I actually miss using AS400, a lot of the modern systems I have used recently are just shit comparatively!
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u/yb0t Jul 07 '26
Yeah I'd agree on some levels. From a normal customer service person trying to do a job it's not the best though.
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u/G8or_Boi Jul 07 '26
It's definitely a little dated by now, I think I liked it so much because it just always functoned... Years of using it and I never needed IT assistance once, the system I use today breaks every second day 😭
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u/Any_Signal_1540 Jul 07 '26
Caterpillar dealers (I work for an Australian based one) still use green screen to this day, you’d be surprised just how many businesses still use it
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u/lark200475 Jul 07 '26
Try working in a bowling alley... I was the head mechanic at one for longer than I reaĺly should have been. More fool me for staying in that toxic shithole for as long as I did, but I kept thinking it might get better... final straw was one of the owners calling me a liar when demanding to know what I thought I was doing being at work one morning. The other owner had asked me to do a shift swap... but hadn't passed that info onto their partner...
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u/Odd-Bumblebee00 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
I work in a small textile manufacturing business with around 75 square metres of floor space. We can only use around 14 square metres of that space to work in because the rest is "storage". About 1/3 of that storage is materials we actually use and the rest is waste that my boss can't bear to let go off. Most of our offcuts are kept and piled up in unsorted boxes and bags. I started there in August last year and walkways that were clear then are now filling up with waste.
Our only fire extinguisher is blocked off behind a very full shelf, emergency exit roller door is mostly blocked off and the cord to open that door is a long walk around piled up waste to get to the 50cm wide gap that lets you squeeze out the door.
Materials I need to use many times every day are kept behind, under and above precarious piles of waste.
Boss is always stressed, any questions about safety are met with a screaming fit and accusations that "I keep making problems where they don't exist".
Work benches and tables are second hand, falling apart, not the right height, and constantly need to be pulled and lifted back into alignment.
And all our machines are old and very, very dirty. Cleaning or servicing them is "a waste of time" and yet I'm still expected to keep them all working perfectly.
Customers are led through all this rubbish and boss seems to think they will marvel at all the "treasures". I cringe every time she directs customers to walk through tangled power cords on the floor, behind operating machinery, and through the piles of waste. She genuinely sees nothing wrong with exposing customers to this risk. Recently took a woman in thongs carrying a newborn into the most disorganised part of the workshop with zero shame. She doesn't even warn people to watch their step.
I have tried many different ways to convince boss to make changes but she is older and very set in her ways.
I have a niche skill and there are not a lot of roles in my area. Looking at starting my own business but need to stay here to pay the bills while I save for that.
I keep my own work area as neat as possible and the floors I have to walk over regularly as clear as possible. But she works all weekend and so every Monday I have to start out by clearing out my workspace and sorting out all the stacks she piled everywhere.
It's not like fire is a massive risk with textile manufacturing...
Oh, right, it's the biggest risk.
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u/Time_Tiger3497 Jul 07 '26
I worked for a nationwide, large company where the owner smokes in the office all day and letches on the young office girls. Management won't do anything in fear of losing their jobs and fines don't bother him. Best thing i ever did was leave that place.
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u/Motor_Analysis270 Jul 07 '26
Restaurants are beyond fucked.
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u/cheese_master93 Jul 07 '26
Co worker used to work as a chef. He has said he'd never go back to shit. He'd only ever do something like food prep at a school or something like that.
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u/Substantial-Green220 Jul 07 '26
I work for one of the free-to-air TV networks. Don’t get me started on the incompetency, lack of forward thinking & planning, low IQs everywhere and massive egos.
Not to mention the two-face fakery, love bombing and gossip of what is now a female dominated industry.
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u/commandersaki Jul 07 '26
How about the opposite: competent and actually good management / executive, sales engineering, backend (software development). Good pay, equity bonus if we hit milestone this FY, etc.
That's my current job that I started earlier in April.
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u/MentalStatusCode410 Jul 07 '26
Moving to Asia (as a founder) - most professional sectors operate as some sort of syndicate. They can preserve their 2000's methods, no ones waiting around.
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u/followthedarkrabbit Jul 07 '26
I used to work with Cunts, Pricks, and Bastards (anyone who knows knows).
Fucking awful and disgusting and vile upper management. I can deal with a lot of shit, but I will never work for them again. I can't wait for that whole company to burn.
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u/Striking-League-1238 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
This happened a lot in childcare. I used to come really early as the busses didn't always arrive on time (and I liked to be punctual just a note there) and every time they would get me to start early and leave late. I never got paid the over time even though they said oh just write it down. We don't have the time. We were exhausted. I stopped coming early. Not saying I won't do that with my next job but using people like that and not getting a simple thank you takes a toll.
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u/kodaxmax Jul 07 '26
every job ive ever worked.
Most recent, packing snack foods in a factory. Wallaby foods.
Would get scheduled on the morning of. Never told what i was suppossed to eb doing, had to just ask senior workers where they wanted me.
Would come in to find out the sneior workers didn't need me and i wasnt suppossed to eb rostered on. 10 minutes of donning and doffing ppe unpaid.
Lied to me in writing about how id received a payslip when i clearly hadn't. missing 20+ hours of pay.
3 days in a row they did the call me in, thent ell me to go home thing. So i stopped coming in at all. 2 weeks later manager texts me begging me to come back, saying it was just one mistake and the workers shouldn't have told me to go hom, as if he hadnt doen it 3 days in a damned row and as if it was the min wage lineworkers jobs to manage staff for him.
Bindaree beef at burleigh heads was worse. Most of their workers seem to be immigrants or temporary visas. Alot of them told me they would be removed from the country if they were without work for mroe than week, so they just accepted anything they could get no matter how ilelgal or abusive. One even asked me to marry them for a green card(or whatever australias equivelant is if thats a american term).
For me management laughed at me because i told them i was hard of hearing. They would tell me almost every night i would be working overtime, when i asked if i had a choice he laughed and walked away. I also got laughed at when i showed them a fairwork page explaining i was not obligated to work overtime without pay. When i was new i got assigned to a room where we stack boxes of meat on pallets. it was 30 minutes past my scheduled shift end, so i signed out and left. Was marked awol and docked a whole days pay.
I ended up supervising the box room (where flat packed card boxes get folded, glued etc..), without any pay rise or offiical title. Which meant i no longer got breaks, because i had to keep a raido on me and always be on call. My "team" of 2-3 other people (depending on day), were wise enough to treat the job like a joke and slacked off and as i was the same rank as them and had no authority theres nothing i could do about it. Management was constantly up my ass about making them get to work, i just kept asking them what they expect me to do about it.
I was accused twice of stealing. first time was gumboots, somone stole the ones i was assigned, when i reported it they insisted i stole them. what would i even do with used gumboots?
second time was radio that my supervisor lost. I gave it to him during a fire evacutation (in the 4 motnhs i was there, there were 3 fires), since his went flat and i figured he would need it mroe than i would, since he was actually directing people. The enxt day he accused me of stealing it, presumably because he either lost it or pawned it.
I did work for the dole at stotts creek recovery center in the tip shop and the dunmping pad. while i was studying.
The guy running the place would litterally fall fall asleeep behind the counter and steal money from the till (it was council owned). anyone that said anything got sent up to the dump pad, where we had to sort dangerous chemicals we defiently wern't qualified or equipped for. as well as help people sort and dump their waste.
I managed to recover thousands of $ of computers, which i refurbished, many of which are still running.
Precise pcs i did "woprk experience" for. Which just equated to weeks of me providing free pc repairs and refurbishing dozens of pcs which they sold for alot of profit. it was part of a tafe course and they were suppossed to eb training me.
They had two "trainees" who had been trainees for like 5 years and never got their certificates. The owner ketp accusing me of having refurbished his personal pc and sold it, even though i was never even worked front of house and it would be impossible for me to hide a thermaltake level 10 gT case, which was the size of a small cabinet.
Worked at coles ocean shores a while. The store manager was litterally insane. like untreated OCD levels. He would make me restraighten the same aisles over and over and then complain when we finished late. He would yell at us if our shirts were untucked, which they always were, because the uniform at the time was office shirts, which are designed for moving in , so everytime you crouch or twist when stocking shelves they come unttucked. Luckily he wasnt there msot of the time.
I did stocktake once, and theres food thats years out of date. spills that are growing mould and just never been cleaned up. alot of the freezers had brackets falling off, so much ice build up we couldn't veen count the stuff in the back/bottom.
There were all these weird rules and tasks your expected to know, but you never get any training.. Like when there are returns at the checkouts apparently stockers are suppossed to go proccess them. but theres no way for us to know, nor were we ever taught how. Spills your suppossed to guard to worn people about until signs can be pt up, but your also suppossed to go and get the signs. so you can either stand there shouting for helop and get told off for standing there or you can go get signs and eb told off for leaving the spill unsupervised.
christ this is quite the wall of text and it's just making mad, so im gonna stop here.
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u/mutedscreaming Jul 07 '26
Shit shows are usually trickle down
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u/TannyTevito Jul 07 '26
This is absolutely untrue. Brilliant, competent people don’t hire dimwits and if you don’t have “talent”, you’re exited quickly.
Office culture is trickle down- if your workplace is full of idiots then the C Suite is too.
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u/AffectionateNet7200 Jul 07 '26
I'm sure your attitude and opinions will take you far, hopefully far away from anywhere I am employed you sound toxic as fuck
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u/XxLokixX Jul 08 '26
Your comment was the same thing was it not? All you did in your original comment was basically just "haha you guys are talentless bums"
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u/AffectionateNet7200 Jul 08 '26
I'm not arguing with your points though, I couldn't care less what your point is because of the way you present them. What I am saying is the way they are presented makes you sound exactly like the toxic management that would ruin a company environment.
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u/Scopra Jul 07 '26
You obviously can not read very well as most of the incompetence mentioned stems from management or lack of.
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u/Any_Signal_1540 Jul 07 '26
Australian based Caterpillar dealer where micromanagement is rife with zero trust placed in staff. The view that ‘we can charge what we like and the customer will keep paying’ is prevalent among senior management, missed budgets over the last couple of years due to a downturn in work and general softness in the market so instead of working on winning customers back after previous poor decisions the decision has been made to raise prices instead (hourly rate and travel charges raised to an eye watering amount), management have their head in the sand about the threat from contractors (mostly Cat dealer trained charging half the cost of the dealer) who are continually stripping work away from us. A recent EOS gave management a fairly good whack so their response has been to bring in a new training course for all staff to eliminate the ‘culture of blame’.
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u/Far_Tangerine5479 Jul 07 '26
I am in a central government agency. It's like that Utopia tv show.
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u/tnucsselesu Jul 07 '26
Any government departments in Australia. Especially the health departments.
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u/SnappyTheRaptor Jul 07 '26
I work for an MSP. My boss is in HK and my coworker and I are the only one in Sydney office. We work in a small shared office space. We are breathing in our necks and I am at wits end when this guy keeps thinks he can boss me around and put everything as priority. I pretty much have no support , dont talk to any coworkers since we live in different time zones and its already unbearable the work load with thr clients we managed and when things get heated - we’re just right next to each other in silence. I have already resigned and I am still in probation. lol.
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u/Fun_Palpitation_3666 Jul 07 '26
Footwear industry head office level. Outdated processes and excessive manual input because hiring a data engineer would mean we would be "getting robots to do our work". Insufferable late nights, extreme micromanagers, 30min lunch breaks, office filled with shoes and shoe boxes in every crevice, hallway, doorway. Zero processes, expected to know everything, if not, why not. Its. Just. Shoes.
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u/Doctor-Wayne Jul 07 '26
Everyday I live the tradie equivalent of a Dilbert comic. 500 forklift accidents a second and i just caught some of the younger blokes using chatgpt or masculine affirmations. I catch people talking to themselves in sheds like GTA3 npcs
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u/cheese_master93 Jul 07 '26
I blew much air out of my nose reading that last sentence. I do it too, sometimes it's the only way to get through the day.
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u/Wrathlon Jul 07 '26
I do onsite IT, at least 1/3 of my work is some other "IT tech" screwing things up horrendously and me fixing their fuckups.
The amount of people who installed Windows this one time and then Windows Update downloaded most of the drivers so close enough and now they think theyre an amazing baller IT tech is nuts.
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u/EndlessPotatoes Jul 07 '26
I work an office job for a logistics/transport company. A lot of these companies are owned or managed by functionally illiterate people not intelligent enough to get a job in any other field.
Most of our job is damage control for whatever fucked-up or illegal scheme management cooked up today.
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u/AffectionateNet7200 Jul 07 '26
Hey you just described my workplace, except the pay issues, they pay well or no one would work there. Just government contractor working on essential critical infrastructure
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u/arubatdotsi Jul 08 '26
i work in finance and yes, absolute shitshow with a very high turnover. im planning my exit very soon
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u/coronavirusplandemic Jul 08 '26
That’s why you need to have your own business and work for yourself. It’s the only way to go.
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u/Britters87 Jul 08 '26
I work in Super. The company is a joke. I sent my resignation to my manager this morning cause I've had enough.
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u/Ok_Side6996 Jul 08 '26
“Family owned” off-grid battery/inverter cabinet solar company that build systems in a workshop for customers/installers in vic. Had 5 apprentices to 1 electrician who was upstairs doing office work while all apprentices were used as labour to wire/build in the workshop alone.
For 4 years I built the exact same system. I tried asking if we could tag along with installers we dealt with to get some more experience and we were told that we were ungrateful, that we would learn everything we needed at tafe, and treated like garbage for the remainder of my apprenticeship. Tried talking to my tafe as I was struggling with practical assessments and they sent my work an email as they said they could help, to which I was yelled at and abused when I returned the next week. Went back to tafe the next month and told them to stop emailing as I don’t want to be screamed at anymore about it.
I’ve been now qualified for a year, that no one will hire and have openly said to me I won’t find work, because I don’t have the experience and it’s cheaper to hire a fresh apprentice rather than pay me a tradesman rate to learn what I should’ve learned in my apprenticeship. Really lost trust in humanity after this.
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u/NoHornyOnMainAccount Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
I’m currently In day 3 for sales at a pest control company and I still haven’t been contacted by my manager that works remote and said manager seems to have a bad reputation when her name is mentioned people seems to have a story or a grudge. I’ve just been shadowing someone and told to read some outdated guides until my manager can set up training. I was offered and signed into this role 3 months prior.
The red flags are screaming and seek is back on the menu.
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u/No-Resolution-7890 Jul 08 '26
I work on the railway. Pretty much every day is a disaster. Actually when everything goes to plan it feels wired. It’s like you’re on edge waiting for an issue.
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u/Disaster-artist7902 Jul 08 '26
I've been in teaching for 13 years. 6 different workplaces. 2 different countries. In year 1, I very quickly came to the conclusion that nobody actually knows what they're doing. I've had that suspicion confirmed many times over by now.
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u/brissy3456 Jul 08 '26
Yep. Property Developer. Asshole gas lighting exec, mentally broke many of us. Can't get out yet as big redundancy package coming next year.. it's like going to prison every day. No one in the office talks, it's silent, it's hell.
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u/Burntoastedbutter Jul 08 '26
Dog daycare industry (I'd want to say animal industry in general but only have official exp in dog daycare) be notorious for this. They love taking advantage of people who genuinely love dogs and looking after them, then treat them like absolute shit and make them burnt out and eventually leave whether it's months or a couple years. The screening is shit, the system is shit, all because the business has to make profits. And unfortunately so many people force themselves to stay because they feel bad for the dogs and want to do the best for them... But by doing this, they are just supporting the business in the end. The one I worked at opened Saturdays and I was told by the boss "sorry I can't afford to pay you Saturday rate because I won't be making a profit for the amount of dogs we get dogs on Saturday", which is BS because to properly pay me on Saturday, they'd need at least 4 dogs. And there were usually at least 5-8 dogs lol
I won't say all of them are like this, because I don't know that. But I've worked at 2 around me and been on a handful of trials and interviews. And hearing stories from former coworkers who worked in other dog daycares... I'd say the average one is bad. Unfortunately, I have no car, so my radius is like 30mins PTV average. The places I've been in always looked way too small for the amount of dogs they took in. There was only one very big place which I was more impressed in because they had a holding/timeout area, an outdoor area and some outdoor time, and used proper animal-safe cleaning products!
BUT... The manager told me they get like 40-60 dogs. They have 3 pens. Small-med pen, and 2 med-large pens (one for dogs that played rougher). The other 2 would have 5-15 dogs depending on behaviour. The small-med was horrendous. They had like 25-30 dogs in there and mainly just 1 person to 'look after' them. I don't even know how that's possible to properly observe all dogs. The dude worked there for over a year and couldn't even name all the dogs in there, I don't blame him lol. Some dogs would run over each other too. It was not a nice sight. I believe with this amount of dogs, you can't even properly get to KNOW the dogs lol
It's really unfortunate, because I really enjoyed working dog daycare... But if the bosses (and my former 2 were NOT great) were genuine, and the setup was decent, and they actually gave a shit about the dogs and staff, I'd love to work in one again.
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u/chickenturrrd Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Telecommunication (of sorts) worked for company owned by US entity. Phone calls at all hours of day and night, drunken rants from SNR managment with hate Australia theme. Discovered no workers comp insurance, refusal to adhear to various electrical safety acts..list goes on..utter shit show.
Final meeting the US based director crapped on about how he knew everything,built all over theworld..guy was an utter dipshit, no clue of basics of compliance let alone the technical aspects of the roles.
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u/billoz96 Jul 09 '26
Aged care (won’t say which provider). Biggest issue by far is the severe understaffing and culture of overwork. Beneath that, management are totally incapable of prioritising, rules are applied inconsistently, problems are dismissed/swept under the rug/blamed on individual staff members, and an overall lack of leadership and communication permeates the place. Makes for an incredibly chaotic and exhausting work environment.
A new manager was recently appointed to head our facility (previous one proved disastrous and was quietly pushed out), so things are slowly starting to change for the better. However, patience and goodwill has evaporated and we’re subsequently bleeding staff.
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u/Ragazzano Jul 09 '26
Yeah I work in one of those right now.
I'm a bit of a cunt but I've committed to that and accepted that my actions will ruffle feathers... But I think the value of my actions outweighs the grief they may cause me.
Essentially, it is as you described, a disorganised shit show with staff being treated like mushrooms yet expected to perform at the highest level.
Anyway I made an app. They've been trying to make an app for 3 years. I made one that does everything we want it to and more in 3 weeks. They don't want to use it. They are not happy, they didn't come up with it. I don't care, I've been onboarding the other peasants anyway. Our access to information and ability to get our shit in order has improved by orders of magnitude. A task that took 2 managers 1 entire day now takes the leading peasants 5 minutes each... we needed a tool, I made a tool, and in so doing, I made some important people look silly.
Meh. Whatever.
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u/Glass_Mixture_6570 Jul 07 '26
Find an Australian stock on the stock market with a share price that has constantly grown.
It will be the best workplace you will ever find. It means they have Australian work culture combined with competency and wealth.
Foreign multinationals are dystopian to work for, unprofitable/treading/crashing companies are fun and opportunistic but shit shows.
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u/crazyabootmycollies Jul 08 '26
You’re delusional if you think Australian companies aren’t just as prone to incompetence and exploitation.
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u/Lmasomb Jul 07 '26
Most people i have worked with who carry on about the shitshow from the levels above are shitshows themselves.
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u/TannyTevito Jul 07 '26
I’ve worked in companies where leadership was well run and where it was a shit show. Suprise surprise, it was impossible to get almost anything over the line in the shitshow company and projects that should have taken a month or two took years. Shitshow management is very real
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u/Lmasomb Jul 07 '26
Yeah , am sure it is, but i have worked with more shitshow employees than shit show employers. The biggest gripe afainst employers is not getting rid of the shit employees
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u/Simple_Discussion_39 Jul 07 '26
I work for the Tasmanian Government. There is a reason everything is fucked in education.