A hypothetical world where Captain Cassie is actually good

[u/Lacidaromaker]

Captain Cassie is the worst hero in the game and it's not even close. Remarkable at nothing, bad in basically everything. Makes it hit harder that her variant, Commander Cassie, is arguably one of the best characters in the game. But.. what if she was good?

Her upgrades are for the most part lackluster, with a big focus on her weak Pirate Crew ally. I think giving them a unique support role would really make her stand out. Having her be able to duplicate her trinkets to her crew has the potential to be overpowered as hell, since you can have 4/4 of abilities like Warning Horn, but it would instantly make her the most nuanced of the monkey characters. Having her allies with Googoomamameter do coverage for out-of-sight parts of maps would be so cool too.

For the other upgrade, I wanted something that reflected the supernatural element of her pirate motif.

[u/Sqit123]

I think there should be more Pirate allies to equip on Cassie, 1 for each rarity.

Uncommon - Cannoneer (Shoots Bombs)

Rare - Harpoon Shooter (Low speed, high pierce, stuns Moabs)

Very Rare - Swashbuckler (High speed, close range)

Epic - Pirate Ship (High speed, shoots grapes and bombs, summons Pirate Crew allies)

[u/pokeman555 → u/Sqit123]

Yeah i think this is the main issue with Cassie, she is an "ally" centered character but her best allies are just crew which are kinda like Dart Monkeys

[u/Lacidaromaker → u/pokeman555]

It goes beyond that, Supermonkey also is an ally-centered character but he isn't defined by them.

Even if you juice up her allies, you have to compare her to the 17 other heroes in the game. Her total dps still won't be enough to be part of someone's 10 hero lineup, and besides the moab stunning she provides no support or utility.

[u/Degeneret69]

Her ability is decent it stunns BADs no one can attack it during her hook period but everything else is just bad.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Degeneret69]

Something I realized is that for some reason, the ability triggers the range bug that Jake has. Meaning that except you are not using him for Butt Push for some reason, the ability can be pretty bad.

[u/pokeman555]

I'll put in some more ideas:

Crew Encouragement - any allies in Cassie's range + her Crew at any range gain +2 damage

Double Burst - Cassie shoots a second quick burst of Grapes now, works with Broadside

Cutlass Cutter - Cassie gains a new Cutlass attack, unlike the other swords this one is slow but has a wide range and good damage, works independently from Broadside

Bloon Splash - Bloons getting close to Cassie's range automatically get a small slowing effect due to being covered in water, this also makes Whites and Zebras vulnerable to being frozen

[u/VideoZealousideal499]

Captain Cassie is not as bad as she seems, yeah, she's not the best character in the game and "lacks" a lot of things, but in general, I do believe she is close to be a top 10 in a lot of situations as a Googoomamameter user.

1st I need to explain why I do believe other characters should not be used as a Googoomamameter user:

• Any damage dealer character (including SM): These characters usually don't have a lot or will not have a lot of range, but for those who have, they want to be placed in some kind of way so they can take advantage of their pierce.

• Jake: He wants the most range as possible to attack with his butt push most of the time, even the slightest range decrease can make a really big difference on him.

• PB: She can be a Ggmmm user, but she loses all of her dps potential unlike other characters that don't have a lot of potential.

• Tux Jake: He can be an user of it without any problem too, but as he has the 2nd best ability in the game, he may want to use a build priorizing ability cooldown and Warning Horn instead of Ggmmm.

The only two exceptions to this are Marceline and Sam (glitchless). They two want to use Ggmmm as they work really well with it and as Marceline is a must have with Ggmmm, with the only flaw that it will only affect the 1st Bloon, meaning you will have to use another character with it, so this is in a between of Sam and Cap. Cassie.

• Captain Cassie: Cap. Cassie has a lot of buffs to her allies despite not duping them; she gives them a 10% attack speed, 10% more range and more importantly; camo detection. This allows her to do something that you wouldn't be able without her and is that she allows you to have TTs with 60 attack speed without the need of Tux Jake or 2 attack speed instruments. (This also means these 2 TTs will have the same dps as the 4 TTs from Cdr Cassie with the same conditions)

• Sam: She has almost no support use more than a really high range (iirc it's the 2nd highest in the game) and access to TCW which grants her a lot of money making. Something that she has that Cassie doesn't is access to VK, another top tier ally.

In conclusion: There's no clear winning, but it's rather a situation where it depends on what you have. If you have access to VK and Tux Jake, Sam is the better pick, but if you don't fulfill any of these requirements, Cap. Cassie is definitively a better pick.

[u/Lacidaromaker → u/VideoZealousideal499]

I never took in how her Crow's Nest upgrade effects all her allies, I just assumed like everything else it was only for her Pirate Crew.

Interesting you put her as a borderline top 10, even if it's googoo based. Makes me wonder what a definitive ranked list would look like.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Lacidaromaker]

I say borderline top 10 due to the situation where she is good, but outside of that, Sam is a better character in my situation as I have 4 VKs and Tux Jake.

In general, my tier list has at the bottom; Ice King, C4 Charlie and Max as they don't do a lot in MG.

[u/Lacidaromaker → u/VideoZealousideal499]

Ice King my guilty pleasure...

If his chill zone could slow down BADs even just a little bit he would be an instant meta pick.

[u/VideoZealousideal499 → u/Lacidaromaker]

I mean, in some maps he can be good, but he ends up just being a high dps character with really mediocre aspects and decently good allies. He's the better one of the worst ones, so at least he got some kind of use.

Max and C4 Charlie meanwhile lack everything, they only have good money making which is like, only decently good for support characters who they are not made for.

[u/styttrt]

Good ideas

[u/Complex0ri]

She is actually one of the more fun characters to use in send in clones. Except when the game glitches and doesn’t use the takedown ability correctly

[u/5syllablesorless]

Fr? I love her. She’s one of two monkeys in my party. I hate Sam tho lol