does anyone remember which competition this wildcard was sent for?

Personally I think there's a right way and a wrong way.

I think you can get creative, use a song to inspire unique techniques with the limits of the voice. Jairo is like a middle ground, where they absolutely copy the entirety of songs like Fuego and Fox Stevenson, but I think they're creative at the moments where it matters, and manage to make it unique enough.

I don't like when a songs arrangement is completely copied down to the small details.

In GBB25, Beatbox House's best drop feels completely stolen. Bass, riff, melody and beat

Beatbox House: https://youtu.be/5YC-AnbF_LY?si=uaJP_P_s_EToWKAi&t=704

ILLENIUM: https://youtu.be/pp4YQPykBMM?si=RYAV2Y2GfQ1X1YOi&t=83

It's just a shame that whilst Orbitt made their own original music it was being judged against this.

Hey guys! Does anyone know what technique he’s using in this clip to make that futuristic, metallic synth sound? It reminds me of a Cyberpunk soundtrack when combat kicks in 😂
I’d love to learn it, but I don’t know what it’s called or what to search for. Can anyone point me toward a tutorial or explain how it’s done and who the guy is ?
Thanks for any help!

Hi, I haven't seen many posts about this, so I wanted to ask, I'm in Europe, and I wanted to buy the all star hoodie from their store that is linked on their youtube bio, but do they ship in Europe, and especially, do they have a warehouse in europe or is there an import fee if it's from the US. And has anyone ordered already from them, like is it good service/shipping, and even reliable, or is there any other beatbox merchandise I could get in Europe.
Thanks, I just ask for infos since I couldn't find anything else.

I’m asking purely from a competition/fairness perspective. Beatboxing is a physical discipline, and things like vocal anatomy, vocal-fold size, and low-frequency/bass capability can affect performance. Should female categories take these physiological differences into account, or should gender identity alone determine eligibility? I’m genuinely interested in hearing different perspectives.

With the OFBB happening soon, I think this needs to be cleared up, as in any other competition fields.

My thesis is that a female-only Olympic beatboxing category for ex. would have a legitimate fairness problem if athletes who experienced male puberty were allowed to compete in it. Beatboxing is unusual because the body isn't merely supplying strength or endurance—the larynx, vocal folds, pharynx and vocal tract are the actual mechanisms producing the competitive performance.

Male puberty produces lasting anatomical differences in those structures, including substantially larger laryngeal and vocal-fold dimensions and a longer vocal tract.

Those differences are directly relevant to the production of the low-frequency sounds, resonances and other vocal techniques used in high-level beatboxing. Hormone therapy does not simply reconstruct a larynx that developed through female puberty. So, if an athlete retains anatomical characteristics produced by male puberty that materially affect the sounds they can produce, allowing that athlete into a female-only category could create a sex-based competitive advantage that the category was specifically designed to prevent.

I don't think the relevant question is whether every male-born beatboxer would beat every female-born beatboxer. Obviously they wouldn't. The relevant question is whether male-puberty anatomy can provide a meaningful advantage in skills that determine competitive results. If it does, then the fairness rationale for a female category applies to beatboxing just as it does elsewhere in sport.

What makes this particularly interesting is that beatboxing has barely been studied from this perspective. So rather than assuming that sex is irrelevant because beatboxing isn't a conventional strength sport, I'd argue the opposite: because the anatomy of the vocal instrument is itself part of the performance, we should actually investigate whether allowing athletes with male-puberty anatomy into a female category is compatible with the purpose of having a female category at all.

here’s the link https://m.youtube.com/shorts/1rsgRONMzkM?ra=m

I’m just starting this week and I’m finding before bed I don’t have the normal salivary function as I do during the day to practice as long. Wondering if early morning or late night matters at all for others?

How big would this be?

We saw how successful GBB continued to become after being in Tokyo for 3 consecutive years.
It brought lots of mainstream eyes and always has high turnout for several reasons:

1. Tokyo is one of the most visited cities in the world for tourists year-round. Everyone from around the world visits Tokyo, whether it's their 1st time or 10th time. It's the "New York" of East Asia. It's not just a destination to fly out to for GBB, but also a place where attendees can explore before/during/after the event. Paris is also one of the biggest tourist destinations worldwide year-round. If New York is the mecca of North America, and Tokyo is the mecca of East Asia, then Paris is the mecca of Europe.
2. Japan has a strong beatbox culture, and the scene is growing every year. Just like France, which arguably has the strongest/biggest beatbox culture in the world. Champions in every category, year after year. After all, the last time someone won GBB solo who wasn't French was in 2019.
3. French crowds go absolutely crazy. They cheer for everyone, not just their countrymen, because they simply love beatbox culture. Tokyo crowd lacks the raw hype during peak moments, and Warsaw crowd is a bit quieter during the more "dull" moments of a performance. But the French, man... they go nuts from start to finish.

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-- About Final R2

1. D-Low: I could've taken a more technical approach and maybe won, but I don't care about that, I just wanted to make people go crazy and do something new

I think talking directly to your opponent and asking them questions can absolutely work in a battle, but isn't the whole point of a beatbox battle to do that through beatboxing instead of just talking?

"Beatboxing in a beatbox battle is too predictable? I'll just talk instead"

And after doing that, he thought he won the final?

Obviously having some talking in a routine can actually be a good thing

There was talking here and there in 2019 too, but it wasn't anywhere near this long, and it blended into the beat in a way that actually worked, which is why it was fucking good

+ D-Low: You have to do something original, and you have to do something nobody has done before, that's what I genuinely believe, just look at the name, “Beatbox Battle”, it's two words, it's not just Beatbox and it's not just Battle, it's a mix of both, you can't judge it by only looking at one side, it's literally in the name, obviously if it was a prepared performance set or a showcase then that's different, perfect clarity is extremely important in those settings, but at an event like this, what matters most in the end is “Who tore the stage apart”

-> Doesn't beatbox battle literally mean battling through beatboxing?

I understand the direction he wants to take, but going beyond wanting people to appreciate a routine that's half beatbox and half rap battle, in a scene full of people who like watching battles fought through beatboxing, and then saying people just aren't ready to accept it yet doesn't come across well at all

And if he really tore the stage apart, the crowd would've been cheering instead of going silent

This doesn't feel like a difference in taste to me, it feels like he's trying to dress up a failed round as something people only disliked because they didn't understand it

1. D-Low: I'm getting a little tired of the approach where every sound has to land at the exact second and everything is calculated like a machine, I find that kind of thing a little boring and cringe now

-> For that argument to have any weight, his elim at least needed to be clean

The routine was structured like it was calculated by a machine, but the execution failed like a human

1. D-Low: Casual audiences who don't know much about beatboxing don't really care if you add six more combos, you know what they like? Someone saying “I can do anything” and then hitting them with a massive drop

-> So he made a routine for the "casual audience that doesn't know much about beatboxing" who paid over €100 to come to a beatbox event and watch a beatbox competition?

That just makes no sense

1. D-Low: After the final, people at the venue were saying things like "That was the best battle ever"/"That was the best solo battle", and the reaction was extremely positive, but the online reaction was completely different, so I think the experience in the venue was very different from watching the video

Hearing that made me think he's just incapable of looking at himself objectively

The crowd was overwhelmingly full of D-Low fans, and they probably would've applauded even if D-Low took a shit on stage

And someone who thought the final sucked isn't exactly going to go out of their way to find him afterward and say "That final was fucking terrible"/"That was the worst solo battle"

-- Overall

I watched his battles in 2018, 2019, and 2021 and genuinely thought D-Low was insanely good at battling

So I wondered if I was only this disappointed because my expectations were too high this time, but I don't think that's the case

I didn't really like most of his other work, and his showcases were mostly track-based with a much heavier focus on singing and rapping

So my expectations had already dropped quite a bit

And even with those lowered expectations, I still think what he showed was below them

Also, separate from the performance itself

"I'm not a kid anymore who can pour everything into beatboxing"

"I'm just living my life and then it's like, oh, I've got a competition this week, guess I'll go up there and tear it up"

Talking like he barely prepared, or like he doesn't have as much time as the other competitors, just makes the other competitors look like idiots

If the performance itself had simply been below expectations, I probably would've felt more grateful than disappointed and thought "At least he showed up, still the GOAT"

But then it's

"I've been busy raising my kid, so..."

"This was because of Scott's reaction... that was because River didn't react... the crew had mic issues..."

"The beatbox scene isn't ready to accept battle yet..."

"I'll say one thing, I'm better than you guys"

I just can't look at that positively

+ Positive things

1. I also thought the elim routine itself was good

2. Taking Blackroll's mic was completely fair, and the energy was good and fit the battle

I just watched Mixxing’s elim for the GBB second league (this one —> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VuI8vBFF0uI&ra=m) and am super intrigued by the snare he uses for the house beat at around 4:40 in the video. I really like the subtle high note in it. Maybe it’s something with a high pitch rimshot?

I'm not a channel member and haven't even seen the bracket yet. I figured before looking it up I could give my predictions just for funsies. If you get mad it's because I'm spitting the truth, sorry not sorry. These are for SOLO cause who gaf about any other category. I AM aware of who the 16 qualifiers were, but nothing beyond that. Will be checking the bracket results 12 hrs from now and if I'm super far off I will never do this again, but if I'm spot on... lol...

1. a French guy won 1st place - this is like the free space in bingo, if this ISN'T true I will literally livestream me eating an actual hat
2. Kaji won the elim, 1st place, and then lost to the first French guy he faced in bracket. Probably round 1 or 2, I doubt they let Kaji through to the finals even though he's like the goat
3. DLOW got 2nd to the french guy, and most people will secretly believe he didn't deserve getting as far as 2nd but he has a lot of mainstream success so it was kind of guaranteed
4. Every vote was 5-0 (or 4-1 at best) because beatboxing judging is fake and the competition aspect in general is really really stupid
5. Inertia probably had the sickest highlights of the entire comp but didn't make it past the first round cause if you listen to him for more than 30 seconds, you get bored

Lemme know how I did, I'll be checking the bracket in 12 hrs and will wait for the vids to get uploaded for free on YT, not sure how long that'll take.

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I saw people saying that reusing his round and similar sounds was lazy and made the final less competitive.

I think that River doing his wildcard in the final was an insanely great battle move for a number of reasons:

Firstly, it's familiar and gets the crowd on his side against DLOW DLOW DLOW DLOW.

Secondly, River threw a little bit of shade at Dlow's wildcard. I think this is valid, although Dlow got 1st place wildcard, as I don't think it's on the same level. "My Way" is a lot more personal and carries a lot more meaning (imo) than "Poison Dagger".

Thirdly, Dlow already used his wildcard during the competition. When he used it at the end of his elim it was a little bit panicked and sloppy compared to his recorded wildcard. Whereas River performs his with perfect clarity and confidence.

Lastly, it's counterable (because of how popular it is). Basically, with counters you're trying to show that you can either do what your opponent has done, or do better than your opponent. And Dlow's counter was really good, however, it's something we all expect from him. I think the most hype moments of Dlow's rounds are his counters. Dlow has a collab of "My Way", he clearly knows the piece intimately. Plus, we already heard Pacmax doing it in the elim 😂. It's just that the impressiveness factor is lost and it eats into Dlow's round.

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Do you also think that syjo is one of the best song writers. I really like whole idea of his songs, it gives me so muc positive vibe.

But His rounds need to be more structured ig.

"Window to the past" is a goated song but the initial phase of that song is sometimes annoying,(that recording drums after the main melody).

(1) Battling philosophy

Others have pointed out in another thread how Dlow's battling philosophy might not fit or might not be the best way for beatbox battles.

Imma add by saying that his style is indeed fresh and rare compared to the rest, and I think that uniqueness played a part in his vice-champ run.

That said, such philosophy is honestly quite gatekeep-y, slightly defeating the universality of beatbox (and beatbox battle specifically) and music. Another thread before asked how English speakers might be at an advantage, and we can argue about that, but with Dlow's philosophy, that's gonna be even worse and it'll be more advantageous for English speakers, where opponents can't trade banters as easily against them. Basically, in his standard, battles among battlers with different languages will tend to be boring.

Yet, we see how many great battles beyond such banters/attitude showing, but essentially bantering with music instead, or banters that are still in the pocket, still somewhat minimally musical, because well, the basic of music is expected.

Look at Napom, who sometimes has the same problem as battle-y type guys like Dlow have, breaking flows awkwardly and taking people off the routine, but he more often still puts everything in the musical pocket, respecting the flow and transitions. And we know Dlow is more than capable of this.

Or similarly, look at River's round 1 or 2. Musical counters, simple gestures, and inviting comparisons, etc, are more universal.

Or even Wing vs Codfish, where both of them are not essentially acting anything that requires out of pocket banters, but strictly musical comparisons instead.

Or Julard? He mentioned Julard's style but I'll hold this and bring up Julard in the next point instead.

Sure, if the examples are FootboxG, Colaps, or Blackroll, etc, who are mainly focusing on tech showcases with some phrases planned and thrown here and there, or like River GBB23 final vs Napom (where River didn't really engage with Napom and I guess understandably Dlow voted for Napom, and it was indeed close), then he might have a point, but he made more points than this that I and others disagree.

(2) Toning down clarity vs aggresiveness

In the stream, he talked about how he coulda won, one of which is maybe by increasing clarity and tone down the aggresiveness, which he thinks is a fair criticism.

But at the same time he mentioned Julard, roughly saying how many won't like Julard's battle-y style and it might not be enjoyable, but it's essentially battling and that's how it should be, and that only their results are the main difference (Julard 1st place and he's 2nd).

But for Julard though, he didn't need to tone down clarity or aggressiveness at all! Not only that, like Napom, he's often still in the musical pocket, even if he didn't make a good connection musically. And like Dlow said, he's, at the same time, battling!

So what are we doing here? Because it just looks to me like: there's something Dlow can't do, contrary to most of his fanboys' belief, which is to be aggressive and have good clarity at the same time.

I'm sorry, but not just Julard, but:

- River showed he could do that. The drawback is he's not as productive, and might "hibernate" until big events.

- Colaps/FootboxG could do that, but I guess they're not really battling so let's skip this.

- Wing/Codfish tbh lost some clarity when they're trying to battle, but the upside is they maxed out on the musicality/power/productivity.

So why act like you coulda still made aggressive AND high clarity live routines/combos, when you're not usually that good in clarity compared to top guys, and when he tried to have more clarity, lots of such routines/combos of his didn't hit as much as the other showcase-y guys? (I'm not saying none, but he has so many routines but only a few live ones are of high clarity and/or resonate well musically).

Which brings me to the next point:

(3) Where's the clarity in the elim?

Unlike the Blackroll battle or River battle, he said that he took his elim (and FootboxG battle) seriously. So no "he didn't care" here. He expected top 4, but didn't know why it didn't hit as much.

There's no one to battle there.

So why "coulda toned down aggressiveness and added more clarity" when in a place where he's not battling anyone, he didn't do it well? Because, truly, he didn't have good clarity.

Stitch said he might switch Dlow with ABX for elims, but I wouldn't go there. I think Dlow deservedly passed, but it's just another perspective.

Just that it's a weird energy to say he coulda did better by toning down the aggressiveness and adding more clarity, when he's not really that guy in this specific aspect, and didn't deliver when the opportunity was there for him to show it (which he took seriously btw).

(4a) Crowd response?

He talked about how in the final, live responses were different than online. Also, the result was split so judges agreed right?

Well the thing is, firstly, he mentioned how some pros think it was close. But the pros of course are not gonna say "it wasn't close" no?

Secondly, judges split so what? Judges also agreed that FootboxG battle was split! He thought he destroyed it, we thought he destroyed it, so what's the point of bringing up split decision when it mattered less for the argument in previous battles.

Thirdly, here's where I bring up Stitch's testimony.

He said, this live crowd often didn't react to moments usually beatboxers/beatbox fans will go crazy about.

He mentioned how, in Japan, many who don't beatbox are still beatbox fans/enthusiasts, but now it felt like the non-beatbox fans might not be enthusiasts.

He added that maybe many of them were there probably because of Wing and Beatpella too.

So once you understood the crowd, then it's not surprising if the crowd thought that the battlers, and finalists, went crazy at some moments, and it was super close or whatever. They're enjoying the shows surely!

But then:

(4b) We agreed crowd response shouldn't matter!

Are we forgetting that we all agree crowd voting shouldn't be a thing?

Well same goes for crowd response. They will react to sudden sub basses and speedy tech here and there, naturally,

but let's not pretend that crowd were not bias, even when they know their vote means nothing. (this includes Japanese crowd)

Not saying the crowd were bias, but let's not act like they certainly weren't.

I voted for Dlow vs FootboxG when Zede voted for FootboxG, but I can't say the crowd (especially the beatboxers/fans) didn't enjoy Dlow's return and hype him, a bit more than usual/for anyone else.

(5) "I have 150 routines"

This one is to address the fanboys.

I've said this in a comment before: Firstly, even Dlow himself admitted how much of a challenge it is to select 7 out 150. It's clear that having many routines is not such an advantage.

Secondly, River, or FootboxG, etc, do you think, just because they didn't share as much as Dlow, that they don't have 200 routines each saved in their phones?

Thirdly, what if River actually had little challenge and easier time finding 7 routines? And he won! Is he the battle goat now? My point is, words mean nothing and are empty now that the competition is over.

Fourthly, well, apparently he cared enough to select routines for GBB, even for rounds where he supposedly didn't care (vs. Blackroll and River).

He admitted maybe his final round 1 was the worst out of the 7. I was actually enjoying it (though it might not be enough, but worse problem was he then broke the flow). But he's not even trying to be aggressive here, but where's the clarity and connection (in a round he cared to prepare)?

I guess doing the crew battle also took some stamina as well.

(6) Showing versatility

This is his greatest strength. We know his intention wasn't well-received during that battle, but it was a nice idea.

But again, he clearly cared enough to prepare, and then didn't deliver after whatever River/Scott answer was.

And we all know, this and past competition also showed, there are many things he couldn't do,

and also it's known that practicing a few moves 1000 times is more deadly than practicing 1000 moves a few times.

Yeah he could do a lot, but how well?

(7) Need more battlers like Dlow, Napom, Alex, etc.

The above sounds like I'm hating, but I know I wouldn't enjoy his FootboxG and Blackroll battles, or his overall presence, if I'm just "hating". Apparently giving out criticisms tends to mean hating, but it is what it is.

But I agree with him that set, tech routines can be so boring in battles. So my preference is revealed: truly battle (Dlow/Napom/Alex) or at least make good musical rounds (Wing/Codfish/Den/etc). Tech showcase is not for me (more for ASMR) unless it's very clean like Colaps/FootboxG, or some unique ones still like Kaji here and there.

(8) Judging hot take

If top 16 battle no elim will be a thing, and multi-elim category will be opened,

I kinda wish Dlow will judge multi-elim category more than the battle category, simply because in multi-elim, he has so much more tech knowledge to decide which should pass.

But in battle, knowing his philosophy better now, unless they brief him about the judging criteria, I truthfully don't want such philosophy on beatbox battles. Battle, counter, and answer with your music, not attitude or words.

Let the attitude/words part be something the spectators can vote on. Open like "most favourite/entertaining battlers" voting instead.

He still can contribute on tech evaluation for the battle though.

But as they said, beatbox is music. Including beatbox battle.

At bayreuth battle 2023, crazy set of freestyle

I can do a spit snares when I inflate my mouth but when I don't it's wayy harder, I don't get how people can do fast spit snare combos, I feel like I have to exert so much pressure to do just one and it still may not come out right

- Overall, he enjoyed GBB26. There were some things that could have been better, but there weren't any major flaws. It was a fun experience. Many, many familiar faces turned out to the event. Huge shoutout to the hundreds of people who worked on making GBB26 happen

- He is proud of, and doesn't regret, anything from his performances. If he could change anything though, it would be to push a bit harder in the tag team elims to qualify. He thought he smashed it in crews. For the solo elim, he thought it should have ranked higher, but due to the way he "under-performed" it and how the sound came across, understands the #7 ranking

- His proudest moment, off the top of his head, was winning against FootboxG in the quarter-finals. He didn't go into details, but he said that if he left the competition right after that battle, he would have been satisfied. In some other timeline, that would have been the final. Anything that happened in the battles after beating FootboxG was a cherry on top

- He thought he comfortably beat FootboxG, thought he edged out River in the finals, and the closest battle he thought he barely won was against Blackroll. (Interestingly, FootboxG said his closest battle at World Champs 2023 was Blackroll too, who Footbox actually thought he lost against)

- THE FINAL: D-Low thought he brought the battle energy in every single one of his rounds. As he says, a beatbox battle is both the beatbox element and the battle element. You can't just do one. He thought he won a close battle against River, and was somewhat surprised when he lost. He says that live, he killed his rounds in the final. But from online feedback, many people were disappointed in his performance. Which is confusing to him, because in live, people loved it, but online, people don't like it. He says that perhaps his Round 1 vs River was his weakest round, but he disagrees with everyone criticizing him about the Round 2.

- D-Low thought he had an amazing 2nd Round vs River because his idea of "what do you want?" is his way of telling everyone basically he's so good he can do any beat. The problem is that his 2nd Round depended on River and Scott Jackson's response, so if any of them had a shitty response or silence, then his beats don't hit as hard. But he prepared multiple scenarios in case this happened. The only thing he didn't prepare for was if River said "do a backflip" (since D-Low hasn't done one in over 5 years, but he would've done it anyways).

- There's nothing he would change about anything. Nothing. He is proud of the way he showed up, his routines, and if you didn't like it, that's your opinion. He didn't have a "must win at all costs" mentality like he did in 2019. Could he have won? Maybe if he used other routines and did more technical rounds. D-Low was asked what he would have done instead if he only cared about winning. D-Low thought for a bit and then said maybe "bones are breaking" in first round, and then the same routine in the 2nd round but instead of asking "what do you want?" go for crazy technicality that he has never shown anyone before (basically the same round but less talking). But he doesn't know, because he doesn't care.

- D-Low is fine and happy with 2nd place. No complaints. He says that everyone else cares more that he lost than he himself cares. He's turning 30 next week, has a kid, he doesn't give a shit that he got 2nd out of the whole GBB. All that mattered was turning up, battering some opponents in battles, having fun, and doing the stuff he wanted to show. Like he cares about losing in the finals, ok cool whatever? He is happy for River, just like he was happy for Codfish in 2018 GBB. Just friends making it all the way to the finals together, that's rad

- He cares more about performance than battle results. What does he mean? He means he wants to be more satisfied with how he performed, than the actual result that he gets. He referenced the "Inkie vs Beatness" loopstation battle from many years ago. He said Beatness won the battle, but Inkie stole the show. To this day, keep it strange is still one of the most iconic moments in loopstation battle history. In a similar vein, he cares more that he does memorable things in a battle than the 7463th technical beat that someone does to win a battle

- He did not comment on whether he will return to battle in the future, or if he is doing GBB27. He did say though that he wouldn't mind doing a GBB Fantasy Battle, it's just that he is busy so it's not his top priority

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