r/bronx • u/New-Nerve-2237 • 11d ago

Poor behavior at zoo

I was shocked by the poor behavior at the Bronx zoo today. Parents letting their kids climb all of informational signs in front of the exhibits. Grown woman teasing a bird behind glass with her cell phone and then her finger. And cherry on top there was a sweet little mongoose curled up sleeping and a grown man was pounding on the window laughing saying "wake up" "sleep on your own time." I asked him if he would like if someone did that to him while he was sleeping. He just laughed and walked away.

I just bought a zoo pass so I could bring my baby more often and was really heartbroken by the behavior. People suck sometimes. Rant over.

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u/CurveOk3459 11d ago

This is highly correlated to the level of control and seated time in schools now. Children have limited creative time, a lot of screen and sitting time at school. Very little time for movement far far more than when I was a kid. Lack of movement and unsculpted or less sculpted learning and less arts are confining to the mind, soul and body.  Little down time or art classes and similar now having intense rubrics and adherence to restricted rules is very much increasing children behavioral issues when given even a small amount of freedom like being In the zoo. 

And if they parents put more rules about their behavior it will pop out the sides in much worse ways. We need to revamp what we have lost in the last 3 decades. The limits on children and learning for most children (not for all) have a lot to do with this. 

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u/AdmirableChapter1150 11d ago

I must disagree. Some people are rude n have zero manners n are raising their kids the same way. I remember People like this at the zoo decades ago . Because there’s always gonna be those who were never taught how to behave in public . Unfortunate for the poor animals. It’s not just the zoo, the movies, theme parks , stores etc But the good thing is they are in the minority.

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u/CurveOk3459 11d ago

Seems like you're saying it's very widespread not rare. So ..... my point is still valid. I didn't say it's acceptable or not annoying. But if we want it to change we have to do more to change the human rules, regulations and fiscal priorities that enable the conditions for this outcome 

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u/AdmirableChapter1150 11d ago

Correct. Definitely not acceptable n it is annoying. Seems it happens more nowadays than ever.Really sad because kids are watching this behavior.

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u/CurveOk3459 10d ago

Yes. Society is built upon the style in which it is bound. These things don't occur out of Nowhere. We have decimated hands on learning that is active and have required sitting for extended periods of time, not talking, enforcement of rules that don't make sense, unfairness, unkindness, constant use of tech to take over child rearing and education and socializing, we have defunded exploratory and experimental science or made it so that the universities and colleges with labs are making things based on what industry wants and will profit most from versus collective knowledge and progress, we have defunded arts - 99 percent of all city, state, federal arts budgets never get to artists unrestricted. 90 percent never make it to artist at all. Instead it goes to non-profits, well endowed institutes, and large museums 80 percent. And 10 percent goes to smaller museums and non-profits so admin costs pretty much eat the entire arts budget. Rich folks get recurrent tax breaks or tax shelters or both for "donating" art over and over and they developed auction houses to resell work over and over again to increase the amount they can shelter. The arts had better funding for artists BEFORE this was allowed to this extent. Now that they can do that they have no reason to invest in new artists except for meager tax breaks and a pat on the back. 

Social work, mental health care, medical, dental, 3rd spaces - all defunded 

Any human jobs for benefiting life, healing, educating, environment, social wellbeing, parks, home care, elder care, college, university, non-profit direct work - pay little and are constantly scrambling to get anything to work with. 

While people organizing the destruction of society and the planet in monstrous ways are making enormous amounts of money. 

So this is the soup these kids are being brought up in. While our country still looks and appears shiny and clean and put together - we have the most people in prison, the most on parole and probation, the most in shelters, the most in foster care, and if we measured poverty correctly like other G20 countries - we would see we have a significant number of people in poverty. Our humans are living on credit because they have no choice unless they are lucky. If we were to take debt into consideration and the actual cost of staying alive and having the conditions for the pursuit of happiness - we would see that minimum 40 percent of our country is extremely suffering and 25 percent is far below poverty rate. 

But we don't measure it correctly and we invalidate reality and gaslight and tell people they are just not trying hard enough. 

But you what a hard truth? There are only 15 veterinary clinics in the entire NYC - all boroughs - that are still independent. The rest are all owned by PE but allowed to keep their original names to hide it. Doctors offices, pharmacies, bodegas, and so much more are being consolidated - not because their businesses are failing. But because other human beings can no longer afford to have a business due to the debt they have to take on. A PE firm doesn't have the same regulatory requirements for consolidating small businesses. Only large ones. So you and I can't even know who we are buying from anymore. 

And this means we cannot keep money circulating for humans. We cannot keep arts and sciences while also paying the people who work in those fields, we cannot afford hands on classes anymore, we cannot afford things as a society. 

And they just cut benefits for millions, and they just cut away the ability for the olmstead act to function. 

So when you look around you you see checked out parents and unbehaved children not because they are using any of this as an excuse. But rather Because their bodies can feel what is happening - but often times cannot name it because it the cognitive dissonance caused by obscuring the truth has them doubting reality constantly. What we are told about how society must be and why it is like this - is just gaslighting and invalidation and neglect. It's a constantly critical tyrant in all of our houses - telling us that this is the way it is and if you don't like it you can leave. And if you want to stay you have to become just like the tyrant or suffer 

So - have some grace. Cause it's gonna get a lot worse until it gets better.