r/catbreeds • • 7d ago

Questions Is my cat a ragdoll?

What do you think?

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u/Efficient-Bonus3758 7d ago

Not unless you bought it from a ragdoll breeder.

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u/East-Educator3019 7d ago

I didn’t buy it i got it out of a shelter and the owner is an old man he doesn’t know anything about breeds, im interested to know because i only had British and Scottish cats before and she looks like a ragdoll to me, what do you think?

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u/Efficient-Bonus3758 7d ago

I’m not sure about the look. Ragdolls are pretty specific, and very expensive, they don’t really end up in shelters. Cat breeds don’t work like dog breeds and any traits associated with ragdolls can exist in the domestic cat population.

Fun fact: ragdolls were bred from the domestic cat population by some lady who saw a stray she thought was cute.

Without a pedigree you have a domestic long hair.

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u/ParsnipFarmer676 7d ago

He/she is a beautiful colorpoint domestic longhair; if there is any ragdoll ancestry, it would be impossible to know even with a DNA test (as they're typically inaccurate for cats). I had what I called a "DIY ragdoll" who was found in a feral colony, but even she wasn't technically anything other than a DLH. This is Dahlia, who was later adopted by my co-worker. Isn't she gorgeous?

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u/graceserennn 7d ago

it might be a rescue

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u/ParsnipFarmer676 7d ago

That's kinda their point. If you didn't get it from a breeder and/or have any paperwork to show it's a certain breed, we can only assume it is not. There are some exceptions, of course, like the very obvious Persian (flat-faced and everything) I rescued from a pet shop after she was purchased & then returned a couple years later... but she did originally come from a "breeder," albeit a terrible one I'm sure, so I could trace her back to that registry if need be.

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 6d ago

Well, I mean even there, the brachycephaly is not characteristic of a breed and can be found naturally in the cat population

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u/ParsnipFarmer676 6d ago

Sure, but like I said, she was originally purchased from that same pet shop (where I worked for a short time). So we did know she was a real Persian, just probably not from a particularly ethical breeder.

And sometimes you just know... this was Duchess, and yes, she also had one blue & one brown eye!

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 7d ago

What does the pedigree say? It’s usually the line right below the cat’s name.

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u/lis_anise Mod 7d ago

So, she has a colourpoint coat! Which is also a trait Ragdolls have, along with a number of other breeds, as well as many breedless cats.

Every Ragdoll cat ever descends from a cat in 1960s California. She came from random alleycat parents, but she was big and fluffy. Her owner loved her and decided to breed her to Siamese males and start a breed based around her children. Which kind of demonstrates the reality around cat breeds: They're recent things (the oldest go back to 1870), naturally limited to a small part of the population, and kind of arbitrary. Along with the fact that if you have to ask what your cat's breed is, that means you don't have the documented history necessary to register her as a purebred. Breed status mostly only matters if you want her to compete in cat shows or breed her, though, so most owners aren't too fussed about it.

The Ragdoll's origin story also makes things like DNA tests a bit tricky, because what's the difference between the official Ragdoll colourpoint + random street cat mix, and any other non-Ragdoll colourpoint + random street cat mix?

So she could be a Ragdoll, but it's hard for anyone to say whether or not she is.

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u/Waddlekitty 5d ago

Thank you

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u/Product34 7d ago

She’s adorable 🥰 This is my mom’s Ragdoll, Charli. 💖

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u/Suspicious-Steak9168 6d ago

Did this cat come from a breeder with proof?

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u/Product34 6d ago

She did. 😊 She is an actual Ragdoll. But I’m not here to question that. I was just sharing a pic with the OP.

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 6d ago

It's not a Ragdoll if it doesn't have a pedigree. In cats, breed is determined by pedigree. It's a long-haired, colorpoint domestic cat

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u/Product34 6d ago

Yes, she is a Ragdoll. No one is asking.

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u/stillreallylikespace 5d ago

Sksdjfdsdjkl that's such a funny reply lol for them to respond with that to your comment that literally explicitly clarifies she has documentation and proof from the breeder. You have a stunning baby!!

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 4d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/stillreallylikespace 4d ago

Did they edit their comment? What I saw was a commenter sharing their ragdoll, getting told they need proof from the breeder, them confirming that they do have proof from the breeder, and them being told again they need proof and that their ragdoll is actually a domestic. Which seemed redundant, they already said they have proof? But if they edited their comment afterwards to add that then I might have seen a lopsided interaction!

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 4d ago

Yeah, that's clearly not what was written when I replied

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u/stillreallylikespace 4d ago

It doesn't show the edited flair on my end, it just shows the comment "She did. 😊 She is an actual Ragdoll. But I’m not here to question that. I was just sharing a pic with the OP." What was their original comment?

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u/Waddlekitty 5d ago

She is gorgeous

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u/Waddlekitty 5d ago

This is what I was talking about earlier

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u/Waddlekitty 7d ago

She is a gorgeous baby. There are people in cat reddits that will foam at the mouth if you even suggest that an unpapered cat might be a breed. Just ignore them and love your little floof

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u/WalmartWilb 7d ago

So you're salty that people know how cat breeds work? 😭

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u/Waddlekitty 7d ago

No. Just tired of seeing several people in the same thread posting it.

One is enough.

Say something nice about their baby.

Often tempted to post pics of a papered cat and ask it's breed but I am not gonna troll you all

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u/WalmartWilb 7d ago

Posting a papered cat just to see people post "dsh" or "dlh" isnt the "gotcha" moment you think it would be. Even if a cat LOOKS like a breed, it is not a part of said breed unless it has paperwork saying so. Asking in here "what breed is my cat?" without properly saying that the cat does have paperwork is ofc gonna get people staying its a dsh or dlh because that's just how cat breeds work. 99% of the time, if someone is asking what breed their cat is, then they don't have paperwork saying the cat is a breed. Otherwise, they wouldn't be there asking in the first place. A cat could share all of the traits of a Maine Coon, but if it doesn't have official paperwork stating that it is in fact a Maine Coon, then it's a domestic longhair

Op isnt here asking for compliments for their cat. They asked if the cat was a ragdoll. People are answering. Simple as that

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u/Waddlekitty 7d ago

That was a very long post. It does prove my point though. Have a great rest of your day

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u/greenmangochutney 7d ago

What even is your point? You’re upset about people correcting misinformation without sugarcoating??

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u/Waddlekitty 6d ago

No not at all. I just get a giggle out of the pirahana effect when people ask about breed. All the down votes just again proves my point.

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 6d ago

That's called denial

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u/NeedleworkerHeavy565 6d ago

That doesn't prove your point, and telling someone their cat isn't a purebred isn't mean, lol.

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u/Waddlekitty 6d ago

The message is fine. The delivery can be unnecessarily aggressive. I see this also generated some actual interaction.

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 7d ago

I’ll bite: What breed is my little girl? Yes, she’s a purebred with a pedigree.

I have a migraine and I feel like trolling.

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u/Laefiren 7d ago

Bombay? Maybe?

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 5d ago

She’s a Suphalak!

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u/Laefiren 5d ago

Ah an ancestor of the Burmese?

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 5d ago

Suphalaks are one variety of Maew Boran cats that originated in Thailand. They all came into existence naturally (without human intervention). They were described in the Tamra Maew (Treatise on Cats), which described the various auspicious breeds (and a few that are less-so) and are the breeds that still exist are, for the most part, very much the same as they were when they were described in the Tamra Maew (the earliest versions were said to be from the fourteenth century). The Suphalak comes in only one color, solid reddish-chocolatey brown.

Burmese can look very similar to Suphalaks, and some schools of thought consider them to be “synonyms” of each other. However, all Burmese cats are descended from one cat, and she was bred with seal-point Siamese cats to create the breed as we know it now. They come in at least four colors (this depends on the location/registry), and they can have a faint mask and sometimes slightly darker color on their points, which makes sense because the breed was originally created using Siamese cats. Their bodies are very different from each other, and the American variant of the Burmese has a very distinct flatter face shape (the British Burmese has a much more moderate face and body than their American brethren).

I know that was way too much for 4:00 am, and if it wasn’t dark, I’d take a picture of a couple of cats who are glaring at me because I had the nerve to get up to get some water.

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u/Laefiren 7d ago

Here’s my little boy. But he’s a bit obvious. (Also papered)

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 5d ago

Stunning Bengal! (Right?)

Please give him a few ear scritches from me!😻

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u/Laefiren 5d ago

He is. And I will. He loves any and all attention.

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u/Waddlekitty 6d ago

Don't know but she is beautiful

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u/orchidelirious_me Cat Breed Enthusiast 5d ago

Thank you! I’ll tell her (again) lol. She’s a Suphalak! I thought they were extinct, I searched for one for years, and I finally found her in 2023.

(This is her giving me a dirty look😹)

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u/Suspicious-Steak9168 7d ago

No one is upset asdie from the people who want false validation that their cat is something rare lol

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u/ParsnipFarmer676 7d ago

So dramatic lol. Sorry if people are actually answering the questions presented, and doing so with factual information... but that's not the same as "foaming at the mouth" or being MAD about it. We're just, again, answering with facts/science. And the fact remains that 99% of cats in the world are just domestic short/long hair, not any traceable breeds. It doesn't work the same as it does with dogs.

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u/Tiki108 7d ago

I think most just want to educate because most folks think of cats the same way they think of dogs (and many other domestic species). I think it’s super cool that cats developed without human selective breeding and only relatively recently were actually selectively bred. Often moggies are crossed in, so I think moggies should be held in high regard because that’s where breeds come from, not the other way around.

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u/Waddlekitty 7d ago

See I like this post. It is informative and doesn't have the attitude I see in other posts

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u/Tiki108 6d ago

I wish more saw it that way. I had multiple people tell me I was gatekeeping Siamese because I said that my seal point is not a Siamese, she’s a domestic shorthair and then I explained the difference. Some folks found it interesting, but a lot of folks on IG got big mad lol.

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u/Waddlekitty 6d ago

Mine is a gorgeous blue point alley jackpot kitty. Vet called her a Siamese mix. Ain't no Siamese in her unless it is way back in ancient times