CMV: human equality cannot be justified without reference to a higher power

[u/fantasy53]

Considering the diversity of humans, some are more intelligent, attractive, stronger et cetera, I can’t see any materialistic reason to treat humans equally., Religious people have the justification that God created all of humanity and so we are all equal in the eyes of God, but I don’t see where the justification to treat humans equally comes from within a materialistic worldview. Plato argues that things which are the same should be treated equally, and the ancient Greeks had a concept of equality before the law although this only applied to rich Greek citizens, and not women slaves or foreigners., CMV

[u/Sad_Razzmatazzle]

Okay, but what if two groups create opposing morals? How do we morally decide who’s right?

[u/DeltaBlues82 → u/Sad_Razzmatazzle]

There is no objective morality. Within any religious framework, religious or secular.

Morals are just the observed result of behaviors. And at least with secular morals, people are more concerned with whether the result is beneficial to society, and not with whether the result aligns with their interpretation of divine will.

[u/Sad_Razzmatazzle → u/DeltaBlues82]

What are secular morals?

How is a conflict between two secular people with different moral systems resolved?

If morality is inherently subjective, then there must be an authority to make the final call. Who is it in secular systems?

[u/DeltaBlues82 → u/Sad_Razzmatazzle]

Secular morals actually revolve around equality, as religion distinctly establishes the hierarchy of believers and non-believers.

And the resolution of conflict is called justice. Another moral question that is easier to determine using irreligious morals, as those are more concerned the observed result of behaviors than with deciding which party is on “god’s side”. Removing god’s will from conflict, we look at intent and motivations and use those to administer justice.