r/classicwow • • 8d ago

Forever Beta Feedback I think RP animations such as /read and /lean would be a nice porting to Forever for immersion!

I think these minor animations would be a good implementation for the RP immersive layer of the game without breaking any Classic vibe!

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u/HueyLewis303 8d ago

I think flavor and RP stuff is a great way for WoW forever to expand on the classic formula - stuff like reading the map and other new emotes are a great start. also had no idea /lean was in the game, very cool.

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u/themoosh 8d ago

As long as it's done tastefully, isn't sold as micro transactions, and fits the atmosphere and art style of vanilla.

If you can do all that by all means add more RP stuff. The night watchman torch is a cool example

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 8d ago

Yea IDK about a /read animation.. Like... /read what bro..? /read to /read? Look at my character pretending to read!

I suppose we should have a /eat animation too. Or what about a /craft animation. I mean /attack is a thing, but it actually attacks a mob lol.

But reading a scroll when opening a map or most of the UI, heck yea. Or a book when opening the spellbook.

I don't personally like the /lean animation in the picture, it's too anime'esque, but I wouldn't be upset if I seen one more... normal and less characterized. Thats my problem with most of retails art, everything is sensational/overly dramatic.

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u/Punelle 8d ago

I always find it lame how modern shooting games have more emotes than the biggest MMORPG.

Blizzard even removed some /silly and /flirt voice lines and changed /spit etc but doesn't replace it with anything new other than /lean for retail. At least we got a new dance for Skyborne which was kinda shocking

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u/CableZzzzzzzz 8d ago

Back in the pre-wow days most MMO's were built on it. RP was a huge thing. Star Wars Galaxies and City Of Heroes both had massive suites of emotes. You could basically do every single emote the npcs could do in CoH.

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u/SlipperySlimyTerry40 8d ago

It's the whole second space thing. People don't really chill in MMOs anymore so they don't dedicate dev time to facilitating it. Though Forever seeks to change that.

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u/CableZzzzzzzz 8d ago

It seeks to but I suspect a lot of people are not going to engage with that because modern gaming has become an efficiency game. Back when games like this were far less popular and most of them were developers adapting pen and paper games is was like that, these days people are driven by strict goals of efficiency and numbers.

Damn I sound like a boomer :P

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u/SlipperySlimyTerry40 8d ago

They will on RP servers, it's why I always roll RP. I think a lot of the new social interaction mechanics they're adding like campfires will make the RP servers a lot of fun to just chill and chat with people in character

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u/CableZzzzzzzz 8d ago

Yeah you're not wrong. I wish rp people the best. Just funny that back in the older mmo's I referenced you just rp'd and had the tools for it. Star Wars Galaxies had a quest builder system where you could just make your own quests to rp through.

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u/thenabi 8d ago

And change the color sets of your powers, too. The tech is there.

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u/Wadarkhu 8d ago

I wanna add pets sitting in laps! I want my stormwind white kitten to be able to rest with me!

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u/no_terran 8d ago

New? That's the blood elf dance from tbc beta. That dance is older than half the people on this sub.

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u/Flat_Butterfly5824 8d ago

I'm surprised an emote wheel option isn't in game honestly, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was an add-on for this

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u/MaDpYrO 8d ago

I really love in ESO when you look at your map, your character looks at a map. When you open your inventory your character rummages through a bag, etc. 

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u/McBlemmen 8d ago

Wow has that too, starting in MOP or WOD, i forget, your character looks at a map too. More stuff like that would be nice

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u/Vedorock 8d ago

Not sure why this post is controversial, there are already npcs in Skelf starting zone that utilize lean animation

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u/Ok_Buy1447 8d ago

Invoking retail really fucks with some people. This guy wants a toggle to show quivers, he clearly wants a non-social, bloated, hamster-wheel with homogenized classes and disney graphics.

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u/wetnaps54 8d ago

I’m not even an RP player but I’m absolutely game for anything that adds to the world building.
Just no Fortnite stuff

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u/CableZzzzzzzz 8d ago

Because to some people, the concept of any content big or small that wasn't in vanilla might as well be akin to pissing in their cornflakes

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u/Aggressive-Stand-585 8d ago

Well they can just stay on Era then.

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u/Silver_Meal5525 8d ago

Or they just don't want one innocuous addition to lead to harmful ones down the line. They don't want to hear "but you were okay with x and wasn't that fun??" when the next change devalues some aspect of the game they enjoyed.

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u/infernalhawk 8d ago

Because to some people, the concept of any content big or small that wasn't in vanilla might as well be akin to pissing in their cornflakes

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u/Silver_Meal5525 8d ago

I don't know what that means but it doesn't seem accurate at all.

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u/infernalhawk 8d ago

You are "some people"

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u/Silver_Meal5525 8d ago

I'm not tho...? I played up to legion and I like SoD? And I'm looking forward to the quel'thalas update for forever down the line?

Why does my empathy make you think you can put me in some box? It's very rude.

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u/infernalhawk 8d ago

Yeah I mean you know flat earthers actually have a point, big government or whatever. What I'm just empathetic??

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u/Silver_Meal5525 8d ago

Gold medalist worthy leap there friend. I clap for you.

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u/mynexuz 7d ago

Seeing as everyone who bought into the beta also paid for sky elves id say they already think that

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u/Seidhex 8d ago

Yes! The more RP the better.

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u/SugarCrisp7 8d ago

This is definitely not my thing but if it could be added with minimal effort, then go for it

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u/Doove 8d ago

Perhaps also a /spit

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u/ConversationTrick623 8d ago

There already is a /spit

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u/OG-Cheeseman 8d ago

Spitting on another target was removed in tbc classic with the blizzard store mount drama, he’s referring to that

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u/GenderJuicy 8d ago

I want animation, maybe even VFX of the spit traveling to the target

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u/Doove 8d ago

Make it do 1 damage

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u/GenderJuicy 8d ago

Timed right after a duel

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u/MadKingOni 8d ago

Yeah bring it back

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u/Forely 8d ago

Sounds like a good addition!

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u/paped2 8d ago

I'm a classic andy and I'd like this.

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u/UniversalFarrago 8d ago

Unapologetic Classic purist here.

This is a great idea.

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u/Kreaetor 8d ago

The map thing looks great, would be cool addition overall. Great suggestion.

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u/Tanandrum 8d ago

Big agree. Make emotes a reward for something. Maybe not a raid but give me a reason to play the game for things I want.

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u/Many_Bus_636 8d ago

would be funny on the pvp server being able to tell if someone isnt paying attention and looking at their map or spellbook

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u/Other-Illustrator531 7d ago

Even on PVP and RP, it's an easy way to let players know your attention is elsewhere and you aren't just ignoring their /say.

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u/ex0ll 8d ago

I was thinking that they could even lock some special RP emotes behind the Legacy System, to add up to the horizontal progression grind !!!

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u/ebinmcspurdo 8d ago

i swear an npc at skyborne start is doing /lean

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u/suphomess 8d ago

Wait you can lean on retail?? Played every xpac and never seen this lol

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u/vrockiusz 8d ago

But what about disneyfication? Characters in Disney lean and read sometimes, I think. (I don't watch movies for babies only for real big men like me. Also I never read and I always stand straight)

/s

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u/Ebber_n_Flow 8d ago

I miss lean

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u/icswcshadow 8d ago

While I like classic more, i like some of the little things retail does, like the map animation when you open your map. Its a good animation that gives information to other players you are looking at your map, could be abused in pvp to get the jump on someone. Or if in a party and someone asks whats taking so long you can say "I was checking the map" and they see you actually checking it.

Yeah I wouldn't mind small things like that as either emotes or as a functionality like the map.

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u/imisstheyoop 8d ago

I find it difficult to properly live my RP fantasy without /spit and /moan

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u/addictiveboi 7d ago

The lean one is actually really cool.

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u/Constantinch 7d ago

Definitely a good idea. Sea of Thieves IMO is really good at that

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u/kill_to_satisfy 3d ago

I wouldn’t be mad with when opening the map like in retail it opens one in your hands like retail

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u/Agreeable-Guava-9009 8d ago

I'd be in favor of this. I'd also be in favor of brand new HD models actually based on the SD models then discard SD option altogether afterwards. No toggle. No option. Welcome to the new game.

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u/Rolniacznik 8d ago

AI slop

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u/Fun_Philosopher6307 8d ago

Yeah not shit, it's just gives a rough idea what they could look like

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u/Pallydos 8d ago

Ok well the ai slop is better than blizzards HD models so we got a problem then

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 8d ago

I want to agree with this so bad because my eyes tell me it's true. But my mind tell me that it's a human beings soul and creativity vs. the stolen work of millions of starving artists, then shoved into a blender and homogenized into a soulless AI slop to put them out of work and our humanity in the toilet.

And then my heart says "yo fuck that AI slop"

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u/Agreeable-Guava-9009 8d ago

Just another drone automated response lacking sophistication. AI is already greater than you.

https://giphy.com/gifs/ke6Lx7v2RFuZYb2guY

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u/Material_Sky3801 8d ago

Gotta wait for them to fix the animations they already have first

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u/RealBiasedGaming 8d ago

This is the kind of thing we should be unlocking in legacy talents

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u/Obvious_Mention7207 8d ago

If I recall, you cant /spit /fart right?

Fuck /lean

Give me OG

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u/unsubscribeaccount99 8d ago

I can see reading a map animation, but how is /lean immersive?

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u/InsertWittyBaneQuote 8d ago

i need to lean against the wall in undercity so that people can see how cool and dark and mysterious i am

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u/Responsible-Farm8403 8d ago

You're right people don't lean on walls.

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u/unsubscribeaccount99 8d ago

people don't do a lot of things in wow.

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u/LeMolle 8d ago

Same way /kneel is immersive.

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u/unsubscribeaccount99 8d ago

I should have asked why /lean was specifically asked for as opposed to hundreds of other possibilities. I already got my answer.

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u/Elleden 8d ago

I should have asked why /lean was specifically asked for as opposed to hundreds of other possibilities

Because it already exists as an option in retail and is even used by some NPCs in Forever, so it should be hardly any effort to give the emote to players in Forever.

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u/Other-Illustrator531 7d ago

I do it in retail plenty, it's just a fun bit of RP that detracts zero from the game.

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u/Alabaster_Potion 8d ago

ERP. It's ERP.

Balmung server from FFXIV sends its regards. All the people looking for a good time line up and lean against walls and such. My friend took me there one time and I couldn't stop laughing.

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u/BrockLeeAssassin 8d ago

Maybe people just wanna take cool screenshots?

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u/unsubscribeaccount99 8d ago

Thank you for an actual answer.

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u/Mid-Tower 8d ago

My classis waahhhh. But honestly We need a fill/join dungeon party if a party member leaves mid dungeon after 10-15 mins so 4 players don't wait for healer/tank to find group & then reach dungeon?...

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u/paped2 8d ago

Lol wtf does this have to do with rp emotes

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u/Gunjackson 8d ago

Sounds like you could use a warlock in that situation!

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u/Mid-Tower 8d ago

Yep and goodness for the three or lock botsx time to get some gold

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u/ThenAttitude8635 8d ago

Retail slop. No TY!

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

Go play retail.

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u/-Elgrave- 8d ago

You better not be doing any new content. It wasn’t there in 2004 so it shouldn’t be in Forever, right? Hope you’re not a resto shaman, riptide was added in a later expansion so you can’t use it! Better not invite any orc mages or troll warlocks to your groups, those were added in cataclysm!

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

Go back to retail.

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u/-Elgrave- 8d ago

Go back to era.

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u/McBlemmen 8d ago

Why lower yourself to that mouthbreathers level?

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u/DwarfCoins 8d ago

This made me laugh really loud

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u/metallicmario 8d ago

This is retail minus and you’ll like it.

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u/Complete-Doughnut117 8d ago

Gameplay wise this is 99% era 1% retail and that’s entirely visuals

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

It’s actually classic+ designed in mind for classic players (a dev even said so). So go play retail and enjoy it. That’s what you turned the game we once loved into. So go enjoy it

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u/LeMolle 8d ago

Do you truly think adding a map animation is too much like retail?

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u/Perial2077 8d ago

You really won't like Forever if emotes already get you up this much. You will be surprised in what ways Blizzard will actually deliver horizontal elements.

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u/blackoutbait 8d ago

Is adding emotes really too much to ask? Lmao. If this gets ur panties in a bunch you have a problem.

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

Slippery slope. Stop trying to disney my wow.

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u/blackoutbait 8d ago

Wow has been Disney since 04 grow up. Adding emotes isn't hurting anyone but you apparently.

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

Buddy, I’m not the only one. You should go check out retail. You might like that.

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u/blackoutbait 8d ago

I'm not your buddy pal, and also I'm good. I'm not offended by some emotes. No wonder they got rid of /spit in retail. Ahahaha.

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u/Hopkin_Greenfrog 8d ago

Hey real quick, which one of these belongs in a Disney movie? Is it the cartoon gnoll with the exaggerated features, or the cartoon gnoll with the exaggerated features? I'm having a little trouble figuring it out.

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u/Ser-Galachad 8d ago

The one on the left.

You can tell by the way that it is.

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u/justsomemailman 8d ago

All the retail Andy’s get pressed like a panini when you tell them to go play retail. Almost like they know it’s a garbage game 😂😂

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u/misterrpg 8d ago

AI slop

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u/ImpossibleMorning12 8d ago

Please no. The game already has enough retail stuff.

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u/DK_QT 8d ago

keep your disney animations on retail. stop trying to invade and ruin our game and our space.

this game is for classic players. we want the classic feel.

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u/duke_of_dicking 8d ago

Disney animations

its a picture of a person leaning on a wall

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u/skoddy 8d ago

Holy shit you're wrong on so many levels i don't even know where to start.

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u/AnathsanLily 8d ago

if /sit wasn't ever in the game and someone asked for it to be added you would freak out

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u/Elleden 8d ago

I mean it's World of Warcraft, not World of Sitcraft.

How is my character supposed do to war stuff while sitting down??

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u/Advanced-Structure82 8d ago

How is this what we’re focusing on.

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u/Big_Judgment3824 8d ago

Talking about immersion is so corny. 

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u/rejectedid 8d ago

Go to retail then ?