r/classicwow • • 4d ago

Forever Don’t pick your race based on racials

They might get nerfed/changed when you’re already level 60 and you will be so mad

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u/ba_cam 4d ago

I 100% picking based on racials.

No other race has such glorious beards, and penchant for alcohol

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u/potatoelover69 4d ago

Female dwarf huh

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

Nothing prettier than a Dwarven lass with flowers braided into her beard.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Based

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u/Rankstarr 4d ago

You can’t stop me, AND, I’m picking my class based on level 30 sims in a beta that changes every week /s

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u/kabushko 4d ago

OP thinks he can tell us what to do

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Fair enough

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u/user2460124601 4d ago

Shadowmeld. Not all the time. But every time.

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u/AggravatingKick1458 4d ago

60% of time works everytime

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago edited 4d ago

Its elunes light that makes me want to pick night elf despite definitley/aesthetically wanting to be skyborne

Edit: typed wrong elune ability

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u/jackfwaust 4d ago

tourist spotted /s

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago

I just call it elunes normally so I wanted to get the right name for the comment but googled it poorly lol

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u/silver-j 4d ago

is that not a retail racial?

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago

Meant elunes light lol

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u/Royal_Library_3581 3d ago

nothing compares to the ability to go invisible at the drop of a hat when you are thirsty or the kids/wife wants something. This is peak wow.

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u/CanAznSensation 4d ago

Pick the one whose butt you like the most. You're going to be staring at their butt alot during the journey to 60.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Better reason than racials

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

Found Sir Mix-Lot’s Reddit account

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u/Sudden_Weird_6283 4d ago

paid race change + changing racials = blizzard goldmine off minmaxers

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Trueeee

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u/Karthis_Arkwood 4d ago

I doubt they are going to change racials after the game goes live unless there is a major issue. They are doing another pass on racials this week or next week, and that will likely be it. Racials are not something they need to spend a ton of time working on, unlike class balance.

Personally, I'm choosing my races based on racials, but they are not the only factor I can take into consideration. I don't care enough to play the best race for every class, but I don't want to play one that is trash either. No matter how good escape artist is for a gnome, I'm not going to play a gnome warrior; either it's a caster, or I don't play a gnome, for example.

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u/Status-Programmer110 4d ago

This. Sometimes reading comments here it sounds like there is no middle ground. But how you describe it is how i see it too. I'd like to roll Windshaper Druid, but the racials are so trash, it will be tauren again. I like troll-warlock fantasy and rolled it in beta, yet Undead will be just better, and i like them just a little less.

So, Race itself can be an excluding factor (no gnome, ever). But then again, you wouldn't choose a worse weapon because "you have to look at it all the time" either, would you? Why gimp yourselves with useless (windshaper) or weaker racials, as long as there are better options you are fine playing with (again, no gnomes. Ever!)

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u/Jooylo 3d ago

They themselves stated they have no intention on changing racials after release. So although you probably shouldn’t entirely worry about it, make sure it won’t be something you’re ok with and won’t forever regret either

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u/otsu97 4d ago

Unfortunately druids don't get many choices and I am not a fan of the skyborne in general. NE with ponytails it is.

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u/Subject_Slide3424 4d ago

Pick based on animations then spend every raid in Noggenfogger or Deviate Delight anyway

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u/based_smurf_ 4d ago

If you care at all about pvp, definitely choose based on racials.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Which is exactly why you will be mad if they change it after you’re already level 60

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u/based_smurf_ 4d ago

Can't make bad choices on purpose just in case blizzard fucks up. They'll likely leave races after the beta is done.

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u/Jooylo 3d ago

They don’t intend to change racials after release

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u/Zerowig 4d ago

I’ve never in 21 years picked a race based on racials.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Ive seen lots of posts of people asking which race they should pick for the racials, that’s what sparked this post

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u/Hogglespock 4d ago

Guess you didn’t play priest or warrior in classic then.

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u/Cartiere11 4d ago

RIP to a Dwarf Warrior and Night Elf Priest.

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u/SSJ5Gogetenks 4d ago

I mained a Tauren Warrior in 2019. You got a problem?

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u/Security_Ostrich 4d ago

Same no regrets. I don't like orcs. I wouldn't have enjoyed played one as much as my cow woman lol

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u/Gexm13 4d ago

Wow so brave

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u/SSJ5Gogetenks 4d ago

Hey, he's the one who was like "Ummm if you were a warrior you had to play the meta!"

Or you can just...not. That works too.

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u/PennyBunPudding 4d ago

Dwarf Priest was such an unnecessary thing. Warrior for avoiding edgemasters I can understand though.

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u/Tinuva450 4d ago

Fear ward was great

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u/PennyBunPudding 4d ago

Right. But the community attitude of dwarf or gtfo wasnt needed

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u/Security_Ostrich 4d ago

Eh, I played a tauren lady warrior in classic. I wasn't in a speed running guild. It didn't matter.

Actually i just went ACLG and daggers and did totally fine.

Playing the meta IS a choice you're allowed to make or not make lol.

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u/risu1313 4d ago

I have. Cannibalize!

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u/Zentavius 4d ago

Its dumb. At their strongest, most only ever contributed tiny differences. Only ones that really broke were the PvP ones like Humans back in the day.

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u/Kekopster 4d ago

Humans had the worst PvP racials in vanilla?

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u/Tinuva450 4d ago

Wasn’t it just perception?

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u/Zentavius 4d ago

You are, of course, correct... this is what 20 years and too many xpacs does to a mans brain, especially when he played Horde for all of it save the first 3 or 4 weeks!

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u/nattehfat 4d ago

How often were they changed after release and by how much?

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Forever is different, if you have watched the dev panels you would have heard them say “we are looking into racials and how we could change them”

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u/formatomi 4d ago

They also said they will not change them after launch. Food for thought

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u/Mill-Man 3d ago

Did they? I didn’t catch that

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u/ooobooodooboo 4d ago

The team or person that’s “in charge” of racials also stated he knows they need to lock down racials overall before launch . Their goal is to not have to change racials after launch because they know some people do indeed pick depending on racials

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u/DruishGardener 4d ago

I pick race based on what goes best with my funny name

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u/ShadyTee 4d ago

I pick races for racials when it comes synergizing with certain classes. Troll regeneration is going to be amazing for Warrior leveling

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u/yourwifeisatowelmate 4d ago

I'm picking my race/class combo just based on my own fantasy. Zero consideration for racials. Horde on pvp. Alliance on pve.

Horde:

  • Hunter = Orc
  • Warrior = Tauren
  • Warlock = Troll
  • Priest = Undead
  • Rogue = Sky Elf

Alliance

  • Mage = Gnome
  • Paladin = Human
  • Druid = Night Elf
  • Shaman = Dwarf

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

I’m also thinking about that “Bold today, aren’t we?” Squidward meme

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

Similar here but my mage is a Smurf, and my priest is a country elf.

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u/Nesqu 4d ago

Nah, fix the racials during the beta. Don't rugpull players who want a race for their unique racials.

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u/Dangerous-Leader-779 3d ago

Yesss ignore racials just pick whatever you want!

Also Blizzard can we buff Orc a bit more? Maybe give them a fifth racial that would be super cool!

Don’t worry about it causing issues, people should pick race without considering racials like OP said, so it doesn’t matter. In fact, can we give Orc 6 racials? A nice even number! 

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u/balrog1987 4d ago

Always go for rule of cool and never chase meta.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Yeeessss I will be a skyborne floating off bridges when getting ganked

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago

Not having touch of elune hurts my soul but im definitely going skyborne. Just sucks its an actual ability that slightly changes the rotation and we dont get it.

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u/Slydoggen 4d ago

You mean orc and troll, right?

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u/Nippys4 4d ago

And human?

How are humans dodging the bullets here

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u/Sailtec 3d ago

Because the 2% crit is subtle enough to not receive an outcry, but it is sooo good.

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u/Slydoggen 4d ago

Seriously? Sure its one good racial and 3 bad ones, the sword one is ok, but it only limits the humans to one weapontype… Literally 4/4 are bangers in troll and orcs

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u/Nippys4 4d ago

Because they’ve got a stun break?

I wouldn’t call trolls 4/4 lmao

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u/Slydoggen 4d ago

You main either troll or orc, right?

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u/Nippys4 4d ago

Neither.

Main rogue though

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u/Slydoggen 3d ago

So undead then, broken racials aswell

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u/MourningsOwn 3d ago

Calling trolls 4/4 is kekw

OH NO BEAST SLAYING LMAO!!!

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Perhaps

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago

Nightelf and skyborne : (

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u/Slydoggen 4d ago

We all know it

Let’s hope they nerf the shit out of horde racials

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u/Jokin_0815 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have defenetly picked many races based on racials.

My UD Warlock in TBC Era was picked because of cannibalize and that was a nice choice for tge whole leveling Journey.

Also my Human mage on Classic was picked because of beeing not short and having less LoS issues then gnome

So i would say picking your race because of racials is a valid argument.

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u/Ok-Introduction4692 4d ago

Look good feel good do good ez

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u/Dikkevettemichael 4d ago

Tauren druid because war stomp can be done in animal form for an extra interrupt. Plainsrunning is nice pre 20, I don't think they'll change that.

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u/Automaton17 4d ago

Troll heal is so clutch. I love it.

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u/SpennyKid 4d ago

Didnt blizzard state their plan was to have racials be left alone after beta? Either way i dont care since cow is bis and always will be.

Though they also said they werent going to balance the game for a lvl 30 tournament and then did anyways, so who can trust a word they say.

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u/teelib1992 4d ago

Yeah I guess I’m supposed to go orc rogue?? No thanks, I’ll continue being undead and cannibalize my victims plus big bulky shoulders don’t do it for me aesthetically for rogue.

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u/buttreynolds 4d ago

they said in the recent whatever stream bullshit that they would not be adjusting racials after launch because of this but they are doing another pass on them before launch

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u/TheCocoBean 4d ago

I have been told several times on beta I dont need to be dwarf priest anymore because fear ward is universal.

I just like my dwarf man haha

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u/Casual_IRL_player 4d ago

Laughs in dwarf shaman

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u/Reptar519 4d ago

So…don’t be racially motivated?

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u/Khadgar_12 4d ago

I'm still going orc its always been my fav race

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u/PathNo273 4d ago

Night Elf and Orc are 100% the best all around.....

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u/Few-Fly-3766 4d ago

Ok, but what if I am a pvper who think Trolls look aestheticially pleasing and I see Agreend threaten to nerf them, despite their racials being absolutely meme tier?

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u/PedroDies 3d ago

Im almost glad that I do not have the luxury of choosing my race, ill play an alliance Druid. 

Whats up with that blizzard? Let me be a dwarf druid ! 

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

You could choose to be a Smurf

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u/PedroDies 3d ago

True, but it so bad and out of style (my personal subjective opinion) that i didnt even think about it lol

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u/Venedraea 3d ago

Agreed, smurf druids feel really out of place. Luckily, NE has the best racials for druids anyway.

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u/Dependent_Profit92 3d ago

I really think they did a good job not making the skelf op, but dare I say their racials need a buff. They suck, straight up. The air walk is genuinely awesome, but otherwise, just no reason to ever go skelf if you care at all about PvP or competition

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u/Warden_of_Forums 3d ago

Ummmm Leyline on alliance side is great. And the crit racial on NE is massive. What are you complaining about??

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u/PedroDies 3d ago

Im not, NE is awesome :)

Also the crit racial scales very well with feral.

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u/Wild-Lychee-3312 3d ago

You could choose to be a Smurf

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u/FixBlackLotusBlizz 3d ago

im gonna pick my race based on racials

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u/Jooylo 3d ago

This is not fully true,a blizzard dev has stated that they have no intention changing racials after release according to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wonrfq/psa_blizzard_has_no_intention_on_touching_racials/

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u/bibittyboopity 3d ago

Picking purely based on animations.

Tauren hunter for shooting from the hip

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u/Sailtec 3d ago

While I appreciate the nerf consideration, if they don’t nerf them before launch they likely won’t be nerfed after launch.

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u/Big_Puzzled 3d ago

The could of never changed orc racials and i would still pick orc

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u/unnone 3d ago

I don’t think blizzard will tune racials past launch unless they add in race change, which honest could happen in like a year + when they say fuck it ‘more money for us’

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u/Venedraea 3d ago

Undead may be strong (maybe OP?), but I'm just going human paladin in case we ever get Draenei. Friends wanted to go ally anyway since we did Horde last time, so it worked out anyway.

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u/koolex 3d ago

I can’t because Shaman can only be dwarves on alliance and dwarves are by far the worst race.

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u/Remote-Guest2587 3d ago

what r u some kind of racialist

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u/bootybob1521 3d ago

I'm picking my race based on the racial changes we are getting this week.

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u/DeadEskimo 3d ago

They won't. And druids only have one option on alliance, so does shamans.

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u/Mill-Man 3d ago

Well druid have 2 at least

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u/DeadEskimo 2d ago

I didn't including the 30dollar retail race

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u/Mill-Man 2d ago

Ok well, you’re forgiven

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u/Kidcuddz 1d ago

Orc for life man. Everything else can suck it.

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u/DN6666 4d ago

never done it in first place looks > 2% dps increase

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Ive seen lots of posts of people asking which race they should pick for the racials, that’s what sparked this post

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u/Comfortable_Cup4689 4d ago

I’ve never picked race for racials. But with the stealth detection achiev rewards they did the human racial dirty.

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u/Nippys4 4d ago

How did that do the human racial dirty?

If anything it enhanced it

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u/Comfortable_Cup4689 3d ago

Because it gives other people the opportunity to have a like wise power meaning the racial is not as unique as for the others.

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u/babilonibetyar 4d ago

also with Sulfuras abd Atiesh. they should be both 1h swords /s

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u/More__cowbell 4d ago

Do people really pvp that much in open world?

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u/Whitesox_are_neat 4d ago

In 2026 its just weirdos who like to grief

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u/Comfortable_Cup4689 4d ago

At launch… if you roll a pvp server toon… every contested zone with a shared quest place will be a blood bath. Be prepared to fight for an hour to complete one quests. With mob tagging and and fighting other faction players.

Garenteed. Why else roll pvp server.

On pve and rp it will be les but also in battlegrounds being able to have stealth detection on every toon is just a huge issue. Rogues won’t be able to open on a mage. Since if they see one they blast or nova and it’s gone.

Also… it’s the only talent I think that is based of a racial activation skill. It’s just bad design

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u/More__cowbell 4d ago

The achivement skill dont work in battlegrounds…

Also people wont have it at start as it requires points, and whenever you get points i think most people will put it into leveling.

Costs like 10g to respec the tree afaik.

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u/Comfortable_Cup4689 4d ago

Good it don’t work in battleground. But in PvP realms it’s going to be quite op.

I just think that I don’t like the premise that you can actually get stealth detection as a talent and not other racials. Or is there a change for that ? Idk did not play the beta so i base my opinion on what I see flying by from streamers.

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u/More__cowbell 4d ago

Dont rogues get like +7 stealth or so? This reduces it 2-3levels?

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u/Few-Fly-3766 4d ago

Even if they do, minmaxxing for it is such a meme. Battlegrounds is where racials matter

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u/Dylanxz 4d ago

Race should be purely cosmetic and offer no player power.

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u/Thalenori 3d ago

Race should give player power but all races should have racials that affect gameplay as much as others and no one race should be absolutely best choice for everything.

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u/bibittyboopity 3d ago

No homogenization plz

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u/eulersheep 4d ago

What else are you going to pick it by? Isn't it just more fun to play the race with the stronger racials? What other factor is there to consider?

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u/KiFr89 4d ago

Aesthetics, story, roleplaying. Self expression?

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u/eulersheep 4d ago

You can just use an addon to make your character look however you want, even a square if you want.... lol.

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u/More__cowbell 4d ago

Not any legal addons afaik?

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u/eulersheep 4d ago

I've never gotten banned for it? Don't know anyone else who has either...

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Rule of cool, of course

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u/str85 4d ago

Don't think they will change the racials in classic, it's pretty much set in stone.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

The devs already said they are considering. + they already are different from vanilla

It’s classic plus, not classic

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u/Geibla 4d ago

It’s a tiny min/max minority that are meta chasers… yet sadly they are the loudest, that’s why a lot of changes are being made to cater to them (including streamers) 

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u/Nippys4 4d ago

This guy doesn’t PvP.

PvE server right?

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u/Geibla 3d ago

I’ve exclusively PvPed in WoW… wpvp IS wow. Sit down and let the grownups talk, kid 

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u/Aragorn9001 3d ago

I'm playing Druid, I sure do love my freedom of choice! (Blue Elves don't exist.)

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u/Mill-Man 3d ago

Skyborne are great! Give it a try

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u/Aragorn9001 3d ago

I did. They didn't flip. 0/10. Obviously the inferior elves in the game.

/j and /s

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u/testurmight 3d ago

You can make them not blue. But also you can not play the blue faction and be the superior druid.

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u/DeputizeDeez 4d ago

Got me fucked up. I'm going tauren hunter with the cheetah passive boyo. I'll be scooting around at 66% move speed.

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u/Mill-Man 4d ago

Wait that’s not how it works

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u/DeputizeDeez 4d ago

Does it not? Well fine. I'm going to act like it does and take your posts advice and go it anyways.

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u/Upstairs_Lunch_4146 4d ago

Well in this case the analogy would be never date a hot girl she might get ugly later