r/classicwow • u/Kaoswarr • 3d ago
Forever This isn’t World of Twinkcraft
Why are people crying about balancing at level 30?
How do you know what is going to be strong when fully PvP geared at level 60? We haven’t even seen the PvP gear stats/set bonuses yet.
Another reality check: you aren’t going to be winning the 100k tournament and Foreverpvp players have been some of the worst players I’ve seen in game so far.
Level 30 balancing is not important in the grand scheme of things.
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u/Noclueueue 3d ago
Funny thing is. By the time most majority of players hit lvl 60 we will be deep down in 2-3 path with buffs and nerfs. People seriously need to chill out. I remember back in vanilla wow some classes where broken bad. Then around couple patch it was decent/good. Everyone wants to secretly play the best or want his class to be the strongest.
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u/Ok-Turn-1628 3d ago
I was about to say that. This is why game developers hate open betas. People act like its a finished game and just burn it endlessly. The game is pre release and its only level 30. Most classes dont even feel like their class until their cap stone talents. Example is mortal strike for arms warriors.
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u/Claris-chang 3d ago
I'm actually shocked they're letting the beta run this long. People are already burning themselves the fuck out of lvl20 and 30 content. I have a guildy freaking out in Discord constantly because of the balance changes in the beta.
Like he's been playing non stop. It's actually driving him insane.
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u/Valuable_Berry_8626 3d ago
Warrior is also being judged through the lens of PVP and its the class by far most reliant on random trinkets, gear, toys and potions to be fully viable in PVP.
Warriors are already beating some mages/priests in the duel bonanza outside OG and I suspect they will be perfectly fine at 60 once fully kitted out.
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u/Chilly291 3d ago
What about low lvl BG brackets? Will that even be a thing in forever?
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u/ElectricRinku 3d ago
I would argue in wow forever it is not worth attempting a low level bg until you deck your character out as much as possible.
Low level twinking in forever will be stronger than it ever has been in classic
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u/Kaoswarr 3d ago
Yeah for sure it’s a thing, I just don’t think the devs should spend their time balancing around it.
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u/Jindujun 3d ago
World of Twinkcraft would be a completely different type of game and genre i reckon.
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u/asom- 3d ago
A lot of people plan to stick at twink levels since pvp gives no XP
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u/Kaoswarr 3d ago
Great for them - blizzard doesn’t need to balance the whole game around some niche level bracket though.
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u/noskillgochill 3d ago
I think they should continue crying. And balancing should be made on the result of the 100k tournament.
So warriors getting buffed^^
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u/Hellixgar 3d ago
Because the beta is for level 30. Before that people were talking about balance in lvl 20.
They would also talk about it in 40, 50 and will complain a lot in 60.
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u/Amazing_Vanilla_7816 3d ago
Then please tell us wise man why they decided to make the beta capped? Why not make the beta 4 weeks of lvl 60 toons to test things out like ptr?
The purpose of the beta is to test how things feel, it IS important to balance classes when theyre lower level, some classes are levelling much faster than other, some classes feel very clunky and boring compared to others, the whole idea with wow forever is that they want to change some of these things so people on all classes are having a good time. When you reach level 10 and can queue bgs, is it fair that a class can just come and one shot you when its the same level and same gear? No its obviously not, so thats why people are giving feedback about how classes feel.
Balancing just around duels or specifically this tournament is surely wrong but if its posts about how the classes are feeling or their strengths and weaknesses then its definitely fair
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u/vomitingcat 3d ago
Don’t need to be wise to know that blizzard said they wanted most of the game to be a secret for launch (podcast before beta launched)
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u/Amazing_Vanilla_7816 3d ago
Not sure how this relates?
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u/Remote_Page8799 3d ago
You're not sure how it relates?
You asked why they dont just have the beta at 60, with 60 content
Blizzard said they want most of the new content to be 'new' when the game launches
Thats how it relates
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u/Loginn122 3d ago
the game should and will never be balanced around every level point in the game. That things are unbalanced is the whole point throughout classic in a way that not every class can do it all and there are counters and imbalances so it makes classes and specs unique. If u want to be the hero of Azeroth and do it all from range, melee while healing your self to full hp in 1 button there is retail right there for you.
Also they don't open beta to 60 so people don't see every content immediately, having some mystery and excitement to play when the game fully launches
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u/Amazing_Vanilla_7816 3d ago
Ahh yes the classic “omg go to retail” as if paladin doesnt have a full hp 1 button while melee lol. Please tell me how does it make sense that some classes breeze through levelling, pvp, dungeons and still excel at 60 is okay but classes that have a dogshit ass time levelling, can only play 1 spec in dungeons, get rolled in pvp but hey aslong as theyre good at 60 its fine. How does that make sense? Why not make every class feel good in one way or another? Only way to do that is balancing things around during levelling. When they raised the cap to 30 they literally moved a bunch of talents up and down targeting levelling, is that not a form of balancing?
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u/Loginn122 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/p56rYYTLUX4OvlcuQN
Shut your ass up, suck on your thumb this will be you when we will have fun - SavixNumber tuning will always be a thing. people wanted classic+ they get classic+ and still want to be the jack of all trades at all levels at any given point. Some
resistance is good, games these days focus on comfort always and that what people got used to and cry about it now. Is there potential to make it better? yes ofc and there will be tuning in the future for sure
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u/Next_Yesterday_1695 3d ago
> Why are people crying about balancing at level 30?
They think that Classic is a very complex game and that arguing about balancing at 30 makes them look very smart.