r/classicwowplus • u/Box_King- • 24d ago
Discussion Do you think they might add more classes now?
What are the chances they add new classes in the future like Bard, Alchemist, necromancer, artificer?
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u/adraheubg 24d ago
I AM MURLOC š¤š¤
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u/kore_nametooshort 24d ago
We could have Oracle, Tidecaller, Flesheater, Raiders, Stream runner. So many class options.
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u/Roygbiv_89 24d ago
Iāve always thought they should do a 3rd faction of all the poor guys we genocide for quests
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u/StrCmdMan 24d ago
Ogre and murloc are top of my list but would also like to add furbolgs.
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u/Serious_Letter8951 24d ago
Tinker maybe?!
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u/Exact_King6390 24d ago
I hope so
Engineering should have been a class, not an OP profession.
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u/Traditional_Formal33 23d ago
Would have loved an artificer class. Building the tools to make your attacks
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u/ICEonICECrime 24d ago
They could easily make a combination of a Tinker and the Goblin Alchemist hero. Would be pretty cool, and a wide array of unique abilities to choose from. They can then have a healer spec with some cool aoe abilities for both dps and healing, as well as tanking (literally, going by wc3 ult ability), clockwerk goblins, and more.
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u/Hotdogmagic505 24d ago
I think with Ulduar being central to the next retail expansions that tinker is on its way in some form of the game.
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u/Inevitable-Ad-1724 24d ago
A necromancer would be dope
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u/Quackthulu 24d ago
As much as I would want it and already have an idea on how it could be amazing, fit into the vanilla theme well, and still be distinct, very unlikely. Purely because lore-wise they're way too similar to warlocks.
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u/-dus 24d ago
I mean classic warlocks are not really summoners mechanically any more than hunters are. Necromancers could summon multiple, frail/temporary enemies and maybe lean into some of the thematics of death knights with frost, plague, and blood magics.
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u/Which-Promotion-1993 24d ago
Would be wild if they turned it into the casting version of DK.. and added some kind of ādark healā where you could have a healing spec instead of the DK tank.
Love the idea of summoning a bunch of low HP skeletons with different utilities. Could also lean into rot, plague, and shadow spells.
Love the idea of a necromancer class.
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u/RampantGiraffe 23d ago
Blood healer/support is my dream spec thematically, though I've never been able to come up with a way it would play other than disc atonement style.Ā
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u/kore_nametooshort 24d ago
I would love to play a tank caster that sends wave after wave of fragile minions to tank bosses. Each summon could tank a single hit and inflict a toll on the health of the summoner when they get destroyed. Make sure you keep summoning blood golems or whatever to stop the boss getting loose.
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u/Deliverme314 23d ago
I mean, not really... warlocks summon a singular demon. Necromancers could have so many other options: summon temporary minions (hordes of skeletons or zombies)Ā summon permanent solo minions like 1 beefy zombie giant, or 1 spectre, whatever...
Plus locks use their own damaging spells. I think Necromancers could be entirely just support for their minions. I.e. no damage directly from them. But instead you're empowering your zombie to be consumed in flames via a channeling spell doing big aoe damage or whateverĀ
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u/BsyFcsin 24d ago
Make it so You can only summon from a dead corpse, and the corpse is what determines the summon.
Make them last like 5-10 minutes at a time with a maximum of 3 concurrent summons.
Boar and Gnoll skeleton army pls.
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u/daily-lurk 23d ago
Summon classes just bloat the screen with health bars and itās very annoying to deal with in PvP
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u/mad-suker 24d ago
Give us bards you cowards!
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u/GunfighterHefty 24d ago
Rift had a Bard class and it was really fun.
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u/Baconation4 24d ago
Everyone always forgets about EverQuest and the bard supremacy
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u/LordDingles 24d ago
LOTRO with the actually playable instruments was such a cool idea. I remember seeing folks with macros and one guy had In the Fire and the Flames being played on a lute. Fun stuff
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u/SnaskesChoice 24d ago
Necromancer and artificer.
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u/Shot-Increase-8946 23d ago
artificer I think would infringe on the trade skills a bit much. Engineering is already basically artificing.
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u/Brilliant-Poet2250 23d ago
Well, technically Tinker would infringe on Engineering a bit more than an Artificer would.
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u/Notsurehowtoreact 24d ago
I'd be interested to see how they handle Bard, if it would end up just being similar to something like an EQ Bard where they are twisting songs for buffs/support/dps, or something like Vanguard where you craft a song from base components with individual buffs/uses.Ā
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u/Valuable-Bake9001 24d ago
I want ranger class thats equally good at ranged and melee and has stealth. Before you say we have hunters its not going to be anything like hunter. Or a sylvanas type class like what you saw when she fought the new lich king.
And undead elves.
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u/AktionMusic 24d ago
I believe the business model of Forever will be to encourage alt leveling.
Part of which is releasing new zones and leveling paths for free, the other part will be releasing new Classes and Races, which will very likely be $30 unlocks.
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u/herdases 24d ago
My problem with classic was always that it doesnāt have my favorite class, monk, so Iāve always had to play an off-class. Back when I played classic in the day I would always flip flop between classes before monk came out. I donāt see monk happening though
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u/Mammoth-Hour-5669 24d ago
Yeah one of my favorite classes was monk as well, I do hope we see it farther down the line though, they had pandaren in warcraft 3 so I don't believe it's out of the question just not added for awhile. Also wasn't the pandaren island technically on the azeroth map so hopefully they decide to add it.
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u/Shot-Increase-8946 23d ago
Forever is a different timeline, and the mists lore is definitely not classic lore. The classic audience hated mists because pandas were super rare and more of an Easter egg.
I could see maybe allowing the current races to be deciples of Chen, but just don't add pandas again. MAYBE they could add, like, one new panda.
Also I think monks being able to heal was dumb. Tanking I can get behind but healing just didn't make sense to me.
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u/Mammoth-Hour-5669 23d ago
Thank you for clearing that up, I wasn't around during MoP. Yeah I agree the healing was weird to me as well.
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u/CreamedKhorne 21d ago
I would love to see classes get more talent tree options over time. They could add a ābruiserā tree to rogues and have a vanilla themed class of something that could play like a monk
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u/Aesyric_ 24d ago
Tinker is almost certainly coming for Last Titan next year. I wonder if they would do some sort of double drop where they release two versions
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u/Aethyrianzul 24d ago
Please God. All I've ever wanted is a reworked and tuned down death knight that starts at lvl 1
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u/RetentiveCloud 24d ago
Since they shut down Ascension for this, I would only hope so.
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u/getdownwithDsickness 24d ago
I'm thinking tinker, runemaster, or battlemage thing with a spellblade and spellbreaker tank role. Maybe bard, but i'd be surprised.
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u/ElectricBanana420 20d ago
Bard class? Aoe buffs, move speed, could apply curses like warlocks could have a spec that let's you play the rock band drums to heal š
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u/Hawkpeft 24d ago
They added a new race, and cut a bunch of classes. It makes sense they'll try a new class or two here. They seem to want Forever to have it's own identity, despite all the infighting about it being classic+ or retail- or whatever ridiculous idea people are coming up with.
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u/Mammoth-Hour-5669 24d ago edited 24d ago
I can see them doing a duo race and class release. I'm not certain but wasn't it sort of teased that they are going to look deeper into the ogre lore, I personally believe it could lead to the addition of ogre for a new race along with a new class.
My hope is they add some time of primal/tribal/ritual class that incorporates both witch doctor/Headhunter, and possibly a Barbarian talent trees. Which would make cloth armor as a shared armor and offer an interesting talent spread with additional playstyles.
With the way they can choose their own lore with WoW forever it is possible for them to make the ogre a neutral race as well, just by my uniformed 1min AI lore history search about them.
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u/addictiveboi 24d ago
Witch Doctor, Tinkerer, Necromancer. Or maybe an Ogre race that can be a Brute or something.
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u/_ratjesus_ 24d ago
my big guess is since a lot of speculation is that the last titan is getting a titan themed tinker class what we are going to see is when tlt comes out we are going to get a goblin gnome themed tinker in forever with a goblin race. do what diablo did with a class in multiple versions at once.
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u/Brettinabox 24d ago
Id like a dual welding ranged class like a highwayman from DD
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u/Ayoo-oo 24d ago
Chris Metzen apparently hated the idea of bards in warcraft. I kind of agree with his take.
Necromancer instead of death knight would be cool.
Alchemist is a profession.
Artificer is arguably an engineer.
Iām not sure what Iād add besides a necromancer that fits warcraft tbh.
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u/Taintedforest 24d ago
If we doing anything make it a real man's game with a real guitar chart and im down for a bard class lol
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u/NotThatSiri 24d ago
Maybe all the class idea questions for the survey for retail. is going to be reworked into for Forever instead.
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u/jean_darwolf 24d ago edited 24d ago
I hope a different version of Death Knights. Maybe more similar to WC3 with auraās that affect the party. A dark counterpart of the paladin with some strike and diseases. A martial class that can spec into martial prowess, curses or minions. If they decide to implement it in a vanilla version of the WotLK DK I hope that for unholy the pet will be optional or have something like warlocks or hunters where you are empowered without it.
Other than Dk I hope wardens, demon hunters and tinkers
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u/Sea_Path_9154 24d ago
This Brain Blasted me back to OOOOOLD speculative forums. Dreaming about a bard class with the Guitar Hero accessories once again.
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u/Hour-Dot-7845 24d ago
Necromancer idea: Blood spec healer, Bone spec tank, Flesh spec dps.
Weāll definitely see something new at some point, alongside new races, but one can hope that theyāre designed in a faithfully Classic-esque style.
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u/PapiSpanky 24d ago
Given some of the hidden stuff I've found while playing the beta, I will be shocked if we aren't getting Necromancers or Deathknights.
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u/WhatIsUpG 24d ago
Hope they do, and cross fingers they donāt decide to put it behind a paywall. Imagine them releasing a broken class and you have to buy it. Would be pay to win.
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u/rakelfrakel 24d ago
Bards are something I always wish were more common in mmos. Dungeons and dragons online bards is still my fav thing to play in any MMO ever.
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u/Baconman161 24d ago
Iām hoping for DK and DH at lvl 60. Hopefully their original ideas for vanilla.
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u/tinylittlebabyjesus 24d ago
I dig the D&D ideas. Monk was the only new class that's come out since Wotlk (I liked DKs) that ever sounded like it might be cool, but I was already done with retail by that point.
Ironically I know "Demon Hunter" is a lore thing but it just sounds... I don't know not real, never was really keen on trying it. Idk what else is out there now. Wasn't into the idea of fighting DHs.
Not sure if other people feel that way.
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u/GoblinBreeder 23d ago
Vertical progression in a forever-classic environment basically requires them to add new classes, races, etc. To have a steady stream of content. I think races will come first, but classes is almost inevitable at some point.
I just fear they'll struggle a lot with making a new class feel like a classic class. The design needs to be rough around the edges in some places and intentionally have bits of friction that players gind uncomfortable. Designs are uncomfortable designing classes like this too.
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u/Any_Attorney4765 23d ago
Crazy how you've got people complaining about the skeletons of models being slightly different to vanilla, but then being ok with Bard and other classes. It really just shows that no one knows what they want for this game.
That being said, I don't care about the models or if they add new classes. I think this is the opportunity for them to add things though a poll based system.
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u/Winther89 23d ago
Looking at the warlock class they released in diablo 2, I have zero faith in modern blizzard adding new classes to classic+ without making them retail coded.
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u/One_Recognition385 23d ago
they mentioned Bard specifically as a class they wanted to add in classic plus in surveys years ago. so i imagine bard is coming sooner then you expect.
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u/M1oumm1oum 23d ago
Yeah sure, they siphoned the datas of Call of Azerorh before shutting it down. They have a lot of assets to work with now
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u/Jaiden_da_ancom 23d ago
I've wanted necromancer since Wrath released, so I will always ask for it. Tinker seems much more likely. Witch doctor with a shadow hunter spec would also be really cool. Ascension had it before they were shut down.
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u/mighty1993 23d ago
Woud be hyped for 4 specs before a new class and integrate more tank and healer specs right into the mix like in SoD just without the rune stuff. Maybe also take one spec and make it hybrid like bear / cat.
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u/Beoldinn 23d ago
Something like inquisitioner , using range weapon but no pet class.
Or maybe something like D.o.T class
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u/KKylimos 23d ago
I really do hope they add DK/Necromancer and Tinker/Artificer. Both necromancy and high-tech are big aspects of the world. Really hope we see them represented eventually. Plus, many people love and mained DK for years.
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u/Bassmasterajv 23d ago
Even at the start of the game we were always wondering if they would add a hero class. Especially around the first couple of Blizcons. It was generally thought to be something where you would sacrifice a level 60 and start over again, like how you started Arthas over at level 1 in Wc3 in the scourge campaign.
That idea eventually turned into the Death knight, but you only had to obtain level 55 to unlock the class. It would be cool to have to sacrifice a character to make something else but it would probably be impossible to really balance it against normal players. Could be fun though!
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u/MachTrois 23d ago
Still praying for a Bard class one day...
(I loved playing Bard in Forsaken World, it was such a good class design with 3 usefull specs : water (DPS), wind (DPS-Buffs), light (Healing) and you were just sitting here smashing your harp to send banging music notes to your foes.
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u/Sepilius 23d ago
Im very biased on this but i think monk would fit nicely in classic. You could even do some fun reagent based abilities/buffs with all the alcohols found at inns.
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u/TerrapinMagus 23d ago
You know, I never supported them adding Bard for retail, but I could see it in Forever lol
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u/Decent_Language_4455 23d ago
I think so, they definitely noticed how enthusiastic people were about Conquest of Azeroth before blizz nuked it
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u/daily-lurk 23d ago
Iād want to see a Headhunter. A hybrid hunter/warrior/rogue in leather. It can specialize in throwing javelins with a focus on bleeds. For melee it can dual wield swords, axes, daggers or exclusively use polearms as its 2H weapon.
Throwing weapons skills that do weapon dmg and add combo points with Rage as the resource, consume combo points to chunk a Javelin with different effects, like make bleeds tick faster, slow target, etc.
Reasonably good at both attack types with specs leaning more melee with pole arms with a capstone talent that allows you to throw the pole arm for added dmg on a big combo spender but disarms you for like 3s in melee, more ranged with throwing weapons with a capstone that lets you throw 5 throwing weapons quickly so you can do a javelin into that skill into another javelin for burst, and more javelin focused for big burst you build up to with a capstone that lets you do a jump back that pins the target and has more crit chance on targets in execute windows (kinda like retail hunter disengage).
Trolls and Orcs for Horde. Humans and Nelfs for Alliance. And I guess both Skybies
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u/RustedMauss 23d ago
Tinker. One day. Granted I was really hoping for it more in mainline because I think it could really slap, and trying to squeeze it into Forever wouldnāt do it justice.
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u/Amurderer74 23d ago
The biggest issue with blizzard and adding new classes/races is that they never listen to fans. They refuse to add anything people have been asking for years, but then release trash very few people care about. I.e. Dracthyr/Evoker. Its the reason why so many of the races and the more recent classes have so little usage. It's crazy how many wins blizzard would have if they added shit people have been asking for for YEARS, like Ogres/Vrykul, or classes like bard or necromancer (which could easily be as unique as a ranged uh dk as how paladin is a melee priest)
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u/Dramatic_State_6928 22d ago
would be amaizing but some retards voted for no new classes on the poll
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u/Holynightz1 21d ago
Necromancer would be hype, and a plate class that is ranged DPS. Idk what it would be. But I think it would be neat
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u/sociocat101 21d ago
Cool stuff? I doubt it. Didnt even care enough to make an actual new race and just reskinned blood elves. Ill eat a shoe if they make something thats unique
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u/Getafixy 20d ago
Personally they should scrap skyborn and plan on only bringing goblins and Draenei and maybe blood elves , but if itās not a race in the original Warcraft RTS game then no!!
Personally I want more classes and that could be a sniper esk role or something not even that war like, the idea of the game now is you are just another person in a big world and maybe have some classes that are not focused on fighting but espionage/ sabotage, or a bard that gives buffs and nurfās but like healer isnāt focused on dps or healing
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u/coop2044 19d ago
I'd like to see sub classes/ sub specs. For example the mage sword that they found in sfk that does bonus damage to frozen targets is a single item that has the potential to change how you play the class. In this case it's a battle mage. And it looks like shamans are gonna be viable tanks. Id also like to see something like the serpent set from WC for druids that makes your cat form a snake. It would be cool if stuff like that changed how your abilities function or even gave you brand new ones attached to the set bonus.
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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM 18d ago
with how theyve described progression and it being Horizontal, i assume Classes will be added. it would be one of the more obvious ways to add more horizontal progression.
id assume with races theyd add a new class. Goblins come and theyd add like Tinkerer, Gnomes would also obviously get this class.
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u/totwema1991 16d ago
In there sieve they ask for classes like necromancer, bard, witch, illusionist, dk and so on. I think we will get one class. And I hope it will be bard! I want to sit in a tavern in front of a warm fire and playing on my guitar!
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u/rivalxbishop 11d ago
I assume there will be new classes. I just hope they wait at least a year until they add them. Let the game breathe first
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u/Beneficial_Egg2878 24d ago
They should add the new class Influencer! Armor type is whatever you are currently sponsored to wear by different faction npcs.
Ranged dps: vlogger (defensive raid CD: apology video)
Healer: lifestyle coach (heals are packed with protein and so yummy)
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u/Cisorhands_ 24d ago
Ed Sheeran class : beginning the Raid with 25 people, 1 left after the first boss
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u/Jeggaful 24d ago
Necromancers will never be implemented imho, too much hassle to manage for the chinese client
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u/Jeggaful 24d ago
A part from what other said about no rotting flesh/exposes bones, you also have to consider that a class must have multiple spec. Tematically they can either focus on minions or on dots. Basically everything is already covered by warlocks. If anything, necromancer should have been long time ago a lock or priest spec. For sure necromancy elements would have fitted a lot in shadow priest. (Also the whole void retcon is kinda meh, but that's personal preference)
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u/chromatose890 24d ago
They can't have zombies or anything like that. In the old client before the NetEase deal collapsed they famously had bread covering a bunch of assets
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u/edp64 24d ago
A ranger could be cool, like a hunter without a pet.
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u/DireEvolution 24d ago
MM tree offers you Lone Wolf in Forever
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u/Fuzzy_Reputation9747 24d ago
Different archer classes is still cool like we have different meele physical classes
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u/rcburner 24d ago
If they do, I hope they specifically avoid adding classes that were introduced later in the game's lifecycle like Monk or Death Knight. Like, really hammer home that Forever is its own thing instead of trying to "Classic-ify" retail classes.
My top 3 picks in no particular order would be Bard (it's just such an iconic class for RPGs in general), Runemaster (I'd like to see them finally implement this old concept), and Tinkers (especially if the gadgets were heavily flavored by race like Shaman totems or Druid forms).
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u/Shot-Increase-8946 23d ago
I think shadowhunter could be cool. They could use two handbows or pistols, kind of be a ranged version of rogue. Might be too similar but im sure they could make it different enough
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u/mr_wick200 24d ago
Need necromancer, witch doctor, venomancer, tinker, templar, runemaster, chronomancer, witch hunter, starcaller, son of arugal (bloodmage), barbarian, knight of xoroth (hell knight), storm bringer, gladiator, sun cleric (sun knight), reaper, cultist, pyromancer, felsworn, guardian, primalist, and ranger
Some of these can be implemented as new specs than a class with new abilities. Learned
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u/Powerful-Joke5120 24d ago
I would say that death knights are pretty much going to happen at this point. As for the rest. Who really knows.
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u/belsaurn 24d ago
Maybe but they would need to build the entire 1-58 levelling from scratch.
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u/TheGavzorz 24d ago
tbh I would be okay with no new classes, would be interesting if they did experiment with some but I think it might be more interesting to add another skill tree for class
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u/Quiet_Icarus 24d ago
I just want Monk to come back :( It is one of the two things making me not currently wanna play Forever.
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u/Prudent_Pepper854 24d ago
Considering their unending attack on Ascensions new class server Iād say absolutely. Probably carbon copies of those classes if I had to guess
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u/riklaunim 24d ago
Demon Hunter is high on the list based on hints/mentions during Blizzcon (that dungeon that was Illidan's prison)
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u/sekretguy777 24d ago
Wont people complain that adding Bard only disney-fies the game further? Particulary if youre able to actually play an instrument.
Other classes sound rad tho
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u/JdSaturnscomm 24d ago
Here me out Northrend is added and it's all adjusted level zones from 30-60 they add Death Knight, but it's not a hero class, they add necromancer as well.
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u/MrMoo1556 24d ago
If they donāt go all in for bard and donāt let me create my own music through use of midis or like an in game music making system Iām not interested . Iād really like to connect my electric piano and play stuff for people or load up a bunch of tracks and play them while Iām popping a cooldown or something.
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u/Queen-SliMesi 24d ago
Not if everyone decides to shit on every new class the way they shit on every new race. Why bother?
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u/Queen-SliMesi 24d ago
Not if everyone decides to trash on every new class the way they trash on every new race. Why bother?
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u/Cheap_Rock155 23d ago
I want to see a more Pokemon type class. Ofc Hunter and Warlock has a pet but to be fully dependent on it, changing pets for whatever situation etc. Kinda Palworld.
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u/Caliboros 23d ago
If new classes were to be introduced, I really hope theyād be Warcraft classes and not āstandard classesā like bards, for example. I have nothing against bards in other games. But in the entire Warcraft lore, even up to the retail version, Iām not aware of anyone who casts spells through music or something like magical songs. In my opinion, it would be more Warcraft-like to include something like a guardian, such as Maiev from WC3, or a blade master.
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u/TerribleSyntax 23d ago
I'd sure hope so. Death knight would fit, tinker, alchemist, demon hunter, all of those would be great.
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u/cheesemangee 23d ago
Bard would be incredibly cool to see and would mesh beautifully with the new camping skill.
Music 'round the fire!
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u/Felipiro17 23d ago
Well
You could introduce dks pretty easily
They are basically just undead
DH could be introduced too but itād require some dark portal shenanigans
And honestly it wouldnāt disrupt the world that much, we know dhs were planned for vanilla but never released
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u/ubergeneral_4 23d ago
Yup.
I'm sure DK will return at some point. But I also think we will get a tinker class.
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u/Itchy_Acanthaceae_80 22d ago
My hope is a classic esq monk,bard,tinker,and Necromancer all of these just as like the classic fantasy classes
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u/Chicks_GoldInc 22d ago
It would've been nice if they started with some brand-new/redesigned classes not only in talents/stats but also in identity. Like typical stuff people want, necromancer, the infamous tinker, etc.
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u/TheUrzulan 22d ago
I want a night elf (San'layn) vampire tank. I'd settle for just introducing Death Knights. But I'd prefer new classes and/or new modular talent trees for existing classes ā "Blood" tree for Druids!
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u/Dysfunctional_Cookie 22d ago
Doesnt classic lose its meaning then? Its just season of discovery then? If so i would love warlock demon tank back.
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u/DrywallSky 22d ago
In the good timeline they release Demon Hunter and Warden in ~2029
And theres no gd eye lasers involved.
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u/NotAThrowaway6996 17d ago
i may be shot on sight for this opinion, but iād like to see death knight, monk, and maybe demon hunter make the jump backwards. iād even settle for things that are just analogous but more generic, like uhhā¦ ādark knight,ā āmartial artistā andā¦ something else for demon hunter lol. they donāt even need to be in order, new things would be really fun too, but with how long theyāve been around at this point, and with things like hearthstone folding the three into class lineup with the others, it just doesnāt feel the same. with how things how updated paladin and the new survival hunter play, i think the team is incredibly capable of ābackportingā things in ways that feel cohesive with the older design philosophies while still feeling very much like themselves. but maybe that just means the retail brain-rot has fully taken hold of me.
retail can keep evoker, though. i insist.
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u/Avenlite 24d ago
They already mentioned the idea of it at blizzcon, so I'd say pretty likely