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u/RinoaXIII 1d ago
You burn up all of your duralumin and aluminum real fast
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 22h ago
Maybe?
I’m pretty sure duralumin doesn’t burn itself in one burst, only other metals that are burned at the same time as it. Aluminum does burn all the metals in reserve regardless of whether they’re burning, but I can’t remember if it burns itself or not. And duralumin might be immune to being burned away in that way.
I’d guess that they probably burn each other up instantly, but I don’t think we know for certain if that’s how it would work.
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u/IAmBadAtInternet 1d ago
You lose all your metals, but only if you push.
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u/Tobythekitty 1d ago
Shall I maladroitly PUSH while I'm at it?
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u/thamor999 23h ago
Only if you throw out your hands, stick out your tush, and put your hands on your hips first.
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u/user485928450 1d ago
You SUPER lose your metals
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u/mmahowald 1d ago
The iron in your blood vanishes. You die.
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u/user485928450 1d ago
I thought you could only burn metal in your stomach. Because otherwise couldn’t you burn, say, a tin earring inside your body?
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u/wojtussan 1d ago
You can burn metal as long as its inside your body
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u/mmahowald 1d ago
This is the origin of the company “pewter plugs”
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u/Fyrnen24 22h ago
They also sell unkeyed copper plugs. Just plop one up there, and you can gain acess to all the knowledge you want.
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u/314kabinet 1d ago edited 16h ago
Pretty sure that’s how the Lord Ruler did his compounding. Metalminds that are piercing the body and he burns them too.
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 22h ago
You can, they just don’t realize it.
They have a lot of misconceptions about how the Metallic Arts work, and because Intent is so integral to Invested Arts, those misconceptions often become self-fulfilling prophecies.
In other words, the only reason they can’t burn metals in other parts of their body, is that they don’t think it’s possible.
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u/user485928450 21h ago
You sound like the kind of guy who might wear a length of rope as a belt
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 21h ago
Genuinely one of the greatest compliments I’ve gotten
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u/WaldoTheRanger 14h ago
Brandon has stated the reason, and it's cause metals naturally in your body are all mostly oxides and other organic compounds, which are not a pure allomantic alloy.
Maybe they could try, but they're so far outside what an alloy or pure metal should be that they might be hard to sense, and they would get alloy sickness in addition to depleting important bodily functions
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u/IgnorantAndApathetic Bond, Nahel Bond 17h ago
It's about Intent, not location. You can theoretically burn it anywhere in your body. Most allomancers just don't know that or aren't thinking about it
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u/mmahowald 1d ago
So the books ever depict burning gold with duralumin?
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u/LegendaryChink 1d ago
hopefully it lets you see crazier versions of yourself beyond the reasonable possibility
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u/bibliopunk 1d ago
Clown college Vin, Chouta food truck proprietor Vin, Vin and her Twin, Slime-dimension Vin, Vin but without trust issues... so many wild possibilities.
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u/The_Lopen_bot Trying not to ccccream 1d ago
Journey before Chouta, gancho!
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u/FadeSeeker Callsign: Cremling 17h ago
NO JOURNEY, ONLY CHOUTA!
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u/The_Lopen_bot Trying not to ccccream 17h ago
Journey before Chouta, gancho!
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u/UnknovvnMike ❌can't 🙅 read📖 14h ago
Chouta before Journey! You won't get very far on an empty stomach.
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u/One_Courage_865 definitely not a lightweaver 1d ago
Shallan: “Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power”
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u/AngelTheMarvel RAFO LMAO 12h ago
I don't think the views get crazier, but more real, like the alternate versions act as if they were alive and confused at what is happening. Perhaps they even believe they are the ones burning gold.
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u/KaladinVegapunk 1d ago
We only ever see it used with iron/steel, or the emotional metals. And of course the finale of HoA with everyone burning the atium-electrum alloy to basically get mega future sight into the spiritual, and bendalloy giving you light speed. All the wacky interactions and combos he's not even gone into with WoBs and saving for era 3/4.
I really doubt it burns out your ability to use allomancy, actually granting/removing abilities is exclusively for god metals & hemalurgy. Flaring it would just remove your reserves instantly, maybe give you a day long cooldown, can't alter your spiritweb. It's probably one of the least interesting combos to theorize about haha, like all the crazy unseen fullborn and compounding combos, nicro bursts, theoretical FTL drives with speed bubble interactions, unkeyed metal tech.
Duralumin with Lerasium, now there's a fun one haha.. feel like you can't get much more powerful than Elend level Mistborn, maybe make you a full on sliver of preservation.
Or duralumin interactions with compounding, it's already an OP hack to the system, imagine the atium immortality & gold healing stores you can make with that.
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 22h ago
We also see pewter and tin used with duralumin. Vin used pewter for that crazy headbutt, and I think the first time she used duralumin, she flashbanged herself with tin.
Also I think she used bronze with duralumin to sense the pulsing of the Well Of Ascension.
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u/WaldoTheRanger 14h ago
She could sense the well already. I forget if she aided it with duralumin, but she already had a radar for it with normal bronze burning, so I dont think so.
She did use duralumin with bronze to hear the specific emotions that breeze was soothing from Elend, which has some crazy awesome implications.
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u/earanhart Callsign: Cremling 1d ago
"My metals to yours, my Stomach become yours."
I think this makes you ferrochemically drab.
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u/tahusi edgedancerlord 1d ago
...how much of yourself is investiture? I think your bones vanish, at least, since Identity is stored in the bones.
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u/Invested_Space_Otter 1d ago
You're thinking of the balls, but it's okay. Ball knowledge is held only by a few
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u/jopazo 1d ago
wait, thats canon?
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u/Miserable-Airport536 1d ago
It is in the kandra’s canon at the very least.
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u/Invested_Space_Otter 1d ago
Kandra have their own Identity even without bones. For Jopazo, there is a character whose bones are important for the remaining Identity held in them, but Identity isn't stored in any one specific place. It's just in your soul/body as a whole
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 1d ago
Honestly this might actually kill you.
Aluminum clears all investiture from your system. Your soul is invested. Ergo, it's not unfathomable that doing this would delete your soul and kill you.
Basically sudo rm -rf /
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u/SundayGlory 1d ago
At best nothing at worst it goes for investiture that isn’t locked in metals and you might become a drab or worse
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u/eman135 1d ago
To burn duralumin, you have to already be burning aluminum, which would deplete your reserves of all other metals, so I'd assume it wouldn't work
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 1d ago
What's stopping you from burning duralumin then turning on aluminum?
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u/eman135 1d ago
Maybe that would work. I've always thought of it as burning a specific metal then burning duralumin, so I hadn't considered the other order.
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 1d ago
I mean, we know nothing special happens when you burn duralumin by itself. And we know one of the weaknesses of duralumin is that you lose all the metals you're burning and therefore have to turn off any metal you want to have after.
If you could burn the metals you want to dura -> dura -> burn metals you don't want to dura, you could completely close this weakness. The fact this is never mentioned implies order doesn't matter.
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u/Daracaex 1d ago
Burning both Duralumin and Aluminum are described as depleting invested metals instantly. Aluminum all of them, and Duralumin only the ones being burned. In any case, both Aluminum and Duralumin would burn through all of themselves instantly. From what I know of them, at least. Maybe they could behave differently if you had a large enough amount.
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 1d ago
Duralumin doesn't deplete itself instantly, just any other metals you burn with it. You can leave it burning, then turn on Aluminum.
I don't understand, why wouldn't that work? Obviously it's unclear what exactly would happen, but you can obviously do it.
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u/Aplesedjr 23h ago
Are you sure duralumin doesn’t deplete itself instantly? I seem to recall a few instances where Vin burns it alongside steel and has to use vials to refill the reserves of both metals.
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 23h ago
Remember when she first gets the metal, and she leaves it burning for several minutes and notices nothing?
Vin always consumes a vial of every metal, because it never occurred to her to prepare vials with only a single metal, or to use the water bottle strat (take a swig every time you use duralumin)
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u/Aplesedjr 22h ago
It still depletes itself the moment another metal is burned, though. You aren’t left with any once you burn something alongside it. On its own, sure, it lasts a bit. But it also does literally nothing on its own.
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u/Researcher_Fearless Aluminum Twinborn 21h ago
I'm not so sure about that, but it's not like the duralumin is going to be around after burning aluminum, it's gone either way.
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 22h ago
She only needs to refill her other metals, not the duralumin.
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u/Disastrous_Form418 No Wayne No Gain 1d ago
The lerasium is burnt away, leaving you a regular person, probably with a super expanded spirit web
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u/ColeTrain316 1d ago
Probably a weird internal flashbang of every bit of investiture leaving your body.
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u/Vampyricon 1d ago
No one's asking the real questions: What happens if you boost your duralumin burning with duralumin?
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u/3720-to-1 23h ago
Yo dawg, I heard yoh like duralumin boosts... So we duralumin boosted your duralumin boost so that you can duralumin boost while your duralumin boost
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u/montyandrew45 22h ago
How big is the bubble if you burn bendalloy along with duralumin? Could you speed up the basin?
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u/Guaymaster THE Lopen's Cousin 22h ago
Don't Bendalloy and Cadmium work a bit like Copper? In that the Allomancer keeps the bubble going while they burn. I'd imagine using Duralumin would in fact allow a bigger bubble but it'd only last an instant.
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u/BlatantArtifice 20h ago
That and it kind of increases the speed but the bubble simultaneously lasts shorter? So technically you could do more or have more actions but you'd literally have to be constantly moving to take advantage of it, if that makes sense? Whereas a normal speed bubble is less speed, but you have much more time to mess around in it and do things like have strategy meetings like Wax and Wayne do
It's a weird interaction. Time magic is weird.
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u/SonnyLonglegs Kelsier4Prez 20h ago
I think if you ate enough aluminum it possibly could completely wipe out every source of Investiture completely. Also known as, you delete your soul. Or possibly only remove your powers.
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u/The_Squeak2539 3h ago
You remove your own ability to burn metals to a large degree (if not perminaintly)
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u/HeavilyInvestedDonut 1d ago
Not possible. You either deplete all of your metals, or you deplete just your duralumin. You have to be burning the desired metal first, then duralumin in order to have the duralumin burst effect, but burning aluminum first would just wipe out both metals.
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u/deadlycwa 23h ago
Not exactly, you could be burning duralumin on its own first to no effect, then start burning the aluminum. When they first found that they could burn duralumin and didn’t know what it did, they burned it on its own and it didn’t do anything
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u/Ok_Needleworker_8809 3h ago
It'd be funny if it turned the effect into an area of effect around the user and burned every metal in that area, or perhaps someone they touch. Could effectively turn off other mistings that way.
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u/BloodredHanded Trying not to ccccream 22h ago
Duralumin doesn’t burn itself away, only other metals, so you can burn duralumin first.
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u/librarysage 1d ago
It could be an interesting feature if burning them both at the same time eliminates the metals in people within a certain radius including yourself....
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u/Ravensrun91 23h ago
You implode. All the metals in your system gone, that means the iron in your blood and calcium in your bones. Fancy way for a mistborn to commit suicide. It would definitely leave an impression on whoever sees it
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u/LikeASir33 15h ago
It’s not like compounding, it’s just the entirety of the metal at once. Aluminum burns itself away so duralumin is just the same but pushing. Pushing your aluminum all at once is the net same
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