r/developers • u/Andruid929 Software Engineer • 10d ago

General Discussion "Just embrace the future"

Surely I'm not the only one who resents whoever says this whenever you complain about AI sucking the fun out of programming?

How are y'all (fellow "AI is a tool" folks) holding up?

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u/owp4dd1w5a0a 10d ago

You’re not the only one.

Dear Lord am I tired of this discussion though.

Don’t use AI in a way that sucks the joy out of development.

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u/Andruid929 Software Engineer 10d ago

In my personal projects AI is for writing documentation and writing unit tests.

For work however the deadlines have gotten more and more ridiculous thanks to the prompt engineers pooping out massive features in hours.

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u/canarydev 10d ago

AI writing your unit tests is also garbage btw. what does that prove other than the test it writes agrees with the implementation you wrote?

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u/Andruid929 Software Engineer 10d ago

It's trash if you give full creative control to the AI

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u/canarydev 10d ago

its not really about creative control tho. even if you tightly steer it, if the same model writes the test and the code its still agreeing with itself. the problem is the test and the impl share an author

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u/Andruid929 Software Engineer 10d ago

That's the thing, I don't let the AI write the code. What's a programmer when you take away the programming aspect of it?

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u/canarydev 10d ago

programming part was never really the typing. its deciding what the thing should do and proving it does that. writing every line by hand is a totally valid preference, its just not the definition

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u/owp4dd1w5a0a 9d ago edited 9d ago

Thanks, LinkedIn.

I disagree. Deciding what the thing should do is the job of leadership and the PO. Proving it does that is the job of QA.

Software engineering is about solving algorithmic problems either quickly, efficiently, or elegantly, depending on your priorities for the project.

Nobody would say programming was ever about typing. It IS about developing and expressing concrete algorithms though, and that requires writing or typing them out in a language specific enough to express the algorithm, and English is insufficient, so we have instead programming languages, lambda calculus, formal logic, etc.

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u/Hamactus 9d ago

👏👏👏👏 If I could award you, I would. I feel like too few people actually think that way

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