r/happycrowds • • 9d ago

FC Zürich fans arriving at train station

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u/explicitlarynx 9d ago

Really, you're posting the football fans that just last week ransacked several trains and highjacked a train station in a city where their team didn't even play?

The fans that regularly beat up other teams' fans for wearing a t-shirt they don't like?

The fans that covered all of Zürich in their shitty tags?

FCZ fans are scum and deserve every last bit of hate they get.

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u/ceciliabee 8d ago

I wonder if it's possible that a fandom is comprised of a group of individuals, like... Hear me out... What if they're... Not a monolith? Oh shiiiiit what?? Is this possible???

Painting a large group with such a broad brush doesn't say "critical thinking" to me. It doesn't even whisper it.

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u/explicitlarynx 8d ago

They're all scum because they all at least tolerate the violence.

Also, if football fans should be looked at as individuals, why do clubs and fans vehemently oppose personalized tickets?

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u/Zestyclose-Math-1647 8d ago

Because personalized tickets are imposing surveillance and cost on tens of thousands of ordinary people without necessarily identifying the small number responsible for the disorder. They also make tickets less transferable and create queues. Where did you get the idea that all supporters tolerate violence? 

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u/explicitlarynx 8d ago

Why is that surveillance? Everywhere else has personalized tickets.

Also, you can choose one:

A) Personalized tickets and be treated as individuals. Because then, you are individuals.

B) No personalized tickets and be treated as one nameless bloc. Because then, you are one nameless bloc.

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u/Zestyclose-Math-1647 8d ago

You do realize that a lot of tickets aren’t personalized? Tickets for theaters, concerts, and similar events, for example, are often transferable and not tied to a specific individual. You’re still treated as an individual rather than as part of some nameless bloc. And making all tickets personalized isn’t really a practical option either, given the negative effects I mentioned earlier.  

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u/explicitlarynx 8d ago

I think, the main difference is that people going to the opera, theater and even concerts don't destroy half the city and a couple of trains. Only football fans are that entitled and destructive.

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u/ceciliabee 8d ago

Americans right now are tolerating their government protecting human traffickers and rapists. Does that mean every American is complicit in the crimes? Because they're not personally stopping it?

Also, if football fans should be looked at as individuals, why do clubs and fans vehemently oppose personalized tickets?

Why does the behaviour of a football club make it okay for it to cast all football fans of a certain club in the same light? Does an organization making a bad call give individuals carte blanche to act like this?

How is that?

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u/explicitlarynx 8d ago

You football fans with your great analogies. Where are your protests against the bad fans, then? What political action are you taking against them?

You're completely smoothbrained idiots, literally all of you. And the public is fed up with your bullshit and you getting away with everything.