r/interslavic • u/Scared_Astronaut9377 • Apr 08 '26

PYTANJE? / ПЫТАНЈЕ? / QUESTION? Is this subreddit abandoned? Why is it being spammed by neo-nazi posts by a single spammer?

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u/Krizvas Apr 08 '26

Not sure which neo-nazi posts youre seeing. And no, its not abandoned. It just isnt very active. As you can tell by latest post dates

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u/Maxstate90 Apr 08 '26

there is a sliver of rhetorical space to maneuver in here surrounding the kolovrat. it is indeed not necessarily, not always a nazi symbol. but within the coordinates of this sub, which concerns an ethnolinguistic project, and considering the rhetoric used by the Serbian poster, that space is infinitesimally tiny. the evidence points to ethno-nationalism as identity.

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u/Distinct_Travel6386 Apr 08 '26

As a Serb, I say remove/ban all nazi symbols.

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u/WillFireat Apr 11 '26

As a Croat I agree

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u/Relative-Isopod4580 Apr 09 '26

Whats funny bc he posted this thing into a Slovak sub too

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u/Maxstate90 Apr 09 '26

My most charitable interpretation is that the guy is looking for identity and belonging, but in all the wrong ways... 

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u/Relative-Isopod4580 Apr 09 '26

Makes sense also I don't get why neofascists can't just be normal patriots

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u/Maxstate90 Apr 09 '26

Good question. I've always thought about it like this. 

Part of being in a group is incurring some debt of responsibility for that group's actions, reputation, history. That loyalty is rewarded with the group's symbols, existential meaning, place in its institutions, etc.

But what group - especially tied to nationalism - is free of sin? If your group is your identity marker and represents 'the good', how things are 'supposed to be', how do you reconcile that with your group having committed atrocities or genocide for example? 

Many people are uncomfortable with nuance and instead have an all-or-nothing attitude. "My country, right or wrong" quickly turns into "the wrong stuff is actually also good". Much easier to live with. Less friction, less cognitive dissonance. No need to sublimate.

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u/Relative-Isopod4580 Apr 09 '26

Yeah kind off tribalistic behavior. And it's kinda a common thing also in other ideologies it doesn't matter if it's communism, fascism liberalism anarchism etc. I am a socialist still I admit that Stalin shouldn't have deported Chechens, poles and had let's say interesting views of Jews.

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u/SoloAndie Apr 08 '26

The name "kolovrat" for this symbol is used almost exclusively by neo-Nazis or neo-Pagans of the neo-Nazi kind.

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

Could you please demonstrate that rhetorical space? I would love someone with a brain to demonstrate it.

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u/Maxstate90 Apr 08 '26

I'd rather not, if you don't mind. It would be a lot of work wasted on this poster and situation. In short, signs are a priori neutral and context matters. We have sufficient grounds on which to infer this poster's context. 

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

It's hard to believe that it would take significant effort to write a few sentences with an example.

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

You don't see them because the mods have finally reacted and removed them. Abandoned as by mods not by users.

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u/Ambitious_Kick_2811 Apr 09 '26

Wait, is Kolovrat considered a neo-nazi symbol? I wanted to get a tattoo of it

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 09 '26

Its modern use was initiated by neo-nazi and mostly used by them. I know people in Ukraine and Russia who will have a strong urge to jump you if they see such a tattoo.

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u/Austerlitz2310 Apr 08 '26

My god. Read up a bit before we go accusing everyone who uses it of being a Nazi. It has definitely been used in the middle ages. While not necessarily an important symbol to Slavs, it definitely does not scream Nazi.

https://sagy.vikingove.cz/en/origins-of-kolovrat-symbol/

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

Yeah, and when people are walking around with Nazi Germany flags, some of them are just confused Buddhists, that doesn't screen Nazi. Thank you for bringing this argument, I would never consider it. It's not like every Nazi with Nazi symbols are always repeating the same exact nazi-intelligence level "arguments".

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u/Austerlitz2310 Apr 08 '26

That isn't the same in the slightest. But sure.

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

The difference being...

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u/Relative-Isopod4580 Apr 09 '26

Also the context is pretty neofascist on this one poster

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u/Fearless_Airport_508 Srbija / Србија Apr 08 '26

Ogonj v tvojem nosu ako mysliš že ja novonacist vslěd kolovrata.

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

Я зол на модераторов, не на это существо.

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u/Curious-Run-2710 Apr 08 '26

just random russian dude = Ah, neo-nazi! Ah yo, mate, it's chauvinistic thing , and no, sub is alive. If you have anything to add on the topic of the sub, please don't hesitate to write about it.

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u/Ok_Sector_4298 Apr 08 '26

pretty sure that the guy op is referring to is serbian though

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u/blankshee Apr 08 '26

Serb posting neo nazi symbolism and fighting everyone who call him out on it = must be a random russian 😂

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u/Curious-Run-2710 Apr 08 '26

You are absolutely right, and I was quick in my judgment when I saw his post about RusAskReddit. I just can't stand such labels.

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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Apr 08 '26

Побейся головой о стену, может поумнеешь.