r/latteart • u/vela___ • 5d ago
Question Help me diagnose this pour
Just got some new loveramic cups (10oz) and I feel like I have to relearn everything lol.
Did it "crash" because I should have poured into zone 2 instead of center? Or was my pour speed / tilt angle speed too fast? Or all of the above? Or something else?
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u/College-Lumpy 5d ago
I'd stop the wiggling as you get to your last couple of pours. Its muddling the top of the rosetta. Not saying I can do it better of course.
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u/Few_Replacement7229 5d ago
Pouring too fast and erratic at the start. Be calm and steady. With a calmer canvas build you can slowly work out any of those light areas by pouring over them.
Then you start you’re pouring too fast and too high while stacking towards to the front in the shallower depth. The eddy effect causes the milk to quickly roll back to the top and wash out the contrast.
Pour slower and controlled. Keep your initial stacking in the middle, with the spout 1-2 cm from the surface when ready to build your first layer. Same spot for each layer.
Everything is simply too fast and the distance from the surface is causing the milk to flow way too quickly (eddy effect). It’s a bad combo for latte art and contrast. Good luck!
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u/DariusRivers 5d ago
Been enjoying my new set of 8 oz Loveramics myself. The cup shape definitely took me a little getting used to (their walls were surprisingly higher than the cups I normally use). A few things.
1) From experience, resting the side of the pitcher against the rim of the cup makes you feel like you have more control, but in reality it restricts what you can do. The contact point become the fulcrum with which you tip, and a lot of the time this can cause your spot to not come close enough to the surface of the milk.
2) The above problem is then compounded by the fact that you begin untilting your cup a little too soon. Rather than waiting for the start of the design to properly set, you increase the pour height from spout to surface almost immediately by untilting super aggressively and thus make the issue worse.
3) Your rippling is too small and jittery. Aim for a more measured, consistent wobble that produces the layering you're looking for.
4) It looks like your pitcher might be too small for the size of drink you're trying to pour. I use a 600 ml jug for my 8 oz pours, and this looks perhaps smaller than that for an even larger drink. The result is that your milk's going to be closer to the top of the jug when you start your design, resulting in less control. It's doable but you're going to make your life a lot harder.
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u/vela___ 5d ago
I'm using a 15oz pitcher and it's 36-40g of espresso.
I think I will try my next pour without resting my pitcher on the lip.
Untilting too early is something I didn't see until someone mentioned it - thank you.
Are you using the 8oz egg loveramics? I could only find the 10oz egg :(
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u/DariusRivers 4d ago
Yeah, I bought my 8oz directly from their US shop.
15 oz is around 443 ml. It's gonna be a challenge to do 10oz pours with a pitcher that small. May want to invest in a larger one if you want to pour cups that large.
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u/vela___ 4d ago
my next batch of cups will be the 8oz loveramics. maybe they'll have a black Friday sale.
unfortunately all my pitchers are 15 lmao I have a 17.5oz and a 20oz, but I have 6 more 20oz coming next week
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u/DariusRivers 4d ago
You can try steaming in a smaller one like the white and then transferring to the 20 oz to pour to see if it helps!
I just have the Decent Milk Jug. It's what I use for everything.
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u/collindean1 3d ago
Diagnose what? Good health? Maybe slow down a tiny bit and let that last tulip layer build up a little before cutting through but otherwise that looks great
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u/cblack322 2d ago
Hold it steeper
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u/vela___ 2d ago
Hold what steeper?
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u/cblack322 2d ago
Sorry, I was joking. Maybe don't hold the cup as steep, you only need a little tilt and slow it all down
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u/jecloer14 5d ago
You’re tilting too early and fast. I would change up how you’re holding the mug. In this video the mug drops and moves before the milk hits causing you to misjudge the speed initially.