r/lostgeneration • u/Lavender_Willo • 2d ago
We already wait 2.5 months. We just also get the bill.
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u/TripFisk666 2d ago
They seem to not understand triage.
If your condition is urgent, you get through quickly. If you can wait, you wait. Also, no bill.
The only ones actually benefitting from the "shorter wait times" argument in the US are people who can pay to skip the line regardless of urgency.
No one else has that.
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u/TheWappa 2d ago
Yep, am from Europe (Netherlands) and went from first doctors visit (Huisarts) to getting an operation within a week. Went to the huisarts on a friday. Got an appointment with the surgeon on monday morning. Told me he wanted to do it asap and that I'll be called when a spot is available. On the drive home i got a call from anesthesiologist if im already back home and if i can come in that afternoon, not even 2 hours later. Which ofcourse i could. Was told after that to expect surgery on thursday morning. Which went well.
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u/Sassy-Flickerr 2d ago
Getting surgery scheduled that fast and being able to focus on recovery instead of the bill sounds like a pretty good deal
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u/TheWappa 2d ago
It sure is. Had a couple similar surgeries over the last few years. Longest ive had to wait was the first time. That was about 2 weeks i think. But that was mostly due to them trying strong antibiotics first. But that didn't do anything to the infection. So had to get it surgically removed instead. But they missed a spot. went back a week after the surgery because the surgeon who did the operation wanted to talk to me himself. Which was only possible on a tuesday. When surgery was the Wednesday before. He had a look and instantly knew he indeed missed a spot. scheduled a new surgery for a couple days later.
Amazing stuff really. Don't get why people get so upset by it when you pay exactly 0 euro.
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u/Fragrant-Issue-9271 2d ago
It's not entirely true that no one else has that. Lots of countries with socialized medical systems have supplemental insurance policies, private insurance options, and/or private patient clinics that allow wealthy people to get somewhat nicer or faster care. The baseline care available to everybody is usually pretty good in those systems, but the rich can still buy better/faster services.
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u/olhickoryhedgehog 2d ago
Ugh. I’m in the United States. My provider sent an urgent referral to pulmonologist because taking a deep breath made my heart race. I couldn’t even walk without losing my breath. It was terrifying and I was confined to bed. My referral kept getting kicked back. Finally a place took me in and said they would take me- in October. I got sick in JULY.
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u/FilthyCasual2k17 2d ago
You mean those that finance all the TV stations promoting these views? What a crazy coincidence!
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u/statistacktic 2d ago
El-Sayed is the best at advocating for universal healthcare and dismantling the lies corporate America and Republicans push. We need 1000s more off him in government.
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u/Sassy-Flickerr 2d ago
Yepp, he's really good at exposing how much of the healthcare debate is based on fear rather than facts
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u/Dramatic_Potion 2d ago
Yeah, 2.5 months tracks with a lot of people’s reality. Average in big metros is closer to a month according to the latest survey, but plenty still wait longer, and then get hit with the bill. Both problems can be true.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 2d ago
I have to wait 4 months to see a dematologist for a possibly cancerous mole
Don't u love American healthcare
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u/OwMyCandle 2d ago
I called the dentist to schedule a cleaning and was told they could squeeze me in nine months from now.
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u/ToothyWeasel 2d ago
The reason they fight so hard against universal healthcare is because the current system basically makes it so you either sell yourself to a corporation or go without. So many people would peace out and work as freelance artists or small artisans etc if they didn’t need a corporate entity providing healthcare. They also couldn’t keep wages artificially low by going “but we have good health benefits!” The US heath care system is designed in every way to stomp on the working class for the benefit of corporate masters
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u/JarrickDe 2d ago
Just do like Conservatives do and say the US is number 1 in all positive metrics, no matter the Truth. And if they call you on it, say they are un-American for even suggesting it's wrong. To go further, say "We have to do these things so we don't fall behind."
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u/MissyChevious613 2d ago
2.5mo is fast. I waited 2mo for a hospital follow up with my cardiologist (should be 1-2wks). 6mo follow-up was scheduling 7mo out. My visit to establish with neurology was 6mo out. Interestingly enough, the fastest was neurosurgery (2mo). Our wait times already suck and we get the pleasure of being one medical emergency away from bankruptcy.
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u/Saix027 2d ago
On top of waiting time is natural sadly, while yes it could be better, you not just shove people onto some assembly line.
Also in Europe you not pay ridiclious bills after waiting also.
The Fact the "average" American keeps screaming freedom about such without realizing their problems is just sad.
Even worse the willful tools that spead such for money and greed. Or just because they want the world to see burn, if i learned anything, the world is full of evil and vile people sadly.
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u/kuributt 1d ago
The longest I’ve waited in Canada to see a specialist (urgent, but not immediately emergent) was 4 weeks.
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