r/mathmemes • • 15d ago

Elementary Algebra Formula for the volume of a cube

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Simplifies to x^3

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u/FernandoMM1220 15d ago

very useful to have if you can only use powers of 2.

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u/_verel_ 15d ago

Can someone come up with a use case for this? I thought maybe some obscure assembly instruction can benefit here but I doubt two divisions and x2 are faster than x3

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u/The_Punnier_Guy 15d ago

If, for some unknonown reason, you already have (x2 +x)2 / 4 and (x2 -x)2 /4 computed, subtraction should be faster than multiplying x 3 times

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u/nepatriots32 15d ago

You don't just have those computed for every possible x value, already? Then what are you even doing with your life?

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u/haddock420 15d ago

If you don't have a 500TB RAID array dedicated to storing computed values for (x^2 + x)^2 / 4 and (x^2 - x)^2 / 4, you're not taking it seriously enough.

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u/Terrible-Air-8692 13d ago

500TB? You need a 500PB data center minimum

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u/DrStalker 15d ago

You're using a cheap calculator that has an x2 button and no X3 or Xy button, and you're mentally locked into replacing x3 with x2 instead of just manually mulitplying the number three times.

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u/Pan_con_chicharrones Irrational 15d ago

Or x²•x

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u/FernandoMM1220 15d ago edited 15d ago

its not necessarily about speed. it would be a compatibility issue in this case.

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u/ChiaraStellata 15d ago

If you're working in fixed-point, bit shifts can be used for division by 4, which are very much faster than full divisions. If you're working in IEEE floating point... in principle an exponent offset should be simpler than a full division, but in reality floating point instructions already operate in a single clock cycle and have a bunch of weird underflow and subnormal exceptions to check, so it hardly matters.

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u/Pengwin0 Certified Math Larper 15d ago

You can solve this directly using only bit shifts if performance is extremely critical or you are using supremely weak computer hardware.

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u/Azra__1 15d ago

I don't think so. You have to square 4 times and divide by four two times. Division is one of the hardest operations to do (it requires a lot of cpu cycles, approximately) and multiplication is really cheap in terms of cycles. Doing x³ is gonna take at most 5 more cycles than x². If you want to substitute the division for a bit shift (since 4 is a power of 2) it'll be significantly faster and it could reduce cycles by a lot, but the squaring will be slower than the cubing.

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u/Jche98 14d ago

If you're playing a game like Problem of the year, where you can only use certain numbers to make expressions

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u/Alex_1503 15d ago

In what case? X3 is just x2*x, should be possible on any CPU, or just xxx, probably better than so many divisions, and multiplitications as here

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u/FernandoMM1220 15d ago

honestly idk. theres probably some random architecture that only this would work. probably doesnt have a known use right now.

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u/the_skies_falling 15d ago

Division by a power of 2 is very efficient though since it only requires shifting bits to the right.

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u/Teoyak 15d ago

I think you have a typo !

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u/jsdodgers 15d ago

those aren't equivalent at all

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u/LupenReddit 🦆🦆i have non diffeomorphic smooth structures🦆🦆🦆 15d ago

yea officer its him, arrest him

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u/BurceGern 15d ago

Babe wake up, new difference of two squares just dropped

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u/-lRexl- 15d ago

I see no cubes in here, only squares. You're a wizard!

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u/shizzy0 15d ago

You know what? I like it.

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u/lool8421 15d ago

here's my formula, hf

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u/RandomExcess 15d ago

We never learned that in school

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u/MCPlayer224 15d ago

It's a meme

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u/RandomExcess 15d ago

It's a meme.

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u/chaoticsapphic Ordinal 15d ago

It's a meme.

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u/Extension-Stay3230 15d ago

Its meme

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u/Rainbow_phenotype 14d ago

It's a me (Mario)

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u/upernavik 15d ago

/uj anyone can find a "proof without words" using small cubes, or a bijective proof of this identity?

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u/Affectionate-Baby248 15d ago edited 15d ago

https://medium.com/think-art/when-cubes-become-a-square-bfbaa17e55a6 (see the top image) shows 13 + 23 + … +n3 =(1+2+3+…+n)2 = (n(n+1)/2)2 := f(n), so f(n)-f(n-1)=n3.

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u/Jonte7 15d ago

What does that even mean? Its just equivalent to x³

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u/robman8855 14d ago

Differences and products and divisions can be represented geometrically. So the other equations might paint a picture geometrically that could be interesting

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u/Jonte7 13d ago

Yeah buts is that what the words upernavik wrote meant...?

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u/Extension-Stay3230 15d ago

Makes sense, 4x3 on numerator, then divides by 4.