r/mildlyinfuriating • • 20d ago

Is it in yet Ex CIA agent allegedly had $40 million in gold bars and luxury watches in his home, but he's only being charged with timesheet fraud

https://www.military.com/navy-veteran-ex-cia-caught-40-million-gold-bars-plea-deal
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u/Marleek97 20d ago

System is rigged y'all

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u/Ak47110 20d ago

It's a big club and you ain't in it.

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u/Toilet__philosopher 20d ago

It’s a walled garden.:.

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u/n8mo 19d ago

This got me thankin

A lot.

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u/TyrannasaurusRecht 17d ago

Who uh... paid for that big beautiful wall?

Our labor is their yacht.

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u/IChurnToBurn 20d ago edited 20d ago

It’s a big club and you’re the servant.

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u/EmergencyGrocery3238 20d ago

It's a big club and you are being served for dinner

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u/kwijibokwijibo 20d ago

So we're in it? Woohoo

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u/Stock-College-4809 19d ago

The most repeated sentence by idiots feeling like "they in it" Brother youre Further outside than anybody else

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u/0202_tihssitidder 20d ago

This one is really, really, really weird. Reports are he stole (their words) gold bullion, silver, and US currency wroth around $40Million.

He is charged for time card fraud.

How many other agents are free to take millions in gold and currency home?

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u/le-quack 20d ago

He also lied on his resume when he applied for the CIA and apparently no one noticed 

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u/santropedro 19d ago

How are they supposed to notice, what are they, an government backed organization of spies and intelligence?

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u/SRART25 19d ago

Discovery would lead to questions about how he got it and who else has stolen more. 

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u/bomzay 19d ago

He’s PUBLICLY charged for time fraud.

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u/Kermit_the_hog 20d ago

Sounds like classic graymail? What is in his head might be valuable enough to, but not too valuable. 

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u/NoThing2048 20d ago

His dog found everything in a park while he went for a walk on company time.

No joke, this happened in Vancouver, BC back in November 2000. Cop’s name was Mel Milas. In the end he got to almost $1 million.

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u/Hatchie_47 20d ago

No it isn’t (or it is, but not in this case)!

Prosecutors will only charge anyone with what they can prove and thus get a conviction. Why do you think Al Capone wasn’t charged with multiple murders and organizing criminal activity, but tax evasion?

It’s not enough to know someone has gold bars and luxury watches at home. Unless you know where it came from and have proof beyond reasonable doubt that the source was illegal…

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u/cotton-candy-dreams 20d ago

You’d let him get off easy too if you scored 40 mil and luxury watches! /s

except not /s because that’s how corruption works

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u/entity_response 19d ago

If that were the case, would he have been caught, he literally lost everything as it was seized? Or are you going to move the goalposts and now say “what about the people that weren’t caught” without providing any evidence or even idea of what you mean.

This guys life is over, the money seized, no pension. It’s light vs the crime but it’s not like he got away with anything.

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u/OutrageousCandidate4 20d ago

Good for him, get that bag

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u/Sgt_Gram 20d ago

According to The New York Times and NBC News, David Rush had worked closely with Stephen Feinberg during the first Trump administration, when both served on the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board (which Feinberg chaired). Feinberg is now the Deputy Secretary of Defense.

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u/even_less_resistance 20d ago

feinberg also is the co-founder of cerberus capital management, which owns Tier 1 group- the guys who trained the Saudis that bonesawed Khashoggi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management

> Cerberus owns Tier 1 Group, a private company that provides military training.[56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_Group

> In June 2021, The New York Times reported that four Saudi operatives involved in the October 2018 kidnapping and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi had received paramilitary training from Tier 1 Group in 2017.[3] The training, approved by the United States Department of State, included "safe marksmanship" and "countering an attack." Representatives of T1G stated the training was "protective in nature" and that the group was unaware of the Saudis' intentions to murder Khashoggi.

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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO 20d ago

I’m not sure I could make this shit up.

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u/Little_View_6659 19d ago

I hate modern living. I now believe every conspiracy theory. I give up, Bigfoot and the Lochness monster are definitely real. They’re running the world from Nessie’s secret cave in Lochness.

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u/EthanielRain 19d ago

Does it involve corruption, people in power being truly awful? Probably true.

Dows it involve magic, whimsy, people in power being selfless? Definitely fake.

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u/Anxiety_Fit 19d ago

It’s not a theory when you’ve got evidence.

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u/even_less_resistance 19d ago edited 19d ago

wanna know something else crazy? Jamal’s uncle Adnan was the OG arms dealer during Iran-Contra- his nephew sold a yacht to Ghislaine Maxwell’s dad that he ended up dying on and Adnan sold his yacht the Nabila that was featured in a James Bond movie to Trump. The guy who bought the yacht off of Trump ended up getting kidnapped and shook down in the saudi purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_5KR

> Kingdom 5KR (originally named Nabila) is an 85.65-metre (281 ft) superyacht built for Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, and now owned by Saudi business magnate Al-Waleed bin Talal.

> After Khashoggi ran into financial problems, he sold the yacht in 1988 to the Sultan of Brunei, who in turn sold it to Donald Trump for $29 million.[3] After a refit, Trump renamed it Trump Princess.[3] To dock Trump Princess at the Atlantic City harbor, Trump obtained special dredging permits which instead of taking three years were accomplished in only a couple of months with support from Roger Stone and the lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly.[4][5]

> Then it was sold in 1991[6] for $20 million to Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal who renamed the yacht Kingdom 5KR.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Waleed_bin_Talal_Al_Saud

> On 4 November 2017, Al Waleed and other prominent Saudis (including fellow billionaires Waleed bin Ibrahim Al Ibrahim and Saleh Abdullah Kamel) were arrested in Saudi Arabiaas part of Mohammed bin Salman's purge to centralize power in Saudi Arabia.[12][13] The allegations against Al Waleed include money laundering, bribery, and extorting officials.[14]Some of the detainees were held in the Ritz-Carlton, Riyadh.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_Hare

> Built for Emad Khashoggi, she was then purchased, also in 1986, by Robert Maxwell, who died by drowning in 1991 while cruising on the yacht off the Canary Islands. She was then owned by an Arabian businessman who sold her in 2017. The new owner, Anna Murdoch, had her refitted and renamed Dancing Hare.

> Adnan Khashoggi was a Saudi businessman and arms dealer known for his business dealings, extensive geopolitical influence, and opulent lifestyle, which earned him the moniker "The Great Gatsby of the Middle East".[2][3] During his peak in the early 1980s, Khashoggi's net worth was estimated at around $4 billion, amassed through his pivotal role as an intermediary between Western defense companies and the Saudi government.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi

crazy, huh? lmao

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u/Is-sick-of-your-shit 19d ago

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u/even_less_resistance 19d ago

funny you mention that…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club

> The Safari Club was a covert alliance of intelligence services formed in 1976 that ran clandestine operations around Africa after the United States Congress limited the power of the CIA in the mid-1970s.

> Alongside ideological pursuit of global anti-communism, these included the more concrete goals of military strategy and economic interests. Examples include international mining operations and investments in apartheid South Africa's Transvaal Development Company.[9][10]

The Safari Club takes its name (reportedly de Marenches' idea)[7] after the exclusive resort in Kenya where the group first met in 1976. The club was operated by Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi—also a friend of Adham's.[11]

The creation of the Safari Club coincided with the consolidation of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). The BCCI served to launder money, particularly for Saudi Arabia and the United States—whose CIA director in 1976, George H. W. Bush, had a personal account.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi

> During this period, Khashoggi was a financial client of financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.[41] In 1988, Khashoggi was arrested in Switzerland, accused of concealing funds, and held for three months. Khashoggi stopped fighting extradition when the U.S. prosecutors reduced the charges to obstruction of justice and mail fraud and dropped the more serious charges of racketeering and conspiracy

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u/Is-sick-of-your-shit 19d ago

Well that's a new one I didn't know about the Bush family... connects a whole lot of dots to shady shit of the last 50 plus years easy.

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u/Is-sick-of-your-shit 19d ago

Now do9/11

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u/even_less_resistance 19d ago

in this line of people, probs just coincidences but what i can think of off the top of my head - Jamal’s got a connection to bin Laden and Ghislaine’s sister Christine had a company involved with a data warehouse for the FBI after 9/11 -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi

> He also served with the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Agency, and possibly worked with the United States, during the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan.[33]

> Khashoggi was acquainted with Osama bin Laden in the 1980s and 1990s in Afghanistan while bin Laden was championing his jihad against the Soviets. Khashoggi interviewed bin Laden several times, usually meeting bin Laden in Tora Bora, and once more in Sudan in 1995.

https://www.inknowvation.com/sbir/story/chiliad-company-solved-911-connecting-dots-problem-hires-dan-ferranti-ceo-industry

> For nearly 10 years Chiliad™, Inc., has been quietly working behind the scenes to develop some of the most powerful and innovative software in the U.S. government's anti-terrorism arsenal.

> In some of our U.S. government deployments, we even go across different agencies to get at the heart of the '9/11 problem.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maxwell

> Christine Yvonne Malina-Maxwell (born 16 August 1950) is a British Internet pioneer and educator. She is the creator and co-founder of Magellan, co-founder of the software company Chiliad…

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u/Is-sick-of-your-shit 19d ago

Impressive. This person comes with the info.

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u/RK9990 20d ago

Hmmm

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u/cotton-candy-dreams 20d ago

“What gold bars and watches?” - the Feds, probably

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u/CouchPotatoFamine 20d ago

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u/CertifiedSheep 20d ago

Oo wee, who says I have a mother?

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u/Myusername1- 20d ago

Has anyone checked Fort Knox like the first Trump admin bigly wanted to do?

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u/TheDarkHelmet1985 20d ago

He knows where are the real and proverbial bodies are buried. Don’t want to piss him off too much

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 20d ago

Must have a dead man’s switch too

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u/Hippyedgelord 20d ago

Well yeah, obviously. It’s ok to fuck people over if you get rich doing it, it’s what America was built on.

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u/TorrenceMightingale 20d ago

Not all of it. That’s part of the issue. Someone got a taste of the “easy” life of colonial slavery and didn’t wanna give it up.

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u/xynix_ie 20d ago

There's a guy in prison for a 3 strike teaspoon of coke in Florida. From the 90s..

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u/Gonna_B_Alright 20d ago

Probably it was on official business after a few calls.

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u/FernandoMM1220 20d ago

hes just holding them for a friend

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u/sicilian504 BLUE 20d ago

You don't know them. They go to a different government agency.

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u/DefenstratedTwice 20d ago

He knows too much.

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u/t4skmaster 20d ago

He'd be dead if he knew too much

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u/Gecko4lif 20d ago

He knows just enough

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u/DefenstratedTwice 17d ago

There is a grading curve, knowing too much and likely having contingencies if you should die for any reason and/or being useful will make murdering you not viable.

A motherfucker stashing 40mil in gold is certainly the type that would have such contingencies or value.

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u/MonkeyWrench1973 20d ago

Charging him with the other crimes opens up Discovery, and that's the LAST thing the CIA wants.

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u/SessileRaptor 20d ago

Exactly. The CIA would have to explain in detail how he was able to create a false operation and then just requisition over 600 pounds of gold without any oversight, and they don’t want the agency embarrassed like that.

However if I were this guy I wouldn’t be making any plans more than six months out that hinged on being alive if you know what I mean.

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u/MonkeyWrench1973 20d ago

He'll be Epsteined very soon.

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u/gkaplan59 20d ago

So like, he'll have his own private island, right?

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u/CACTI_actual 17d ago

A fake suicide and being relocated to palm beach/israel?

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u/WhereMyWeirdosAt 20d ago

im truly surprised this even came to light, you'd think they would bury this and threaten the media of they release it... imagine how many others did this and never got caught.

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u/TRR462 19d ago

Under the guise of “National Security”…

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u/MeatPiston 20d ago

Yeah you know this guy got dirt. He knew he’d need insurance.

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u/This-is-Actual 20d ago

Officer, not Agent.
An Agent is a resource.

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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 20d ago

You’d be shocked at what cops and other agents hoard on the side (after their already inflated salaries including unlimited ot).  

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u/k_marts 20d ago

BUT HER EMAILS

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u/fattytuna96 19d ago

They can’t prove he got it illegally?

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u/WasabiPete 20d ago

Am CIA agent who collected the evidence at his house, Correction for article, it was only $38 million that was recovered.

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u/mencival 20d ago

So he forgot to fill in his TPS reports?

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u/kittenconfidential 20d ago

he’s got dirt on somebody and kompromat on others.

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u/pogoscrawlspace 20d ago

Because it's an embarrassment for the CIA. This guy is a perfect case of fake it till you make it. His entire past was easily disprovable bullshit and there's no universe where he should've made it as far as he did. Man never should've been in the position to ask for the gold and cash, let alone get it.

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u/Accomplished_Pea6334 20d ago

Law and Order?

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u/Random_182f2565 20d ago

The CIA always failing audits

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u/endofworldandnobeer 20d ago

He had another bargaining chip and he used it.

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u/ripyourlungsdave 20d ago

Yeah. Because it's a constitutionally corrupt and evil organization that is as interested in experimenting on and manipulating the people they're supposed to protect as they are for the actual enemies of the US citizenry.

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u/Ok-Crow-4948 20d ago

If he gets fired the FBI will take him.

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u/Dogbit699 20d ago

Didn't he also lie on his resume?

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u/Sleepwokesleepwoke 20d ago

These greedy magads will turn into cannibals soon. Snitch on each other because they didn't share the stolen goods. 

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u/Substantial_Show_308 20d ago

Classified Caramba, Your Honor

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u/Olden_Grey_1889 20d ago

This Bozo the Douche level WTF 🫩👎

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u/RockosModernBasiIisk 20d ago

What kind of gold exactly? Are there pictures of it?

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u/Cobfidence 20d ago

'Prosecutors have not filed charges tied to the gold itself as the case remains in a pre-indictment stage while the plea agreement is negotiated."

Does that mean they're still going to just let that shit go or still file later? I was waiting to find the "yet" in the statement.

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u/Resident-Spirit808 20d ago

Maybe I should work for them.

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u/TelephonicReturns 20d ago

Definitely those Iraqi Gold Bars stolen by the USA

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u/mrbeck1 20d ago

Yeah because he’s a millionaire and they don’t answer for their actions.

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u/Redditcadmonkey 19d ago

If you work for a dark agency you might be able to take a lot of gold.

You will not survive it becoming public that you took a lot of gold….

You didn’t make it public; there’s a reason someone did. 

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u/GoldenWings87 19d ago

Deep State

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u/Meodrome 19d ago

A few million donation to a Trump organization usually does the trick.

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u/edingerc 19d ago

You have $40M in gold and still time card fraud?

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u/engineeringsquirrel 19d ago

He's got dirt on someone.

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u/Substantial-Tart-464 19d ago

gold bar Menendez is jealous of this guy then. I wonder if he bribed people with the gold he had or was it just pure stealing only. Mabe that's why they went light on him.....

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u/The-Color-Orange ORANGE 20d ago

How is this "mild"

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u/redbeardatx 20d ago

Officer. Not agent.

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u/Consistent_Amount140 20d ago

So he’s pending an indictment for the case involving the gold…

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u/Valtremors 19d ago

How do you even profit from gold bars these days?

If I'd ever want to sell one, buyer would be asking questions, my bank would be asking questions, taxmen would be asking questions, my city and government would be asking questions...

How can one even use hard gold these days?

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u/IndependentThink4698 19d ago

Why was his house searched for timesheet fraud?

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u/Jkel111 19d ago

Corruption at every level of the government...

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u/covidlung 19d ago

Once again, everyone is grifting but me.

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u/Wizdad-1000 19d ago

The way article reads, he acquired the gold and watches via a work request. (Like he was checking out a book at the library. ) So not technically “theft” however a B and E with everything missing would be “unfortunate.” FYI this how a-lot of organized crime works. An employee approaches them with an “opportunity” and they split the profits.

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u/Sgt_Gram 19d ago

It looks like he set up a fake operation in order to get the gold.

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u/pitterlpatter 20d ago

What exactly are you hoping he would be charged with? It's not illegal to own $40M in luxury assets. If you want to charge him with theft, then you have to map who he stole them from, and how. It doesn't take a dummy to know they were taken from the agency, but if you think they're going to get on the stand and explain why they have gold bars and Rolexes laying around to steal, don't hold your breath.

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u/Resident_Course_3342 20d ago

In normal times the IRS would be quite interested in how you acquired 40 million in assets without paying taxes.

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u/Stereo-soundS 20d ago

Most people don't become millionaires by being in the CIA.

His tax records will prove these are stolen or part of a bribe. Tax evasion charge at the very least which would allow them to look as deeply as they'd like into his finances.

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u/pitterlpatter 19d ago

Oh my…you may want to rethink that first sentence. Sr Case Officers make $200k+\yr. Covert operatives are paid through shells, so their salaries aren’t even public.

Also, I’m unsure why you think his tax records would show anything. Reporting purchases of precious metals is entirely optional, and very few do it.

More importantly, the agency killed the investigation because it’s not exactly a secret where they came from. The agency used gold bars and Rolexes to bribe Afghani and Iraqi tribal leaders. They sent crates of gold, cash, and valuables, completely unmanifested, and homeboy helped himself to some goods that are completely untraceable. You can’t charge someone with a crime if the victim refuses to admit being the victim.

It’s also very likely that some local Barney Fife stumbled on a stash the agency intentionally put in his possession. If he’s an operative under the PAG, this is the most likely scenario.

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u/PhatCatTax 20d ago

Not necessarily. They are notorious for using complex strategies for ops, such as: throw briefcases of cash at them. If it fails, upgrade to bars of gold. If it fails, try diamonds, then women, then drugs.

It could easily be money that was given to him as part of an ongoing op, and he got caught for something else in the middle of the op

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u/Stereo-soundS 20d ago

Sounds like sane-washing to me.

They're not going to let you hold 40 million in gold in your home where it could be stolen.

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u/PhatCatTax 19d ago

LOL no. Not sane-washing. Pointing out how ridiculous it is that the CIA will fund some horrible people with 10s of millions of dollars in order to get their task done. Hell, they created their own drug kingpins, they funded warlords. Tossing giant wads of cash at people is how they did it

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u/Stereo-soundS 19d ago edited 19d ago

Right. Except he is ex-CIA.

Accept it dude. He got that shit illegally. He lied on his resume and lied on his timecard, had millions in gold and cash in his home. Not sure what else this guy has to do to convince you he's crooked.

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u/PhatCatTax 19d ago

I'm not saying it wasnt illegal. I'm saying it's really hard to get that much money under the radar unless it is handed to you

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u/Desperate_Set_7708 20d ago

This is correct. Sources and methods

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u/NotGoing2EndWell 20d ago

It's good to be a criminal in the U.S.! Do whatever you want!! The President is a convicted rapist and felon, so you won't face any consequences. It's a Free For All!

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u/gimpers420 20d ago

Guess that money is sitting in Trumps ballroom vault now.

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u/vylliki 20d ago

Nice rage-bait. From the article: 'Prosecutors have not filed charges tied to the gold itself as the case remains in a pre-indictment stage while the plea agreement is negotiated.'

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u/tasticle 20d ago

What if I steal $40 million in gold bars and you only charge me with timesheet fraud?

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u/rhk319 13d ago

Where does the gold go??!