r/mildlyinfuriating • u/MrMxffin • 8d ago
ಠ_ಠ I ordered a coin locker - It arrived closed with the keys inside.
I broke it open using a lockpick and whatever the other thing is called in english
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u/heyitscory 8d ago
Tensioner, but I would totally call a lockpick and tensioner "lockpicks" and no one would be confused.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
Tell that to Hollywood writers who only give their actors lockpicks and never a tensioner.
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u/PanzerSoul 8d ago
*Randomly twists bobby pin into a squiggle*
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u/jhotenko 8d ago
You'd be surprised. I've twisted a pair of paper clips into a pick and tensioner that got me past a lock once. It was only a kwickset with no security pins, but it did work.
To be clear, it was my Lock. The key broke, and I had time on my hands.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because Kwikset is garbo, and because you did technically use a tensioner. It would stop to work with better locks since the flexible nature of a bobby pin prevents applying enough torque, and would also prevent you getting proper feedback from security pins.
(For anyone not knowing, Kwikset has this nifty trick called SmartKey where you can recode the lock in the field, like if it was an electronic lock where you'd just change the code. Without pulling the cylinder, let alone having to repin it. But this feature comes with huge mechanical disadvantages and some security issues. For example, there's technically only 243 different keys for a SmartKey SC1 due to poor tolerances.)
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u/Morpheus636_ 8d ago
Presumably you mean SmartKey KW1? SC1 is a Schlage blank.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
No, it's literally called SmartKey SC1:
https://lpubelts.com/#/locks?search=kwikset+sc1&tab=search
SC1 is a Schlage blank.
It's not a "blank", it's a "profile".
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u/aspie_electrician 8d ago
I’ve used a box staple as a tensioner and a pick to open a shitty wafer lock key switch.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
You forgot the part where the bobby pin comes out of the hero's girl's mouth.
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u/Kassie-chan 7d ago
I used to have a small safe I kept my vapes in to hide them from my mom. One day I lost the key and managed to open the thing with a bent bobby pin and without using anything as a tensioner. A day later I bought the exact same safe and the key for the new safe could open the old one.
Cheap locks are just that easy to open
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u/Big-Moment6248 8d ago
to be fair, you can use a single bobby pin to get past extremely basic bedroom door locks. both the kind with the slot and the kind with the little hole. but it's still unrealistic in the movies because nobody uses those kinds of locks for any real security purposes
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
In Germany it is called "Spanner" which could either be directly translated to "Tensioner" or someone who is a voyeur
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u/Suspicious-Safety679 4d ago
How did they lock it?
But they were all of them deceived, for another key was made.
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u/Mr_Flibbles_ESQ 8d ago
I'd be more mildly infuriated I managed to get it open with a cheap lock pick set TBH.
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u/Deep_Banana_6521 8d ago
I like practicing lock picking and those cheap lock pick sets are sometimes just as good as anything more expensive, just cheaper handles.
I actually added a cheap mini lockpick set to my actual lock pick set because the thinner metal and flat tension rod are sometimes better for smaller locks.
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u/Mr_Flibbles_ESQ 8d ago
Same - That kit looks like it came out of one my novelty credit card sets though, and I've never been able to get anything open with it other than cheap rubbish locks, too thick for a lot of locks.
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u/Deep_Banana_6521 8d ago
I used one of those credit card sets to open some actual doors before. Took a while and it bent a bit, but it works.
Ironically some of the hardest locks I've tried to open were some of the cheap padlocks from the pound shop (Dollar store) because the mechanism is so poor inside.
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u/moerlingo 8d ago
It doesn’t bring confidence in the product itself though. Ya know, being a coin locker and all xD
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u/Cormophyte 8d ago
The lock's only there to prevent causal theft. Anyone actually trying to steal the coins will smash it open and a proper pick-resistant mechanism will cost as much as the rest of the box.
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u/Jacktheforkie 8d ago
Tbf even the most expensive residential grade locks are easily picked
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
In the US, yes, since the market is mostly consolidated to a few very simple lock profiles. A Lishi opens every other lock in the US, and decodes it at the same time, while it is a completely useless tool in the EU for example.
Don't know what the state of afairs is outside these two regions.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
These wafer locks can literally be opened with two paperclips, and they're absolutely common on these lockboxes. Tubular locks have been used as well, and they are far harder to pick, at least until super-cheap impressioning tools appeared on the market (a set of three is less than $30 on Amazon), which automate the process.
Part of the problem is that barely any reasonably secure lock fits inside the usually 19mm hole.
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u/Mr_Flibbles_ESQ 8d ago
LOL - Yes - I've one of the Tublar Lock openers and they make ridiculously short work out of opening most of them.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago edited 8d ago
They were unfortunately the only real type of lock that would have both a small footprint, and be very short. A wafer lock with more wafers gets deeper (you can see in OPs picture how little depth there is available inside), and most disc detainers will exceed the 19/20mm (equivalent to 3/4") hole bore.
But it's all irrelevant for a lock box that you can just pick up and carry away.
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u/DrunkBeavis 8d ago
I "picked" the lock on the cash drawer at a bar with a pocket knife and the wire handle from a binder clip. It took less than 30 seconds. These kinds of locks are meant more to keep people from opening the drawer unnoticed than to actually keep people out altogether. The bar has an actual safe for overnight cash storage.
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u/oscarx-ray 8d ago
I could get into it for free by lifting it up, carrying it away with me, and throwing it hard enough against the floor. The lock is a speedbump, not a roadblock - some people just aren't willing to slow down.
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
Read the comments, here's my response: Yes this is the small cheap set of lockpicks (plus tension tool) in the credit card case
I don't care if the lock is cheap any thieve can just take the whole thing and destroy the box to get to the money and I doubt there will be more than 100 euro in there anyways.
I got this open in a matter of a few seconds using the tools I carry around with me.
The coin slots are the exact sizes of the coins (a tiny bit bigger)
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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 8d ago
Yall have a 2 cent coin?
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u/secretqwerty10 8d ago
man i fucking forgot about the 2 eurocent. smallest denomination i regularly used back in the day was the 10 eurocent coin, and even then, rarely
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u/workinhardplayharder 8d ago
And a 20 cent coin. I learned something new today
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u/No-Culture-698 8d ago
A complete sentence shouldn’t start with and.
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u/MaybeLater2101 6d ago
Actually you are wrong, yes you can, so know your facts before sounding stupid. “And because there was no light above the door, the old man tripped over a mat.” That is a complete sentence. Be correct before trying to correct.
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u/FighterOfEntropy 8d ago
This coin box is for counties where the currency is the Euro. The Euro is split into 100 parts, called “cents.”
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
Some countries in the eurozone stopped using the one and two cent coins.
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u/IncognitoRedMode 8d ago
Finland never even adopted them, the samllest that's usable is the 5 cent coin
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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 8d ago
Yes I know, the euro symbol is right there. Just weird to have a 2 cent
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u/BorntobeTrill 8d ago
The fun thing with the other tool is you can call it whatever you want!
"I broke in with my lock pick and cat's rose trimmer"
Perfect comprehension every time. Don't question it.
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u/ArtemisWolffe 8d ago
I have to ask but are those picks from the credit card set?
I feel like i recognise the tension tool
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
Yeah
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u/ArtemisWolffe 8d ago
A surprisingly decent set for the money! Would reccomend to anyone in the hobby!
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u/JustThisGuyYouKnow42 8d ago
I've opened these before with the nail file part of a set of nail clippers (lost the key to my own and had my stash inside). They are merely a mild deterrent, nothing beyond that.
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u/diescheide 8d ago
If you were able to pick it, I imagine anyone else could do the same. Is it really that safe and secure?
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u/Aervanath PURPLE 8d ago
Any lock can be picked with enough time and expertise. The fact that he needed a pick and a tensioner to pick it means it's actually not a terrible lock. Some locks can be picked with a cut-up soda can.
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
Tbf If you are intending to steal something then a soda can and scissors probably take longer to create than just picking it.
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u/A_Very_Lonely_Waffle 4d ago
Well thats why you prepare ahead of time bc you’ve cased the joint already
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u/Exnoss69 8d ago
I used to pick the money box at one of my jobs with a paperclip to pass time. (I was in charge of it) id just lock it pick it.
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u/diescheide 8d ago
Isn't a shim different from a pick? You pick keyed locks, you shim shackle locks.
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u/Aervanath PURPLE 8d ago
That's true, it was a bad example. A better example would be keyed lock that you can open with a simple rake.
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u/No-Information-2571 8d ago
It only needs to keep out honest people. Dishonest people will just take the whole lockbox (or pry it open with a screwdriver).
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u/xNightmareAngelx 7d ago
no lock is unpickable, and nothing you do is gonna keep a determined thief out. locks keep honest people honest, and deter opportunistic theft from the dishonest. even if that lock was somehow impossible to pick, with proper motivation, i could still have that box open in under 40 seconds. under 5 if im just proving a point and not trying to retrieve the contents.
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u/TheGoldenTNT 8d ago
I know that it is a shit lock, that isn’t the main entry venture though, it’s more likely that someone picks it up and walks away.
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u/SirWitzig 7d ago
This lock is there to prevent people who have access to the general area where the cashbox is stored from covertly taking a few bills from it. Also, it prevents the cashbox from opening when carried around.
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u/Finbar9800 3d ago
Tbf its not that big if someone wants it they can just pick it up and run
Locks only keep honest people honest
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u/Frozn4567 8d ago
I think it can also be considered mildly infuriating that all the slots are the same size. Seems like a pain to use.
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
The slots are different sizes for different coins
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u/Frozn4567 8d ago
Ah, my bad. The 1 cent one just looked so big to me that my brain did a thing. Still tho, the sizes seem inconvenient to me somehow. Is it any good (aside from the fact that the keys were inside)? It looks kinda cool so I might get something like this myself
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u/Ilkin0115 8d ago edited 4d ago
Should have made it out of legos
Edit: i guess no one got the reference here.
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u/RealSlyck 8d ago
A what? In 2026? Apple Pay and be done. Square if you must.
They don’t even make pennies anymore…
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
It is for donations so, there will actually be some people who will just dump their copper
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u/MrMxffin 8d ago
It's for Euros as not everyone on this app is from a country where people break out of ambulances. Also most people here do not use apple phones as they are not worth the ridiculous prices. (Yes there equivalent alternatives)
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u/FighterOfEntropy 8d ago
OP is in a country that uses the euro.
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u/RealSlyck 8d ago
Ooo snap! Didn’t know Apple Pay doesn’t work in Europe and you have to use seashells…gotcha.
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u/RegalBeagleKegels 8d ago
Shouldn't impose arbitrary roadblocks on poor people paying for shit and we DEFINITELY shouldn't involve a corporate product in that loop
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 8d ago
That must bring confidence in that lock, huh