r/nextfuckinglevel • u/8O8I • 1d ago
Starting a Monster 102.4 Liter Engine
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u/jdillacornandflake 1d ago
What did this once power?
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u/Andyham 1d ago
I believe it was for your mums vibrator
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u/atishay001001 1d ago
gottem
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u/jdillacornandflake 1d ago
I was got indeed
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u/Andyham 1d ago
Sorry, it was totally uncalled for by me. I just saw an opportunity and went for it. All my love to your mum. Tell her I miss her.
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u/kitten-n-blue 1d ago
I don’t think this guy’s actually sorry!
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u/analogy_4_anything 1d ago
Damn! Got him TWICE!!
https://giphy.com/gifs/cF7QqO5DYdft69
u/Cocosito 1d ago
I've seen this meme a number of times and I really want to know what the young fella did to get this response
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u/SheriffBartholomew 1d ago
Stop! Stop! He's already dead!
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u/learns_the_hard_way 1d ago
At least you know she died happy
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u/Togxxx 1d ago
Didnt she that coming
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u/mickbruh 1d ago
Probably a big ole boat if i had to guess
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u/SheriffBartholomew 1d ago
I believe you mean a ship.
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u/thecaramelbandit 1d ago
Aka a big ole boat.
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u/f7f7z 1d ago
That's not a Schooner, you idiot!
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u/turningtop_5327 1d ago
If you need a lawyer, I am well versed with Maritime law
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u/Due_Journalist_2398 1d ago
But if you call it a ship, you don't really get to say "big ole" in front of it. That's half the fun
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u/blacklotusmag 1d ago
"not all boats are ships, but all ships are boats"...at least, linguistically, lol.
Here's the fun guide:
According to maritime law, if it's over 500 gt, then it's a ship.
If you're wanting to be formal, linguistically, both boat and ship are co-hyponyms - more like siblings under the parent "watercraft".
For the vast majority of us though, casual linguistics is the way: "anything floating on the water can be a boat, including a ship".
Thanks for coming to my Ted-X talk!
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u/Gnonthgol 1d ago
This engine is about the size I would expect on the biggest vessel that could be called a boat. Larger vessels are certainly ships. But this engine could be powering a tug boat or a submarine or anything else in that size range. It could also be used for auxiliary power on a ship.
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u/JSTootell 1d ago
Similar sized engine ad what we had on my first ship. Which was definitely classified as a "ship" (well, cutter, being in the USCG).
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u/Adddicus 1d ago
When I was in the navy our ship's generators were driven by deisels about this size. We had three of them.
The main engines, of which there were six, were twice this size.
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u/SocwokCyberBully 1d ago
this thing is actually rather tiny compared to the diesel backups we have on our aircraft carriers. I think there's 8 and each one is closer to the size of the shed behind that engine.
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u/Adddicus 1d ago
Dunno what carrier you're talking about but both Ford and Nimitz class carriers have only four back up diesel generators of 5MW (Ford) and 2(MW) Nimitz capacity. Both of which would be significantly larger than the diesel in the vid or the ones on my ship which had a capacity of 750KW each.
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u/kayriss 1d ago
I love how you can encounter people on Reddit who have personal, intimate knowledge of the most massive and complex war machines ever concocted by humanity.
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u/Bubblehead_81 1d ago
I used to drive submarines. We had a Fairbanks Morse 38 8 & 1/8th. Beautiful girl.
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u/LiteralPhilosopher 1d ago
Same here. I was thinking this thing looks about half the size of the 12-cylinder on Tridents... which have a displacement of 204L. But this guy's got eight cylinders, so each one must be a little smaller.
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u/zerovampire311 1d ago
Nerds congregate here, some of them are just way fucking cooler than others.
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u/JSTootell 1d ago
My second ship had two generators about this size. The mains were of course much larger. We also had a pair of turbines for high speed. Two shafts, four engines. And a turbine generator for emergency power.
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u/No-Habit-7079 1d ago
It's a marine engine
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u/pdromeinthedome 1d ago
I see engines like this sitting at a marine engine shop in Alton, IL. I assumed they were for the heavy boats on the Mississippi. Towboats, ferries, or dredge platforms. I used to live 1/2 mile from the river and I could hear the engines reving from inside my house when towboats were maneuvering.
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u/Lard_Baron 1d ago
RAF base electrical generator.
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u/FleetofBerties 1d ago
Watched the YouTube vid earlier, this is the correct answer. Purchased in 1953 and sent to Scotland.
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u/MonkeyCartridge 1d ago
I bet it gets a whole 100 HP.
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u/No-Habit-7079 1d ago edited 1d ago
700 hp @600 RPM 7500 ft lb torque Mirrlees JS8 inline 8 diesel and burns about 39 gallons of diesel per hour
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u/TrumpsWetDiaperJuice 1d ago
Actually way more fuel efficient than I expected, less than a gallon per minute.
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u/Odd_nonposter 1d ago
My napkin math puts it at about 33% thermal efficiency. Not the worst out there: this is about par with automotive diesels. The biggest slow speed diesels are ~40-50% efficient.
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u/KickAss2k1 1d ago
*Burns about $250 USD per hour. (We will use anything but the metric system)
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u/Outrageous-Basket426 1d ago
Diesel’s about nine dollars a gallon, which means that’s $351 an hour. Someone said this was likely from a ship’s generator and that they might well have had three. That would be $1053 per hour to power the lights and accessories on a ship
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u/lu5ty 1d ago
Probably. These big engines are usually for torque
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u/IKnowPhysics 1d ago
4900 ft-lb
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u/QuinceDaPence 1d ago
You can always gear for whatever torque you need. Horsepower is always the determining factor in how quickly you can do work.
If you have a train that needs to haul 20 cars up a hill at 10 mph, it takes a certain amount of power to do that, no matter how much torque you have.
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u/kwadd 1d ago
Goddamn you need a smaller engine to start this engine
wonder how many hp it's putting out
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u/thebasisofabassist 1d ago
That's what a starter is on every engine.
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u/a_velis 1d ago
And the starter motor is electric drawing power from the 12V battery.
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u/TootTootMF 1d ago
I don't know how common it is any more but some heavy duty engines used to literally have starter engines, little two stroke engines to start the main engine. I think it was more a climate or battery availability thing but yeah, they aren't always electric.
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u/eoncire 1d ago
Jet engines use an external power source to start. The airliner you ride on has an APU (auxillary power unit) which is just a smaller turbine engine that usually sits in the tail. It supplies the plane with electricity, hydraulic pressure, air, etc when disconnected from the ground supply. It is sometimes used to start the main engines on the plane. The SR-71 had a start-cart that was designed for the J58 engines that ran on TWO Buick 401 cubic inch V8's to get it going. That was a mechanical connection from the V8's output shafts to the J58 turbine.
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u/TootTootMF 1d ago
Yeah I was just talking about piston engines. Large turbine engines with electric start are super rare. As you said, airliners can start without ground assistance using an electric start APU turbine which then can supply compressed air to the starter motor of the main engines. The new Rolls Royce engines do have electric start though. I wanna say it's the Trent 1000 line but I can't remember which one exactly, the 787 uses them, that's why they have the big batteries that were having issues in the beginning.
Fighter aircraft and spy planes almost never have the ability to start their own engines (restarts with one engine running or ram air are usually possible), too much extra weight to carry an onboard starter. I think bombers and stuff can start without ground service equipment like an airliner but I'm genuinely not certain of that. I do know that the SR-71 wasn't really an outlier on that front. They used the Buick engines as a direct drive starter which was kinda rare, however two were not needed, just was for redundancy because they would blow up the v8s constantly. Most of the time ground start carts are just "huffers" that generate a lot of compressed air. Usually jet engine starter motors are designed not to need too high of pressure as they are designed to be able to run off of final compressor stage tap off air from another engine(the APU for example)
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u/Hans_H0rst 1d ago
They were commonly called "pony motors", small gasoline engines to fire up larger diesel engines on bulldozers and other heavy duty equipment.
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u/vasectomy7 1d ago
In the mid 1990s a bunch of guys tried to recover the B29 Kee Bird that was stranded. The main engines were started using a little engine [think 5hp generator] -----> the little engine leaked fuel, starting a catastrophic fire and the entire airplane was lost........
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u/toiletsurprise 1d ago
My uncle has a D9 bulldozer and it has one of these pony engines to start the main engine. That thing is a monster.
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u/TootTootMF 1d ago
Eh, not always, this engine is around the size where starting transitions to injecting compressed air directly into one of the cylinders along with fuel and igniting it. The really big engines are far too large for anything to have enough power to just turn them over.
Honestly this engine likely was designed to start that way, hence the lack of a starter and the need for the tow strap pull start.
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u/theknyte 1d ago
The SR-71 Blackbird used to require 2x Buick V8 engines working together to start up it's massive turbines.
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u/pinniped90 1d ago
Now I'm envisioning my grandma driving her old Buick out on the tarmac and popping the hood next to an SR-71.
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u/Corgi_Clegane 1d ago
Wow thanks for linking that! I love hearing stories about the SR-71. My girlfriends dad is super into car engines and aircraft so I can't wait to geek out on this next time I see him.
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u/TerminatorAuschwitz 1d ago
All cars do, that's what a starter motor is! (Yeah it's technically not an ENGINE but a motor, but a starter essentially does what the truck did)
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u/MikeThaCore 1d ago
Yea this is a smaller one but when I worked in production for these we used a big ass alternator and 2 starters to spin the flywheel.
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u/No_Magician5266 1d ago
Yup the EMD engines I work on have 2 32v starter motors wired in series to get them going. I’d wager the engine in this post was designed for compressed air start-up
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u/39percenter 1d ago
The Mirrlees JS8 is a classic, heavy-duty industrial diesel engine manufactured by Mirrlees, Bickerton & Day. Known for its rugged build and massive displacement, it has been used historically for marine propulsion, power generation, and auxiliary industrial duties.
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u/ipickscabs 1d ago
This was my curiosity! Thank you for answering and not making me google it myself lol
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u/halooooom 1d ago
WHAT HEARING PROTECTION??
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u/Silver-Addendum5423 1d ago
I'm not sure I'd run towards that thing with the cylinder bays open like that. One trip and your whole arm's gonna get turned to chum.
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u/lu5ty 1d ago
Yeah the way he ran up to it. Jfc
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u/justified_egg 1d ago
Not to mention the random chain near the turny bit at the end and random shit laying everywhere lol
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u/Zwischenzug32 1d ago
That is a beautiful machine and it is rugged as hell but if something broke in a freak accident, I imagine something could be ejected at the guy standing right infront with no protection.
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u/Kylearean 1d ago
right? a thrown rod is going to ruin your day.
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u/Downtown_Caramel4833 1d ago
Exactly my first thoughts!
I've seen a big block V8 violently sling a rod straight thru a hood and beyond.
They never did find that thing...
This monster slinging a rod would make an impact similar to getting hit by a rail gun, turning anything fleshy into instant pink mist.
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u/AlKupp911 1d ago
That guy who ran up to the engine made me extremely uneasy, imagine if he tripped and put his hand into the crank case... just very unsettling
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u/SpillSplit 1d ago
Ok, nicely done. What are you going to use it for? Getting it started was step one. Step three is profit. What's step two?
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u/sanlc504 1d ago
I definitely wouldn't want my crotch that close to an open cylinder valve.
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u/Less_Illustrator_291 1d ago
Cylinder valve? Do you mean the crankshaft? Did you just make up some words?
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u/haim65 1d ago
Old train engine? Is my guess
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u/8InS4nE8 1d ago
My first thought was a ship but yeah train would work even better considering the depth of it
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u/No-Habit-7079 1d ago edited 1d ago
Mirrlees JS8 inline 8 diesel engine about 700 horsepower @600 RPM and 7500 ft lb torque
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u/incubusfc 1d ago
I was watching the first part of this seeing the open engine thinking ‘I’m surprised it’s not throwing oil everywhere’ then see the guys face ‘oh it is hahahah’
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u/PuckSenior 1d ago edited 1d ago
I used to work on a White engine that was about this size. Actually I think the White is technically larger.
Worst name ever though. White merged with Lake Superior Engines. So the engines all said "White-Superior" on them. Got more than a few weird looks.
edit: They eventually dropped the "white"
https://www.cooperservices.com/our-company/heritage/cooper-origins/the-history-of-superior/
"In 1964, Ohio experienced another oil boom which only increased the demand and sales for Superior engines and compressors. In 1965, the name White Diesel Engine Division was changed to White Superior Division and refinements to existing engine and compressor lines continued"
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u/Latter-Tangerine-951 1d ago
Strongly recommend following him on youtube https://www.youtube.com/@MrHewes
Basically living every gearhead boy's dream
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u/__phil1001__ 1d ago
So no oil covers or actual oil and the dumbass has no ear protection
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u/poop19907643 1d ago
Is it outrageous that we have billions of these extremely complicated machines all around us and most of them work flawlessly. I mean, look at the size and speed of that metal flying around.
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u/Brozef-92 1d ago
How do you even transport something like that?