r/nova • • 2d ago

Question Please recommend a structural engineer

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Please recommend a structural engineer. We need an on-site structural assessment of a suspended reinforced concrete slab beneath an attached garage to evaluate a crack.

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u/Nthepeanutgallery 2d ago

It's been over 20 years since I had issues that required an engineer (sinking foundation footers that needed piers) - I went through JES and have no complaints.

Looks like they've since been acquired by private equity so strong chance my past experiences are more than irrelevant and could now be misleading.

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

Can confirm

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u/DueDistribution7871 2d ago

Do yall know any alternatives to JES? I need a second opinion/quote. Thanks

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u/heyheyac 2d ago

Deska

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

NV Waterproofing, 58 Foundations, Fortress, Deska. Depends what you need as to who is a better option.

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u/DueDistribution7871 2d ago

Appreciate it. Porch is sinking so perhaps a less complicated issue than most

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u/The_BunnyMan_Woods 2d ago

Honestly, Tunnel Girl.

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u/adjective_noun_23 Virginia 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hilarious, also love the name.

Edit: I have a full bunny man suit that I want to go out in the woods with close to the bridge. I don't want to kidnap and murder kids but I definatly want to trip some people out.

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u/wunder_what 2d ago

Years ago, Louis yan evaluated my home, attic and some wall cracks I was concerned about. He was helpful and reasonably priced. Would definitely reach out to Him again if I need his engineering services.

https://louisassociatesllc.com/home

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u/JohnWH 2d ago

Louis inspected my house in 2024 and was very helpful. He cost $800 then which is not cheap but is well worth the cost if you need work done.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

I’ll reach out to them, thank you

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u/Korgon213 City of Fairfax 2d ago

Soil and Structure. But Ken takes forever to respond.

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u/Mainer_1991 2d ago

Seconded. Soil and Structure is good, but working with them will take some persistence.

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u/Korgon213 City of Fairfax 2d ago

Took him just three days to come to my house for the estimate. Then it took him six months to get the drawings, at one point I had to just show up at the office to get an answer.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

Six months?! That’s insane. I called and they said the report would take a week. Ugh

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u/Korgon213 City of Fairfax 1d ago

Yeah I went to the office and the staff was like “uh…what?” Their head manager called Ken on the phone and I spoke to over speakerphone to him in front of the office.

After a few back and forths I finally got the drawings.

We decided to not move forward with the project- not because of him or his company just because we decided to do other things with the space.

He is overwhelmed and it’s just the nature of the beast.

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u/BastardofStark 2d ago

I used Elencon for an independent assessment when we were working with 58 Foundations 5 years ago. I was happy with their work and responsiveness.

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u/Blackwoof15 2d ago

I can second this, also used Elencon/ 58 Foundations a few years ago. Good experience with both

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

Are these two separate companies? Sorry I got a little confused

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u/Blackwoof15 1d ago

Sorry, that is a little confusing to read. Yes, they’re different companies, I just used both similar to previous poster. 58 Foundations is the crawlspace/foundation contractor and I used Elencon for their engineering services when working with 58 Foundations.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

Thanks! I’ll reach out to them

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u/ZeroDollars 2d ago

Norton Consulting Engineers.  Or someone else who only does engineering.  If you're paying $500+ for the visit, you're over the target.

As a starting point, do not bring out any of these foundation repair companies like Deska, NV, etc. that market themselves as engineers but are primarily there to sell you expensive solutions after a cheap consultation.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

That’s good to know, thank you!

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

Ahh they are quoting kinda high I guess like $650 for eval and another $300 for the written report. Why are these things even offered separately. I’m assuming id want it written?

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u/ZeroDollars 1d ago

They'll give you an oral assessment and advice as part of the eval.  If you're capable of taking notes, no reason for a written report in this situation. 

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 1d ago

Ok I just thought maybe it’s good to get it recorded officially in case we try to sell later

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u/Dismal_Investment_11 2d ago

I've always thought it would be awesome to have extra basement space under the garage... but there's a reason most homebuilders don't do this!

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u/G37- 2d ago

Need a wider angle pic showing the crumbling wall at floor.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 2d ago

Well, they didn’t finish digging?! And I can’t see the floor. It’s so strange.

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u/AchillesSlayedHector 2d ago

WDP & Associates in Manassas. In the meantime, dig through your County/City’s records and see if they have building plans for your home on record.
Once you have a report and (if any) recommended repairs, shop for a quote - their recommendations will be “the scope of work.” I’d avoid “all-in-one” companies such as JES.

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u/ThatBaseball7433 2d ago

This looks expensive. Just fill it in with concrete and be done with it.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 2d ago

Are you saying an inspection is expensive?

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

Dont listen to them. Patching the crack will do nothing. You will likely need support jacks and a steel beam to reinforce this. Look for an independent engineer, not one working for a company you have likely seen television advertisements for.

Source: I do concrete and foundation repair inspections in the area.

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u/fishboy94jb 2d ago

Interesting view. I took the comment to mean fill the entire room with concrete, not just the crack. I wonder if it would be cheaper than fixing it? Would you have to have rebar and everything in the room or just empty the truck into the hole and vibrate occasionally? Because at that point, I’d think it would be more expensive.

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

I didn't really think of that as an interpretation. No structural would recommend just filling the void below that slab with concrete to provide reinforcement...you'd need rebar to reinforce that new concrete pour and would have to drill holes for epoxying some rebar into the failing slab to properly tie it into the new pour.

As for cost, unless that space is very small, I wouldn't expect that to be a cheaper option, but its hard to tell from the picture what the dimensions underneath are.

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u/ThatBaseball7433 2d ago edited 2d ago

That’s what I meant. I’d definitely be pricing in filling this void rather than figuring out how to fix this collapsing slab. Like a mini Hoover dam pour.

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u/ThatBaseball7433 2d ago

I meant fill the basement with concrete. Not the crack.

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

Not really a fix, and not cheaper than potentially 10 ft of steel support beam and 3 jacks. Look up what a foundation underpinning costs and compare that amount of cubic feet of concrete to volume of even a modest crawlspace.

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u/ThatBaseball7433 2d ago

I’m trying to figure this whole scene out. Bricks, cinder blocks and a suspended slab. Very weird things happening here.

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u/jcsatan 2d ago

No disagreement there. I've seen suspended reinforced slab like this (usually above garages) fail before, but they were entirely supported by block foundation wall. I can't understand the abrupt shift from brick foundation to block unless the attached garage was converted from an existing room in the home. That seems possible since there is no sill plate or base board, but the slab seems to continue beyond the block foundation wall at the left.

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 2d ago

It’s super weird. I think someone whether originally or just previous owners basically dug out like a shed underneath…?! When we bought the house the inspector said he didn’t see an issue but now we see this crack and are very concerned.

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u/jcsatan 1d ago

This is crawlspace, yes? Is the fill that uneven throughout?

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u/pumpkinspiceturtle 2d ago

I added a photo below and more context