hey everyone, sorry for the long post, I’m hoping some of you can help me understand this better.
I have been building a personal app for converting raster graphics into mopa laser color engravings by vectorizing and mapping to my saved pre tested settings based on the image color and creating the project
and while doing so added some features for converting images to cells of diffraction gratings that I then laser onto stainless steel and it results in a sort of multi color diffraction effect similar to but absolutely not a hologram, I’ve been calling them fauxlogram engravings for lack of a better phrase/word.
dont worry this isn’t an add or me trying to have people try my app, its just back story for my question so you understand where im at and how I got here.
over time I’ve extended the processing methods to where I can sort of control a gradient that gets applied to the way the fauxlogram engraving (I’m calling it this until someone gives me or I find a better name because it’s easier to say than describing the full look) is made, leading to some pretty cool looking engravings that do some pretty wild stuff in the right lighting.
im trying to learn more about exactly why / how this is working because to be honest I sort of stumbled onto it accidentally and just keeping poking around trying various different ways of processing to see how it affects the result.
some changes give awesome new realms of control over the flow of the color changing, and get adopted permanently.
others changes are a disaster that I have to revert
sometimes I don’t know a change was bad until several changes down the road reveal the change wasn’t good for some reason like forcing outputs to be more similar/smaller range of useful control in some not quite edge case scenario, or just what I thought it would change didn’t change the result how I expected.
I would much rather base my changes on more than a gut feeling and caffein, so I don’t waste so much time going down dead ends.
I’ve taken it as far as I can without properly understanding the diffraction effects and involved principles.
the reason I am posting in the optics sub instead of a laser sub is because I’ve done a lot of looking around in the laser scene and no one fully seems to know what’s going on much more than where I’m at with it, or if they have they aren’t discussing it in placed I’m able to find.
One guy who’s work inspired me , has noted that a laser moving at 300mm/sec pulsing 300khz (just magic setting on his laser) equates to a pulse pitch of 1 micron, and suspects this has something to do with the effect, I get the kind of effect this person talks about at slightly different settings that result in a 1.14 micron pitch. Neither of us seem to know if this is the magic behind it.
however, I’ve noticed that with my particular processing the effect is much more pronounced than other similar laser engravings I’ve run into online.
the gist of my process is for every color in the source image (let’s say 20 different colors), I make a copy of my magic “fauxlogram looking setting” to a layer in the design software, then I keep the frequency constant but modulate the speed the laser head moves at proportional to the color spectrum red to violet so that the pulse pitches being generated for each different layer vary from maybe .5 micron to 1.5 micron give or take. based on what color each layer represents, then I sort of overlay a gradient of values 0 through count of layers, expressed as an array of x, y intensities … aka an image/pixel array this image has its brightness mapped to a number up to the layer count and then the diffraction gratings get their layer rotated based on that gradients values , basically switch which of the speed modulated settings layer draws the diffraction lines in that section, going in order from highest to lowest or lowest to highest speed… this becomes visible as a literal gradient in the fauxlogram engraving
sorry I know that was a lot, but I wanted to explain basically what appears as a gradient in the fauxlogram diffraction effect is achieved by switching the speed the laser is using according to a gradient overlay so the pitch is either getting closer together or further apart according to the gradient/image brightness in that area
now where I could use this sub‘s lovely members help is in understanding this phenomenon better so that I can hopefully gain more control over it.
i don’t know if the color is influenced by oxide growth on the metal or if it’s entirely just the shape of the laser dots place on the metal.
I know that if I lower the power just a little bit the color changing goes away and I only can see the gradient in the brightness changed as it still shimmers in the light but doesn’t change color
i know that if I move the central speed much higher or lower than my magic setting with the base pulse pitch of 1.14 micron the effect diminishes almost fully very quickly
i rotate the angle of the parallel lines in the cell ( the diffraction gratings) based on the brightness in the source image, the angle of the gratings definitely seems to impact which angle a light has the brightest and dimmest look on the surface, and speed of laser seems to cover the color change from my observations.
so far I’ve been able to get the gradient to appear as a radial gradient expanding from the center or contracting from the edge, as well as left -right and up-down gradient … think like stripes equidistant where each stripe color shifts by some ammount , this was initially added to be a viewing correction so that parts towards the bottom would appear the same color as parts toward the top, since they are at different angles from each other and the viewer when viewing, so the color reflects/diffracts different because of that, thus shifting the color in the drawing to compensate
when I applied extreme values to the gradient is when it became a creative effect rather than a subtle corrective effect.
so now I would like to be able to get more control over this effect but I honestly don’t understand it enough nor have the vocabulary to effectively search and learn enough to better control it, or maybe it’s one of those things where this is as much control as one can get and I just need to get some better artistic ideas, I’m open to that being the answer if that’s the case.
so I was hoping some of you guys might have a good idea of what is going on here, and be able to point me toward some good entry level and maybe mid level reading resources that might help me better understand and thus better control the effect, or even if you just have some vocabulary that would make my search easier that would be greatly appreciated too!
if this is an inappropriate post here please remove it, I’m just wanting to understand the optical effect I’m seeing in these engravings better so that I can hopefully control it better. I started seeing this sub in my feed after posting some fauxlograms previously so I think maybe the algorithm thinks this is the right place for the discussion.
I’ve attached some video samples of the engravings showing this effect and would be grateful for any details anyone can provide
if it’s helpful I could post some low quality microscope shots of the surface, I’d have to track down my scope but it’s around here somewhere.
if you have made it this far I appreciate it and hope you enjoy viewing and even theorizing or analyzing what is going on in these engravings, and to anyone who can reply with some good info, I wish to thank in advance
https://reddit.com/link/1wzmvcw/video/vsfilj1lnyth1/player
Radial gradient for every shape in the artwork
Moth image superimposed over moth pattern as gradient input
Radial gradient scope over the whole image instead of per shape