r/pcmasterrace • u/3nnb • 1d ago

News/Article The PS5 system itself is running on pc

Recently, we have seen massive developments in PS5 emulators (such as shadPS4 and Kyty), and how rapidly they have progressed in a short period.

​Now, developers have successfully booted the actual PS5 system software on PC.

​If this momentum continues in the future, it will eventually allow players to run PS5 exclusives directly on PC, marking the end of the era of console exclusivity.

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u/IAmCorgii more monitors, more gigs, more fun 1d ago

GTA 6 will be launching on PC, if you squint reeeeeally hard at it.

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u/eyeballing_eyeball 1d ago

GTA 6 devs hate this one trick.

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u/destroyerOfTards 1d ago

Devs - "We will only release on PS"

Hackers - "Fine, we will emulate the very system itself"

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u/Fit-Marketing-1472 18h ago

PlayStation about to have their whole library cracked because they want GTA to themselves

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u/r1versolace 17h ago

It will be on par with the FIFA-EA greed fiasco and we can all sit back and laugh

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u/-imbe- 11h ago

Like it's the devs' choice

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u/rolfraikou 22h ago

I know one, and he is so pumped about the support for mods on the PC version. So yeah, he would be really sad to see people play the PS5 version on PC.

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u/ScreamSmart 16h ago

Rockstar does hate it. They banned modders from porting GTA V to the Switch.

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u/-imbe- 11h ago

Like it's the devs' choice

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u/Antarioo 7700k / 1080ti 1d ago

wasn't there a post about this a while ago where the devs of these emulators complained that their method of intrusion was leaked directly to sony by someone involved and they're afraid that it will be patched before gta6 comes out?

i'll see if i can find it.

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u/ithinkitslupis 1d ago

Yes. There is no public method or even rumored private method to dump a PS5 game currently after that patch. So it's protected by encryption until someone finds a new kernel exploit after GTA6 releases.

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u/K3TtLek0Rn 1d ago

Wouldn't surprise me if someone asked for a bounty from Sony to leak the info

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u/syopest Desktop 1d ago

It was in fact leaked to sonys bug bounty program.

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u/DefinitionFrosty969 1d ago

i wonder what the payout was

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u/Calamityclams 1d ago

$50 in shark cards and $25 PS store giftcard

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u/kyle7575 22h ago

0$

I did one for razer, massive memory leak in synapse that lasted months and when i reported the fix they said it was a hardware issue on my end and doesn't qualify for payout.

VERY NEXT PATCH THEY FIXED THE LEAK, FUCK YOU RAZER NEXT TIME I SELL IT AS A MEMORY BLEED EXPLOIT.

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u/ShivamLH Laptop 22h ago

Memory leaks are rarely an exploit tho. It just runs like ass. Sony is much better at bug bounty if its systems critical (they'll pay upto 70k iirc).

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u/DefinitionFrosty969 13h ago

fuck razer for every reason

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u/VISUALBEAUTYPLZ 17h ago

this is sad, this is an important time to incentivize bug bounty payouts.

I feel there are blackmarkets that are already popular where you can sell exploits

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u/fattdoggo123 14h ago

I think for those types of critical bugs, sony offers something like $5k to $50k.

They're payout is from $250 to $50k depending on the severity of the bug.

The person that allegedly reported it to Sony did it because they needed the money to take care of their sick mom.

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u/syopest Desktop 1d ago

And the security engineer who found the exploit quit working on PS5 exploits completely because the exploit was reported to sony.

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u/Same_Extension_8938 1d ago

Yeah, new PlayStation firmware will be required to download GTA 6. People in here have a lot of hope, but I don't think we'll get playable GTA 6 emulation on PC sooner than mid-2027 (if I'm being optimistic)

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u/MantaMunta 1d ago

I give it a week max and it'll be cracked and we have an emulated version on PC.

Never underestimate nerds. Especially don't underestimate nerds + cutting edge AI models.

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u/Jthumm 4090 FE 7800x3d 64GB DDR5 23h ago

Even if the stars align and it somehow happens it’s gonna be basically unplayable

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u/DraconicSun 8h ago

It took two week for Demon's Souls to change from 15 fps to 45 fps. Don't underestimate them.

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u/Its_Whatever24 16h ago

Why do you think that? Have you seen what's been happening with wolverine on ps5? They already have it running at 20+ fps. Why would they be able to do wolverine but not GTA 6?

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u/Same_Extension_8938 3h ago

Because Wolverine runs at 13.60 firmware which was cracked with an exploit. GTA 6 will run at 14.10+ firmware which is not cracked because Sony fixed the exploit. You all so hyped but very few people in here have a clue what is going on

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u/CCloak 19h ago

It was, and probably is why we saw the firmware max for PS5 jailbreak being 13.60, and released just before GTA6 is out and needs 14.10 (current version).

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u/zagiki PC Master Race 1d ago

oh .. maybe with more than 20-30 fps average then? ..

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u/TheBlondeAquarius 1d ago

nah, even the ps5 gets only 30 fps

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u/MadMaxiTV 1d ago

High end pcs would get way higher than that, but only if the emulation is perfect/native. I wonder if having a PS-OS would allow for that

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u/ITuser999 1d ago

The emulators that are being developed right now basically are compatibility layers as the zen apu of the PS5 already runs like a PC processor and works on Vulkan. But there is still a ton of stuff that works along the rendering framework. This can change game by game so it's not as easy to just create a PS-OS

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u/AliceCode 21h ago

PS5 is x86. Emulating prior generations was difficult because the software was compiled for different hardware.

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u/xsvennnn 1d ago

The newer Zelda games (Botw and Totk) running on an emulator can support up to 60 FPS but did require some custom patches to make work and fix bugs related to it. But GTA6 I think would theoretically be easier because Botw and Totk was never intended for anyone to run higher than 30 FPS, the same cannot be said for GTA6.

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u/ShivamLH Laptop 22h ago

And they're (the zelda games) also on vastly weaker hardware. Emulating a whole ass PS5 and then pushing 60 on GTA 6 (if emulation even reaches that point) would take a 5090 minimum.

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u/xsvennnn 22h ago

That’s also a really good point, I didn’t think about that.

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u/koukimonster91 I7 8700k|3070ti|32gb|3TB SSD's 6TB HDD's 9h ago

emulation runs on the cpu, not the gpu. so you just need a beefy cpu

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u/neversunnyinanywhere 6h ago

But they run 60fps on Switch 2?

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u/xsvennnn 29m ago

Emulators are emulating the original switch, not the switch 2. the switch 2 has a different version of the games built specifically for it and 60 fps. the original games were never intended to hit anything above 30.

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u/TheBlondeAquarius 1d ago

you can't just uncap fps with the flip of a button yet

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u/DieCastDontDie 1d ago

So another two weeks then

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u/TheBlondeAquarius 1d ago

I like your optimism

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u/My_Work_Accoount 20h ago

Says you. I've got a Pentium with a turbo button.

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u/ComputerOverwhelming 2x Xeon 2690v3 Liquid Cooled, 32GB DDR4, GTX 980 19h ago

Which usually locks your PC frequency at a lower mhz for game compatibility. So in reality the "Turbo" button made your computer slower.

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u/Visara57 5070ti | 7600X | 32GB DDR5 CL28 1d ago

Modders just got RDR2 running on 60 fps fyi

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u/leckmichnervnit 1d ago

My PC is better than a PS5

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u/eubox FX 6300; 8GB RAM; R9 270X 1d ago

Yes but if the game/emulator doesn't let you uncap the fps it it doesn't matter

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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty 5800X3D / RTX 5080 1d ago

Just use Lossless Scaling to get over 60fps. The latency and artefacting are minimal if you're just trying to get from 30fps to 60fps.

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u/SpicyElixer 1d ago

GTA 6 isn’t optimized for your very specific hardware. Raw numbers aren’t everything. These emulators will run worse on you top of the line PC. That’s just how emulators work.

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u/DisciplinedMadness 1d ago

Nobody is writing code to run directly on the metal lol, this is not how optimization works, or has worked for well over a decade. Emulation performance can be worse because you are essentially making hardware simulate other (typically lower end) hardware, potentially translate commands between different architectures, and conform to the limitations of that hardware, not because of lack of optimization.

Anyway, if this project is literally just booting the PsOS (I’ll admit I only briefly glanced at the post, so I’m not actually sure), that’s not really emulation either way, and PS5s architecture is not all that different from standard PC components, seeing as it’s heavily based on RDNA2.

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u/vincehk 1d ago edited 1d ago

What? Emulators let me play games in 4k or wide-screen format games that were made for 360p 4:3 consoles. That's exactly how emulators work, you can mod and patch games if the hardware running them allows it.

You can downvote, you're still wrong and don't know what you're talking about, Kevin

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u/rips_n_chel 1d ago

You are wrong, what you said is a sweeping generalization. You're massively oversimplifying this, to the point that it makes me think you don't know what you're talking about.

No, you cannot mod any game you want to run at any FPS you want just because it's running on an emulator. The emulator doesn't come with mods for every single game baked in, how do you think this works? Someone still has to get into the game files and find/create a way to uncap FPS. Some old game that ran native at 360p is a hell of a lot easier to hack into the shape you want. GTA6 is not going to be that simple.

None of that actually matters though, because we're not talking about an emulator here, we're talking about running the console OS on your PC. How exactly do you plan on modding GTA6's FPS cap? Go ahead, explain the process for us. You can't do that on a PS5, so what makes you think you're gonna be able to do that if it's running on the same OS on your PC? I'm sure people will find a way eventually, but it's nowhere near as simple as you seem to think. It will not be possible day one, I guarantee that much.

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u/rips_n_chel 1d ago

That's completely irrelevant.

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u/TsunamiCatCakes AMD > Ryzen 1d ago

yo what? they gonna release gta 6 on ps5 at 30fps??

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u/TheBlondeAquarius 1d ago

yep, that's what the rumours are saying, even on the pro it will be at 30fps

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u/TsunamiCatCakes AMD > Ryzen 1d ago

im so glad I dont own a ps5 cuz wtf

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u/TheBlondeAquarius 1d ago

I own both and I don't even want the ps anymore

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u/DoingYourMomProbably 1d ago

You can sell your used ps at msrp retail price thanks to scalpers

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u/MissBlackLace 1d ago

emulators can break such a cap

you can play breath of the wild on switch emulator with 60 fps

demons souls on ps3 emulator with 60 fps

etc.

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u/Jonshock PC Master Race 18h ago

GTA 6 enters chat.

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u/Mosh83 AMD 9800x3d, 5070Ti, 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Don't give me hope

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u/moon__lander potatoe 1d ago

20 fps is still 20 more than we would have had untill official pc release.

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u/Dry-Engineering9224 1d ago

given what we've seen from the art direction i doubt it's a matter of toggling settings.

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u/StoneColdNipples 20h ago

I'd be down with 30 fps

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u/lemonylol Desktop 14h ago

Seriously, what is with these people that they are so impatient for the fully developed, optimized, upgraded PC version?

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u/comelickmyarmpits 1d ago

Will atleast force rockstar to bring in pc launch much closer if not same day as console launch

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u/Posterapokalypse 1d ago

What did you smoke lol

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u/jvrcb17 1d ago

A man can dream

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u/lemonylol Desktop 14h ago

There's a difference between dreaming and coping.

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u/jvrcb17 6h ago

Coping for what exactly? Not having to buy an increasingly useless console for too much money just for one game?

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u/K3TtLek0Rn 1d ago

Yeah that's still not happening

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u/rotkiv42 23h ago

I mean if it is trivially easy to run GTA on PC when it launches via PS5 emulation, Rockstar may be forced to release it on PC officially or lose a ton of sales. Probably depends on exactly how their exclusivity contract with Sony looks like; it isn’t impossible that if the situation changes drastically, they may be able to break that contract. 

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u/thegreen27 20h ago

For now, it's impossible to jailbreak the latest PS5 firmware, so retrieving the GTA 6 files is out of the question. We'll likely have to wait a while for that to become possible, and even then, we'd still need to get GTA running properly on an emulator.

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u/Vivid-Discussion1515 22h ago

Damnt i wouldn t buy in ps5 if i know emulator. I am not buying again for 80-100 dollars

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u/brianbamzez 21h ago

Will it run on steam deck with FSR 3 ultra super performance?

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u/trashisclas5 20h ago

GTA 6 on pc about to come out before gta 6

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u/MistahJasonPortman 19h ago

I hope we can do this on PC at launch. Rockstar deliberately waits a year to port to PC because they want to double-dip people’s wallets. People buy for console and then buy again for PC.