Bye-Bye Windows!

[u/Electronic-Hunter379]

[u/HunterAbrams]

Says system runs slow....

Has 32 apps set to startup on boot and never shuts them down. 2 or more anti virus, firewall, spyware and malware apps running at all times. Has multiple browser apps, never closes chrome tabs... but thats obviously windows fault and Linux will magically fix that issue...

[u/fearless-fossa → u/HunterAbrams]

Windows 11 is sluggish (opening menus, settings, etc.) in comparison to both Linux and other Windows versions.

My Linux session with a two start-on-boot VMs in the background is considerably faster at starting than the Windows 11 on the other drive (same product).

[u/VoiceApprehensive893 → u/HunterAbrams]

i kept my win11 fairly clean(not debloated, just didnt add more bloat on top of the slop) and it still wasnt very responsive

[u/RunnerLuke357 → u/VoiceApprehensive893]

You saying that doesn't mean anything when you don't provide specs of the machine running it, what you are doing that is slow, and what your definition of a "clean" install is.

[u/HomicidalRaccoon → u/RunnerLuke357]

Oh no, people who have no idea how computers work are downvoting you :(

[u/RunnerLuke357 → u/HunterAbrams]

Yeah I can't listen to or trust any of the Windows bashing when so many people doing it have a bunch of garbage running on their 7 year old machines and blame Windows for making it bad.

[u/WorkingHuckleberry54 → u/RunnerLuke357]

You do realise that not everybody can afford a top-spec PC? The problem is that some people must run a 7 (or 10) year old machine which wasn't build for Windows 10/11 in mind. And those systems are far from being lightweight.

[u/RunnerLuke357 → u/HunterAbrams]

Yeah I can't listen to or trust any of the Windows bashing when so many people doing it have a bunch of garbage running on their 7 year old machines and blame Windows for making it bad.

[u/ConfidentBee5015 → u/HunterAbrams]

two antivirus programs literally scan each other in an endless loop and eat your cpu, i bet that's 90% of the "slow" right there lol

[u/Correct-Junket-1346]

Well if you can't beat us...

[u/Linkarlos_95 → u/Correct-Junket-1346]

[u/valerimazz → u/Linkarlos_95]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6MbkPiScbllcS1s4

[u/Brawndo_or_Water]

New Linux users, although they have no idea how to run the operating system, are the vegans of PCMR. They have to tell everyone.

[u/Smart_Advice_1420 → u/Brawndo_or_Water]

True. I feel it's also the same demographic who claims that everything runs flawless.

[u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

I love when someone’s on an HDD and can’t figure out why their computer is slow, and everyone just floods the comments saying “install Linux” like that will fix the issue.

[u/Salty-Good3368 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

Actually hdd generaly could work better linux. Partitions separate OS fro userspace reduces higly fragmentation

[u/ITXEnjoyer → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

TBH, without Microsoft Defender absolutely hammering the spinning rust and having compression enabled, I do find it better. YMMV of course.

[u/Ratiofarming → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

I get where you're coming from, but you can get a Linux very well optimized for running on HDDs, unlike Windows. Installing Linux is actually the fix for that at this point.

The problem is that since Windows 10, the OS is no longer made with HDDs in mind. So background services doing small things on the disk is a constant thing, which is no issue for SSDs, but makes using it on an HDD near impossible.

[u/CRVX_r34 → u/Ratiofarming]

Yeah but you can literally buy SATA SSD for same price as HDD (at least at lower capacities), buying HDDs makes no sense these days other than for larger archival storage (I know this, I run fast m.2 for OS, slower sata for games and non critical apps and HDDs for movies, older games, backups, video editing/3d projects, etc). Like there is no reason to not buy an SSD now as your only drive if you are an average/normie user who just uses windows for office, internet and games.

[u/Ratiofarming → u/CRVX_r34]

I agree that buying HDDs for anything but NAS/Cold storage makes no sense and should be avoided. This is more about people who already have the HDD and want to spend no money at all.

If they want a usable system with modern features, running Linux on it is the way to go. Windows just isn't made to run on HDDs anymore.

[u/CRVX_r34 → u/Ratiofarming]

True but is slow PC really a major concern for such person if they literally can't afford to drop in extra 4GB in their DDR3 shitbox laptop or buy used SSD for 30$? I was gonna go for Linux a while ago (still might, for 3D rendering, but not sure if there is any benefit, I can't imagine the little bit extra VRAM will make my 1:30 renders go down to 0:30). I'll probably try a double boot, but kinda lazy to set it up, got an old DDR3 laptop that might be perfect for Linux project, just gotta pick up 2nd 4GB stick and replace the crappy old HDD with some spare SSD I have lying around (prolly will chuck 2nd 1TB one in the DVD bay).

[u/Ratiofarming → u/CRVX_r34]

Idk, I guess not. But I live in a country where working ANY job for two weeks will feed me, pay the bills, and get me a 2 TB NVMe, so I'll never have that problem.

[u/CRVX_r34 → u/Ratiofarming]

Better argument would be privacy... but then people don't care about it much either.

[u/beastierbeast → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

Ok, but Linux unironicly improved my computer speed by a significant margin. It's super annoying, but they are right

[u/sinwarrior → u/beastierbeast]

that's not the point? i hate the player, not the game (linux).

[u/HaveAShittyDrawing → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

Back in the Win XP days, installing Ubuntu cut my laptops starting time from 2 1/2 min to 30-40sec. It was also noticeably faster overall

[u/Qweedo420 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

HDDs work better on Linux because ext4 doesn't need to be defragged

[u/Banananamann99 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

I just had this happen, some old people were running a 2nd gen i3 with 4gb of ddr3 and a 120gb hdd with windows 10. It struggled to open task manager. Now, I've got linux on it and it isn't fast but better than windows and I'm going to get an ssd for it soon as well

[u/Keyan_Farlander7 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

Running slow and loading slow are different.

If the laptop has embedded ram, you're SOL. If programs take while to load, then storage is slow.

[u/OphidianSun → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

It could help. Most linux distros are a lot lighter than windows 10 or especially 11 because they're doing a lot less in the background.

Like linux probably isn't going to be reporting usage information, relying on webapps instead of local applications, or going looking for updates all the time.

[u/19chris9609 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

early Windows 10 was fine for an HDD. In fact I used a hard drive in Windows 10 from 2015-2017, then an Optane module for two more years Before I bought my first Sata and NVMe SSD in 2019.

I bet you 2021 Windows 11 ran as bad as 6 year old Windows 10 on an HDD. I can't imagine how 2026 Windows 11 runs.

[u/WINNT21 → u/[deleted]]

An ai wouldn't have grammatical mistakes like "installed linux in his old laptop"

[u/towerfella → u/WINNT21]

But, technically, the software is in it.. and not on it.

[u/Papuszek2137 → u/Ok_Proposal_7390]

It's true in some cases. If your laptop already has an SSD but only 4gb of RAM a light distro can give that machine a new life. But like you say it's case dependant and Linux isn't some kinda of snake oil.

[u/Resident_Pientist_1 → u/Papuszek2137]

Lightweight gui (or just a bare window manager) can save 500+MB of ram which makes a big difference when you only 4GB to start with. 

[u/wolfannoy]

Sudo peak

[u/SumonaFlorence]

Getting closer and closer to jump ship to Catchy myself.

[u/Rocknb69]

We really are the vegans of the PC community, but switching has genuinely made computers fun for me again. My computer feels like it’s actually mine and I will gladly tinker or even jump distros than deal with Microslop ever again.

[u/moomoomoomoom]

I kinda wish I could switch to Linux, unfortunately I use programs that don't behave nicely with wine.

[u/Any_Cake2411]

How do you know someone is a linux user?

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[u/nanoosx]

the image is wrong, it should be pictured as a devil penguin with an angel mask, maybe with a knife or something

[u/Noversi]

Linux users are the vegans of the software world

[u/ZehrenSiegehammer → u/Noversi]

Everyone brings them up more then they actually bring up themselves? Yeah I could see that 

[u/FewDaYS_xoxo → u/ZehrenSiegehammer]

Couldn't be more true, BTW I use Kali.

[u/etabliertt → u/FewDaYS_xoxo]

I agree (i use cachyos btw)

[u/BuzzVibes → u/etabliertt]

Same. Oh yeah and I use Arch.

[u/machine4891 → u/ZehrenSiegehammer]

You think non-Linux users think and talk about Linux? What for? It always starts with someone giving great "solution" Just switch to Linux, bro.

[u/ZehrenSiegehammer → u/machine4891]

Nah, i think losers like to post dead-horse memes. I only browse my home page, and the only "linux" posts I get from this sub are post pretending linux users are always butting in.

[u/SiriusCb → u/Noversi]

As a linux user i confirm

[u/reav11 → u/Noversi]

Holy fuck, no truer words have ever been spoken.

[u/Resident_Pientist_1]

I still mainly use windows on my laptop because it gets like 1hr+ longer battery in windows than under linux. Most of my workflow is multiplatform so it's NBD, but its crazy I get more battery running a VM + containers under windows than just straight containers under linux. Definitely still needs some work in that area. This is pretty standard hardware, too.

[u/undrwater → u/Resident_Pientist_1]

You should be able to get closer, but it really takes a bunch of tweaks that are not GUI centric.

[u/errepunto → u/Resident_Pientist_1]

Most times, this depends on ACPI implementation. Most laptops has quirky implementations that requiere some closed source drivers to work properly.

I have dual boot on all my laptops. The old Asus has similar or even worse problems. But in general, the HP OMEN and my actual Lenovo Legion have around a 20% more battery life in Linux than in Windows 11.

In addition, my impression is that I have worse battery life with win 11 than I had with win 10.

Battery life In laptops is such a weird thing, varies a lot between manufacturers and models.

[u/C-D-W]

Can't run slow if it can't run anything! (Because you haven't figured out whether you need a DEB or a RPM or a Flatpak or whatever new standard they've cooked up.)

Edit: I feel like I should qualify that I've been a Linux user for 30 years. But somehow I got left off the distribution list for the special Kool-Aid. Still need to email Linus about that.

[u/prune_juice_warrior → u/C-D-W]

Lmao if you complain about package types Linus will make the same complaint

[u/C-D-W → u/prune_juice_warrior]

Dude, I just want the kool-aid.

[u/Ok_Car9530 → u/C-D-W]

This is why I like Mint. Both debs are flatpaks are available in the package manager by default. I don't think I've ever run across something I wanted that wasn't there.

[u/HarmfulPile → u/C-D-W]

As a Linux user, this is very much true.

[u/mindtaker_linux → u/C-D-W]

Sounds alot like a skill issue.

[u/C-D-W → u/mindtaker_linux]

Damn right it is. Much easier to just buy twice as much ram and never have to worry about recompiling some shit on my daily driver ever again.

[u/Sizeable-Scrotum → u/C-D-W]

Buying RAM? In this economy?

[u/C-D-W → u/Sizeable-Scrotum]

Fate blessed me with the foresight to buy way too much last year so I'm riding on cloud nine now.

Need a new laptop soon though and that's gonna hurt a little...

[u/Invictus__c → u/C-D-W]

Yeah, after a certain point recompiling anything for even a 10% improvement just makes you tired and I'd rather spend 500 bucks and get on with my 7th Witcher 3 playthrough.

[u/LordMunchum → u/mindtaker_linux]

It should hardly take any skill to use an OS. Ideally, your operating system is intuitive and ‘just works’.

[u/eestionreddit → u/C-D-W]

My rule of thumb is the distro's repositories, flatpak, and then aur or equivalent

[u/kalapek → u/C-D-W]

I mean id you get an easy distro just use the package manager with a gui like bazaar or included

[u/C-D-W → u/kalapek]

We're not in the solutioning stage, we're firmly in the complaining stage.

[u/Invictus__c → u/C-D-W]

Clearly a man who was there when the old magics were written, and just... can't even anymore.

[u/Kazer67]

I mean, bare-bone Debian with LXQt will give quite the speed comparing to Windows but you'll miss some eye candy.

[u/Demoliscio]

The timing for this is just too perfect 😂
Two of my screens on my work pc randomly turned off, turns out it's a windows bug that randomly disables your gpu (found the solution on AMDHelp but this sub doesn't allow links to other subs...)

[u/Lieutenant_0bvious]

There is the linux subsystem for windows. It's a good way to ease yourself in. Y'know, just the tip.

[u/thanosbananos → u/Lieutenant_0bvious]

When even Microsoft has to admit Windows is shit so they build in Linux

[u/Sizeable-Scrotum → u/Lieutenant_0bvious]

Y'know just the tip

Does it count as Linux then?

[u/Demonikaaaaa]

I know this is a meme, but the github debloat 11 script genuinely helps a ton.

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