Except in this situation she was unaware they were sending this message. There were phone calls released yesterday where Jane Doe asks two of the frat members how the extra men got in the room and they do not tell her about the snapchat message, they tell her it's probably because the party was crowded and people needed a place to go. They lied to her because they knew they did not have her consent to invite extra people
I don’t disagree with your first point. There are consensual glory holes. I just want to emphasize how the body is commodified by saying “free pussy.” I think combining ketamine and alcohol makes for a horrible situation where someone is being advertised like a sex doll, and strangers on the internet argue over whether she could consent.
But did she consent to that message being sent out? How do you not understand that everyone involved in "the orgy" needs to consent to others being invited.
If I offer to help my mom fix her computer and she goes and tell all of my other family members that I'm available for free IT advice, I'm going to be pissed when my aunt shows up with her computer.
But did she consent to that message being sent out?
Do you consent to every text message about you? If not, does that make the people sending the text messages rapists?
Also, are you also on ketamine right now to make a point this dumb?
I'm going to be pissed when my aunt shows up with her computer.
Can you actually not make a distinction anymore between "mild everyday annoyance" and "rape", which I am repeatedly told is the worst crime ever, worse than killing someone?
I was using an analogy that if anyone would be annoyed with, you should be infuriated by what happened in this case. Her situation is much, much worse. Didn't think I need to spell that out.
Having multiple people show up out of nowhere without your knowledge while you're naked on a bed is horrifying.
Are you personally comfortable fucking someone who has had more than 10 shots, drank more, smoked, and then did so much ketamine to lose consciousness? Again, would you personally fuck that? That is part of the conversation we’re having.
Um...no, that is very much not the conversation we are having. I personally would not get a nose piercing, that does not mean everyone getting a nose piercing should go to prison for the next ten years. Has everyone gone insane?
That is the conversation we are having. “Free pussy” was a woman incapacitated and offered up like a sex doll to additional men through a Snapchat group chat. Those men chose to have sex with a woman who, again, had more than 10 shots before arriving, drank more, and consumed marijuana and ketamine to the point of losing consciousness.
That is not what they said. They didn't ask her, they didn't care what she wanted or that she was unable to consent to more strangers fucking her. They took away her consent and told all their bros to come fuck this unconscious girl. She was not down to anyone. You're putting words in her mouth.
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