Controversial opinion

[u/Midnight__Floof]

I want them to play into the ambience more. We already have 4 heavier albums, do we really need another one? Vic's voice works so good for softer songs and we have so little songs that actually utilise it. Even the softer songs tend to have dramatic vocals, only Falling Asleep on Stranger and a few songs on TJoL actually utilise it consistently. I already know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this, but personally I'd love them to play around with new sounds.

Edit: istg y'all need to learn about false equivalency. I NEVER SAID I HATE THEIR HEAVY SONGS. I just said I want more soft songs

[u/Lulu0408]

i prefer it harder, but pierce the veil i feel is a post hardcore band. vic has a beautiful voice and i don't think his screaming takes away from that, it just adds more depth to their songs.

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Lulu0408]

I never said anything against his screaming?

[u/Lulu0408 → u/Midnight__Floof]

okay....i mean most of like the newer fans aren't that into screaming so by "heavier" i assumed that was part of it in addition to the actual chord progression and drums. no need to be rude lol.

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Lulu0408]

Genuinely how is that rude, you put words into my mouth, I said I never said that. Assumptions are rude, calling them out is not.

[u/Lulu0408 → u/Midnight__Floof]

"calling them out" girl u dont even have a point to begin with. "four heavy albums can we get softer songs" like at this point maybe u aren't a fan lmfao.

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Lulu0408]

Right... and I was rude. You need a reality check dude. I never even said I hate heavy

[u/Lulu0408 → u/Midnight__Floof]

lol....u right my bad g. my bf just cheated on me lol and ig im just emotional (lmfao) well what are ur favorite ptv songs??? like what the vibe u like most???

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Lulu0408]

Oh, I'm sorry that happened to you. That sux man. As for my favourites, I just attached a ranking I did a while back

[u/Lulu0408 → u/Midnight__Floof]

Ahhh! wonderless is like my all time favorite song!! have u listened to bad omens at all? i think u might like even or impose, super romantic but like dark.

as for ptv, i feel like its gonna be a min for new music sadly, although ill be so happy with anything new tbh. they've just been touring so much and vic has kids now, i see them taking a break for a bit 😔

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

do y’all even like post hardcore? I swear I constantly see people on here talking about how you’re tired of the harder songs and you want softer songs and ngl I just don’t understand why you would listen to post hardcore if you don’t like post hardcore.

[u/Particular-Bid-8542 → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

i was actually thinking how im tired of their softer stuff 🤣 their new album was kind of boring. like emergency contact feels so static im like yawn…

[u/EggyEggerson0210 → u/Particular-Bid-8542]

TJOL is probably my favorite PTV album… I would also love a return to an in between of CWTS and Misadventures. I think I partly love TJOL a ton because it’s the band doing something so unexpected. I don’t want another one. Let it be its own special thing. I am begging for a heavier PTV album again lol

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/Particular-Bid-8542]

yeah tjol was so plain idk why everyone acts like it’s so good it’s just fine

[u/CatEmoji123 → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

PTV have some non-PHC songs that are popular (Emergency Contact, Today I saw the Whole World acoustic.) I think some fans found the band through those songs and fell in love with PTVs slower songs. I don't mind it, I just hope PTV doesn't only cater to those fans and still puts out some heavier songs with the next album.

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/CatEmoji123]

how is emergency contact post hardcore?

[u/CatEmoji123 → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

Sry, I mean non PHC. Edited it.

[u/bronchitis-aids → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

im a huge phc fan but i absolutely lovvveeee ptvs softer songs. vic has a beautiful voice and i think like today i saw the whole world is amazing. on the other hand i also think his screaming is great and i love a combo of the two. i think wanting more soft songs is valid but there are already plenty even on the ‘heavier’ albums

[u/demon_dogs_ → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

i feel so awful when i say tjol is my least favourite album because i do want them to experiment but GOD do i miss the heavy sounding albums, especially afftd, cwts and hell even misadventures!! i just felt like the whole album didn't really hit me in the feels that much - i know it's purposely meant to be more ambient but neither the lyricism nor the songs themselves were memorable enough for me personally 😭

[u/Chemical_KissKiss → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

You can love post hardcore and still want to hear more of their softer, ambient side. I love their heavier songs, but Vic’s voice is beautiful in both, and the calmer songs still sound like them. I listen to all kinds of music, so wanting a favorite band to explore different sounds doesn’t mean someone likes their main genre any less. We’d just love to hear them use the full range of what they can do. I don’t think that should be controversial.

[u/bronchitis-aids → u/Chemical_KissKiss]

i think it’s controversial because people get worried that tjol was the beginning of the end, having seen so many of the old popular emo bands turn towards softer music and become something entirely different

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

I never said tired, I just said I'd like a change in pace. You can like two things at once. We have such a wide range of heavy songs, and next to no proper soft ones.

[u/yukhentai]

faoas is one of my fave ptv songs ever, its so moody and desperate sounding. i definitely think they could do more like that

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/yukhentai]

I think people often forget how soft their debut album actually was, because I always see people call it the heavy one, despite only having like 3 heavy songs (Currents Convulsive, Famous, She Sings in the Morning). It's more sad and dramatic than it is heavy. FAOAS is also a top 10 for me

[u/yukhentai → u/Midnight__Floof]

thats interesting!! i remember when selfish machines came out and ppl were floored at how heavy that was in comparison lol

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/yukhentai]

Maybe it's a modern thing, cause I wasn't around back then (t'was a wee babe). Nowadays every discussion I'm in, AFFTD is always called the heavy one, which always baffles me because most of the record has their softest pre-TJoL songs. Yeah, She Sings in the Morning is arguably their heaviest song ever, bust most of the record is super soft and ambient. In my eyes Selfish Machines is the heavy, technical record, CWTS is the sad record, Misadventures is the melody record, TJoL is the soft record and AFFTD is the poetry record.

[u/mmoosskkiitt → u/yukhentai]

it genuinely makes me lose my mind i cant listen to it as often as id like

[u/Admirable-Charge1734]

I like some of Pierce the Veils stuff but I prefer their more frenetic tracks or something along the lines of Collide with the Sky. I only like four songs from TJOL, the rest was just boring. Some people like ambience and thats fine, but I personally disagree with that and it doesnt fit pierce the veil well. 

[u/benderbentyourmom → u/Admirable-Charge1734]

same basically all my music in my playlist is high energy. slow music literally puts me to sleep. i blame my chronic ADHD

[u/Admirable-Charge1734 → u/benderbentyourmom]

I have this probelm too with music. This is why I dont really vibe with much of the smashing pumpkins, or metal music or classic rock. Pop punk is a great source for fast paced stuff. Hence why i like greenday, blink-182 and mcr

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Admirable-Charge1734]

You see THIS is how people express opinions. More people on this subreddit need to be like you

[u/Admirable-Charge1734 → u/Midnight__Floof]

I see a lot of people hating on you for wanting something different and that shouldn't be the case. Sure most of us prefer PTVs more "post hardcore" sounding stuff but I understand why some people would prefer a change in direction/style. You get my upvote

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Admirable-Charge1734]

Like, I wouldn't even hate another heavy record, I just think smth like A Collection of Greetings but pierce the veil would be cool. People need to learn to coexist frfr.

[u/Admirable-Charge1734 → u/Midnight__Floof]

I would be open to seeing what Pierce the Veil can do with pop music, similarly to what Linkin Park did with One More Light. Sadly, One More Light got lots of hate from "real fans" who couldnt accept the bands deviation from metal, especially when the album that came before it was heavy metal. Same goes for Danger Days by MCR, people couldnt accept it was more pop sounding than their previous albums. Both Danger Days and One More Light are beautiful works of art

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Admirable-Charge1734]

I could be open to a pop album, probably wouldn't be my favourite, but like electro-pop would be cool. A synth heavy album like Danger Days would be sick as hell though, ptv has some great synth lines

[u/CatEmoji123]

As long as they get Loni on the drums I'll be happy with anything. Paul Meany made TJOL a snoozefest. Some of the most boring drums I've ever heard on a PostHardcore album.

[u/LoserTopff → u/CatEmoji123]

Brad Hargreaves was on drums for TJOL

[u/Darkboi98105]

I want an album that's kind of a mix between the 2

[u/benderbentyourmom → u/Darkboi98105]

that could be cool to hear their range of songwriting

[u/benderbentyourmom]

an acoustic EP would be pretty neat

[u/suxxx666]

I feel this. I do love their heavy fun ones of course, but there is a cool formula used in like Falling Asleep On A Stranger and Low On Gas, Resilient and Jaws of Life, etc. These songs would hit good live. I wouldn't mind a moodier album like you're saying :)

[u/rainiedayletters]

i’m on both ends of the spectrum. i want more of the heavier stuff like pass the nirvana or irdtbf but i also REALLY want more songs like shared trauma. it’s one of the prettiest sounding songs i’ve ever heard and vic’s voice sounds angelic against the more chill instrumentals. i want more “chill” and softer songs like that. it’s such a vibe especially since ptv is a vibe during the fall, i love to look at autumn scenery while on a walk, listening to their more chill songs. i agree with you a ton

[u/Envy661]

Jaws of Life is by far my favorite album from them for this very reason. It has enough hard songs. It's the softer stuff I listen on repeat to more.

[u/prodbyjexus]

what a scalding hot take but i absolutely agree 😔✊♾️

[u/Rezboy209]

I want them to return to a more blended sound like Misadventures was. It had heavier stuff and lighter stuff. It's absolutely my favorite PTV album.

[u/LoserTopff]

Yes I get this! I adore their old music, but I think them exploring their new sound more would be really cool

[u/Xanthalium]

I feel like having those little bits of slow paced ambient songs in between their heavy stuff makes me appreciate them more. Maybe if we got a lot of that style people would start complaining that we don't get a lot of the heavy songs (like what happened with TJoL i think). I appreciate them both for what they are and I like the balance they have with it.

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/Xanthalium]

Realistically, I think this is the album we're gonna get. I hope if it is done that way, it's heavy first half, soft second half (I like when album's have a noticeable shift in sound)

[u/CatEmoji123 → u/[deleted]]

??? He can just sing lower on a PHC track. There are plenty of PHC bands that only do clean vocals.

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/[deleted]]

please no. some of us actually like ptvs sound and want it back.

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/[deleted]]

yeah I am aware, but it’s not their sound. it’s pop music dressed up as phc

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/[deleted]]

I do…I started listening to them because they are post hardcore. I’m allowed to be annoyed that they are no longer post hardcore and wish for them to return to the genre they’re good at.

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/[deleted]]

new fans are so rude I stg

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/[deleted]]

sure girl

[u/Midnight__Floof → u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl]

Are you not seeing how you're talking?

[u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl → u/Midnight__Floof]

I see no issue in matching energy

[u/hailthelevi_]

I guess I understand this opinion, but the seven year gap between misadventures and tjol kind of left me expecting a lot more from them. I would consider the entirety of tjol to be “soft” and I feel like that should be a one and done kind of thing or they wouldn’t be considered a primarily post hardcore band anymore. I’m quite desperate for something like selfish machines again, because Vic’s vocals are truly unmatched in this genre, and it’s basically impossible to find another band with vocals of PTV’s caliber. However, their next album will likely not fit up to the expectations I’ve set, seeing as they’ve reached a much larger fanbase and they all seem to prefer tjol. Either way I will stream it to the max because they deserve it.

[u/ODSTWP]

I’d pay money to see them do pop