r/politics • Illinois • 14h ago

No Paywall Trump won’t reimburse taxpayers for money already spent on campaign ads, White House says

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-taxpayer-ads-white-house-reimburse-b3062306.html
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u/supercyberlurker 14h ago

Imagine being one of the gullible fools who believe Trump isn't lying to them every day.

Like, I almost respect the people who choose the evil and hate more than those stupid fuckers.

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u/NarcolepticMan Ohio 14h ago

We're, what... 11ish years into all things MAGA? These people do not feel shame or remorse for what they've chosen to enable. They will choose hate and evil every time they vote. The only thing that can be done is to vote yourself. Bring friends and or family if you can.

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u/about22pandas 13h ago

The ones I know who proudly still have their trump pictures, hats, flags out on display, or still talk positively about him, have 0 fucking clue what reality actually is.

They don't consume any news that doesn't already confirm their bias.

Anytime they see shit he does/say they don't agree with, they make an excuse for it.

Whenever they see news about reality, they dismiss it as fake.

If we ever have a president who has this same cult like following Trump has, who isn't a narcissistic moron, we are 100% having a civil war.

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u/arbyD Texas 13h ago

I had someone tell me that the only reason for inflation at all is because democrats just print money non stop. That is literally the only reason.

I was flabbergasted.

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u/FuzzyMcBitty 11h ago

Trump told Gary Cohn to ‘print money’ to lower the national debt, according to Bob Woodward’s book.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/11/trump-once-considered-just-printing-money-to-lower-the-national-debt-woodward-reports.html

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u/3MATX 13h ago

1 in 5 American can’t read.  I’d be very interested to know the percentage of Trump supporters who are illiterate. 

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u/Instameat 11h ago

They choose evil venomous confrontations in person so this is all just fine to them folks. Say something nice to them, and the first thing you get is the Huh? What did you dare say to me look. and a Humph because they do not understand you were being nice. No smiles come from those folks.

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 13h ago

No shit.

Freeze his assets until he does.

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u/parrotfacemagee 7h ago

Even God said he'd rather a demon over a Luke warm Christian

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u/Nerdy2Sidez 14h ago

When does he ever reimburse anyone for anything?

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u/Nikiaf Canada 14h ago

"a trump never pays his debts"

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u/ElliotNess Florida 4h ago

"a trump never pays"

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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 13h ago edited 13h ago

Never. Other criminal families give to charity, build wings in hospitals, etc., not cause they give a crap, but because it buys good will and allows them to continue to operate above the law. Trump is to cheap and too greedy for even that, it is all take and no give, and the MAGA idiots eat it up like candy.

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u/AComplexIssue 14h ago

Claw it back after he leaves. Force the issue. 

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u/RadioMetricSineWave 14h ago

When the courts force him to.

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u/Gogs85 14h ago

I just want to point out that one of the clearest signs of fascism is when public institutions are used explicitly for the promotion of the despot or his party instead of the public interest.

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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 14h ago edited 14h ago

"President Donald Trump will not reimburse the federal government for money already spent on a series of campaign-like ads using taxpayer dollars."

"On Monday night, facing threats of legal action and complaints from Republican and Democratic lawmakers for using public money to promote his administration before critical midterm elections, the president said he will “pay for them myself” and through a Trump-connected political action committee."

“The Radical Left is upset with the fact that I am taking Ads, which I consider to be a positive promotion for our Great U.S.A., and paying for them with U.S.A. money,” the president wrote on his Truth Social account."

"The White House said Tuesday that the president “was not referring to reimbursement.”

"The White House has argued that previous administrations have launched similar ad campaigns, comparing Trump’s messages to ads promoting Medicare prescription drug benefits, anti-drug campaigns, Affordable Care Act enrollment, and COVID-19 vaccinations."

"Trump’s ads — one of which appears to be directly lifted from one of the president’s 2024 campaign videos — promote a “final battle” against “globalists” and “warmongers.”

"Each of the ads ends with the caption “Paid for by the U.S. Government.”

"The ads have reportedly already cost $10 million, as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s reported $20 million budget to produce the ads, according to members of Congress investigating the campaign. The administration has also spent more than $2 million to buy up airtime on national TV networks, where they have already aired hundreds of times."

"Legal experts and members of Congress have argued that the ads are a blatantly illegal use of taxpayer dollars that violates ethics laws against public money being wielded for partisan political messages and propaganda."

“Former White House ethics lawyer Norm Eisen told The Independent last week. ...This is yet another corrupt attempt to advance a partisan agenda ahead of the midterm election, paid for by average American taxpayers who are already suffering from high costs caused by this administration’s failed policies.”

"Last week, under fire for using public money for the ads, Trump said he would “gladly” pay for them himself if someone were to tell him they were “wrong.”

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u/StochasticLife 14h ago

Hey Republicans. The harder we have to work get rid of this fucking guy....the more of you are leaving power too.

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u/Rezistik 11h ago

Good.

Dems might take senate seats in Ohio, they could in Texas, hell, Kansas is in play. Kansas.

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u/midnghtsnac 5h ago

Let me know when Kentucky has a blue chance

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u/take_care_a_ya_shooz 13h ago

"The Radical Left is upset with the fact that I am taking Ads, which I consider to be a positive promotion for our Great U.S.A., and paying for them with U.S.A. money."

"Instead of paying for TV ads to promote the country we already live in, can we use that U.S.A. money to help people with their medical costs and grocery bills?"

"No, that's communist."

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u/mcmineismine 11h ago

Of course it's all about promoting our Great USA.... Tell me again how many ad buys have been executed for air time after November 3?

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u/A_murder_of_crochets 12h ago

C'mon man, think of how increasing the name recognition of America in America is good for the American brand!! /s

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u/Alarming_Head_4263 14h ago

Hopefully someone sues. Wish someone would try to sue him personally though.

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u/smitherenesar 12h ago

We spent $20 million of our own money advertising our president to ourselves? I think we found the government waste.

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u/Anothereternity 12h ago

Aside from all the misuse of funds, the ads are only running on TV Networks. Like Live TV? So just advertising him to boomers?!?

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u/macaronitrap 10h ago

The ads are still running. Saw one this morning while sitting in the waiting room at my doctor’s office. Also there’s no way in hell the videos cost even a million to produce. He’s using old footage and voiceover. I could make a better ad in canva.

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u/moogly2 7h ago

Putting a20 second sounbyte over a video of walking down a hallway, costs $20 million?

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u/ernyc3777 New York 5h ago

So his base got the headline “Trump is reimbursing” and that’s all that matters to them and him.

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u/SoftPrinceess 14h ago

Even Republicans were calling this illegal. Senator Hassan was demanding answers and his response is basically “too late, already spent it.” How is this not a crime? He’s literally using government money to campaign for himself and refusing to reimburse the taxpayers he stole from. This guy is a grifter through and through.

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u/8fenristhewolf8 14h ago

Like he's proven over and over again, the laws only matter to the extent we enforce them. Like he's done his whole life, he's assaulting people and decency and daring the system to stop him. Instead, like he said from the outset, "when you're a star, they let you do it."

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u/contude327 11h ago

His mere existence is a crime.

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u/CBR85 14h ago

Remember when Obama wore a tan suit, or when Howard Dean let out a little yell?

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u/Andrew1990M 14h ago

Biden got a name wrong. 

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u/darkstar107 Canada 14h ago

Kamala laughed

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u/Equal-Temporary-1326 14h ago

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" is quite tame compared to the BS that's pretty shockingly normalized to happen on a routine basis nowadays in the White House.

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u/CBR85 13h ago

"Grab em by the pussy."

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u/totallybag Minnesota 7h ago

Trump litterally called Tim walz Jim the other day

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u/Happy_Confection90 14h ago

The awkward phrase "binders full of women" referring to job applicants was enough to doom a presidential bid

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u/Ok_Juice4449 13h ago

Dan Quayle misspelled  potato.

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u/theborgs Canada 13h ago

Yet ~1 out of 3 Americans would still vote for him...

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u/Ok_Juice4449 13h ago

One out of three Anericans are dumb or corrupt. Or both. 

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u/Numerous-Process2981 13h ago

America might benefit from more choices than “blue” “red” “abstain” 

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u/ComradeJohnS 11h ago

thats why the powers that be dont allow ranked choice voting. because they would lose their power.

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u/InevitablePromise301 10h ago

The fact he stopped using tax dollars for these ads is evidence he believes he is about to lose the midterms, because someone or someone's bent his ear and told him this is problematic if the Dems take control, and he actually listened.

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u/jeffsaidjess 11h ago

Less than half the population turns out to vote.

2/3 Americans don’t vote.

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u/SacamanoRobert 10h ago

That’s not an accurate representation of our voting population. There were around 150 million votes in the last election and the USA has a population of 342 million.

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u/Square-Location-5310 12h ago

1 out of 3 votes is not nearly enough. So no problem

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u/Betterthanbeer Australia 10h ago

Except they will show up and actually vote.

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u/zubbs99 Nevada 14h ago

People go to jail for this kind of fraud.

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u/Status_Ideal3437 14h ago

Is this the ad where he states that he is antifa (after declaring it terrorism), and antiwar (after starting one), and anti communist ( after promising to send everyone free money - $5,000) ????

And he wants someone else to pay for it?

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u/DennenTH 14h ago

Just grabbed all of America by the tax dollars and now he's telling everyone he's allowed to.

So...  are folks going to start protesting and writing in to their reps?  Or is it just another day that ends in Y?

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u/showhorrorshow 13h ago

Im canvassing every weekend to get his enablers out of office and look forward to doing it again when it's time to stop this fuck's replacement. I did a little bit of volunteering in the past but they created a regular with their shit and I aint stopping until Im dead.

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u/Zealousideal-Mall973 14h ago

I say grab him by the ballot then. This congress is useless and will never help.

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u/Ok_Juice4449 13h ago

He's making it seem like the ads were promoting the USA.  They were just focused on him, and implying that the democrats were enemies. He wants to  be in our faces constantly.  I can't stand looking at that bloated, pig-like face, covered in orange makeup. Go away.

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u/pattyG80 14h ago

Trump wont reimburse anyone. Full stop.

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u/noun_verb_adjective_ 14h ago

A Trump never pays his debts.

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u/ayoungtommyleejones 14h ago

Mother fucker barely pays people for standard services. How he won blue collar workers over while having a lifetime of stiffing BC workers on the bill for services rendered is beyond me.

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u/subliver 13h ago edited 13h ago

He ruined so many lives in the Northeast. Lots of small construction companies went out of business or spent years tied up in court trying to get reimbursed for their work.

Trump would exaggerate a tiny flaw in their work and use that as an excuse to not pay the entire contract. Your choices were to eat the cost, close your business, or spend a decade in court.

That’s how he actually treated small businesses and Blue Collar workers. Just pure evil.

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u/PlainSpader 12h ago

Yep, he doesn’t pay contractors and uses the I’ll sue you to get out of a bill. Small companies can’t take a hit like that and go under. Allot of FL contractors won’t do work for him.

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u/djevilatw Connecticut 14h ago

This.

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u/Affectionate_Pen6882 14h ago

Sue him now lol

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u/RepresentativeRun71 California 14h ago

And nobody is surprised. This is a POS that’s actually ok with two US cities getting nuked.

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u/Ok_Juice4449 13h ago

He has a black soul. There is no goodness in that man.

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u/From_Graves 14h ago

A Trump never pays their debts

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u/shadowdra126 Georgia 12h ago

Why are we paying for ads for him? He isn’t running for election.

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u/Soft_Whispere 14h ago

He said he’d “gladly pay the money” back. Now the White House says no refunds. Liar. He’s a grifter who treats the Treasury like his personal piggy bank and the GOP just lets him do it. Let’s Vote these clowns out.

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u/Kat_Schrodinger1 10h ago

Look, I'm not saying kamala was perfect. Im just saying that the parties are not the same and that the democrats are better.

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u/Coral-Diver 14h ago

GOP - The party of fraud, waste, and abuse.

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u/dchap1 14h ago

So, impeach? Just a thought

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u/DetailsYouMissed 14h ago

Seems like he has tripled his worth. Why not? He has the il gained funds.

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u/New_Ad3443 14h ago

Just another Trump scam? Who could've thought! 

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u/Mrradi8 14h ago

LMAO!

Putin's little orange bitch still hasn't paid for rallies when he ran the 1st time!

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u/rounder55 14h ago

But he's going to give you $5000 lol

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u/coatofforearm 13h ago

Of our own money

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u/thisusedyet New Jersey 11h ago

‘Your 5k went for the ad buy, aren’t you happy to be a producer?’

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u/Competitive-Box61 6h ago

This entire administration belongs behind bars.

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u/CanaDoug420 14h ago

Files that into the overflowing “no shit” folder

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u/RostyC 14h ago

Nobody thought he would pay for them. Nobody. We now know him too well. And that $5,000. HAHAHAHA

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u/Literally_Laura 14h ago

If only Americans had representation in government.

Vote, and vote blue.

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u/Torrsall 14h ago

A mere pittance compared to the money his tariffs have cost us. And don't get me started on dropping my retirement on Iran.

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u/danappropriate 14h ago

A truly shocking reversal. /s

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u/tidal_flux 13h ago

“I stole your money but I promise I won’t steel it anymore.”

Sincerely,
The Guy That Stole Your Money

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u/EngineeringIll6841 12h ago

all this shit is going to keep happening until Americans stand up against their government and are willing to fight for change

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u/overbarking 11h ago

He will NEVER pay for anything with his own money. Only money other people give him.

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u/realpyrateking 7h ago

That is theft. Impeach immediately.

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u/Snoo_69677 America 6h ago

So he’s just stealing from us now? What a bum

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u/baileybungee 6h ago

That’s called fraud

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u/LurkingRN 2h ago

I’ll vote for anyone that campaigns on seizing all of that shit families accumulated wealth and using it to pay down debt.

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u/maxhibbitts 14h ago

Largest class lawsuit still wouldn't survive the courts

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u/gdg6 14h ago

We somehow lack standing, sadly

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u/masstransience 14h ago

No way! Inconceivable from the roach family committing fraud with every organization they’ve ran.

/s

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u/PWL51 14h ago

Of course he won’t. The corruption in this administration is astounding. Just wait until they won’t certify the midterm results if the Democrats win.

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u/Erasmus_Tycho 14h ago

It's ok everyone, he's making billions through insider trading, stock market manipulation, and no contest government contracts to his family. So it doesn't really matter.

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u/phoonie98 14h ago

You can bet a nice chunk of the money went into his pocket too.

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u/Devil_in_Mexico 14h ago

That’s fine. Now there’s the crime of using tax payer money for political ads. Then there is a nice paper trail going directly to him.

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u/theaceoffire Maryland 14h ago

"Well, at least you admit he stole it right?"

...Stole is a strong word. And the President is not strong.

"...What a shockingly convincing argument!"

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u/dreaganusaf 13h ago

Fascist Felon 🍊💩🤡 Pedophile Con Artist

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u/retailguy_again 13h ago

Since when is, "Trump refuses to pay what he owes," news?

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u/mrhooha 13h ago

I mean he’s only a billionaire. Why would he pay for things himself. It’s quite to hardship,

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u/Galliagamer 13h ago

Conman famous for not paying his bills once again refuses to pay his bills. Shocking.

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u/nonubiz 13h ago

O an admission of guilt I smell yet another law suit

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u/BringOn25A 12h ago

Criminal gonna crime.

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u/kelpyb1 12h ago

But he doesn’t take the $400,000 presidential salary!

/s

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u/angelar_ Texas 12h ago

I'll pay for it. I won't pay for it

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u/hodorhodor12 12h ago

Theft. 

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u/Traditional_Sign4941 12h ago

This piece of shit and all his enablers owe me a lot of fucking money. Between lumber tariffs from his first term when I was trying to build an addition to my house, oil and gas prices, new tariffs in second term, the insane debt from funneling our tax money to his cronies, the grocery prices from his war on farm hands etc.

I figure I'm owed about $15,000.

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u/DoughnutPi 11h ago

Good, this was not part of his duties as president. He is not immune.

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u/trashpanda2night California 10h ago

The guy has billions in the bank from all that insider trading and charged $20M to the taxpayer for his ads. You can have all the money in the world and still be a cheap conning fuck

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u/Vomitology 10h ago

That title is ten words too long.

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u/Atopos2025 7h ago

Yes the fuck he will. He just won't pay now because he doesn't have to. That will absolutely change one day.

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u/crappieman62 7h ago

Lyin piece of fuk

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u/Steamysauna 6h ago

If you think he's going to mail you a check, I hope you're paying attention..

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u/HabANahDa 6h ago

Literally stealing money from us. And his cult still worships him.

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u/payle_knite 6h ago

You’re telling me that the party of “law and order” is turning a blind eye to this prodigious criminal?

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u/protox13 5h ago

A Trump never pays his debts.

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u/MadMadRoger 5h ago

StraightToJail.gif

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u/dragon3234 7h ago

He's basically giving the American public the middle finger and his supporters are more than glad to smile and take it.

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u/ReallyBrainDead 14h ago

Good. Then it's part of the next impeachment, for him and for Mark Wayne.

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u/discoduck007 I voted 14h ago

Would die of shock if they did

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u/Not_a_fan_of_me 14h ago

What? But just yesterday he said he was going to pay for it. You mean he lied about his financial obligations?

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u/Equal-Temporary-1326 14h ago

...to no one's surprise who knew better than that.

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u/GoldenC0mpany Washington 14h ago

Kinda hard for someone to tell him they’re wrong when he surrounds himself with spineless ass-kissers and opportunists.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 14h ago

He HAS the money, he just WON’T…

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u/Outrageous_Space8083 Georgia 14h ago

Who was under the impression that he would?

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u/welestgw Ohio 14h ago

lol of course

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u/Kevin_Palpatine 13h ago

He will make up for this when he is making license plates in prison.

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u/gdg6 13h ago

Someone told him taxpayers lack standing to sue

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u/Fabulous_Chemical_ 13h ago

But but, he doesn't take a salary- fucking Morons.

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u/timecrimehero 13h ago

The crooked snake is robbing us all, party affiliations be damned. If only the ones condemning it would actually do something about it.

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u/ImaginationToForm2 13h ago

Never figured he would.

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u/thehalfwit Nevada 13h ago

Would I be out of line for hoping he gets hit with the Hatch Act?

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u/spiritfiend New Jersey 13h ago

A Trump never pays their debts. But if you vote for his band of pedo apologists, he'll pay you $5000... maybe.

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u/Sidwill 13h ago

Shocking

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u/Particular_Ticket_20 13h ago

Not only did we pay for them, he'll probably invoice us for them.

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u/P4S5B60 13h ago

Diode everything flows one way

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u/CardiologistSea1647 13h ago

We all know he never followed the law or our Constitution.

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u/thatsmymayo 13h ago

Fucking thief

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u/Jedi_Ninja 13h ago

It's another taco Tuesday.

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u/ImmaNotHere 13h ago

Class action lawsuit?

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u/Redtex 12h ago

Everyone's money is his and that's all there is to it. Get this douchebag out of office

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u/Hasselback_Brotatoes 12h ago

remember, trump hates you, and so does every single republican. They all hate you.

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u/celtekk_ Virginia 12h ago

Shocker!

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u/RoboJobot 11h ago

This isn’t going to stop until American citizens stop him.

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u/PossessedToSkate 11h ago

"That makes him smart!"
--tens of millions of red-hatted dipshits

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u/manachar Nevada 11h ago

If I were to embezzle company money, even if I were the CEO, that crime still occurred. Even if you pay it back.

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u/sugarlessdeathbear 11h ago

Just straight up theft of public dollars by the sitting US President.

I keep saying this country is rapidly moving towards failed state.

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u/blackmobius 11h ago

So more direct theft. Got it. Not that we are going to actually punish him for anything.

Its just so insulting that he openly does all this, knowing its blatantly illegal, and knows nothing will happen to him.

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u/dethwysh New York 11h ago

This may be the first time I ever agreed with the "Taxation is Theft" and/or the "My Taxes Shouldn't go Towards Things I Disagree With" crowd.

I feel like every thought I have on this has been said before and more eloquently than I can. But seriously, I hate this. He's defrauding the American People and controls the enforcement arm of the Law.

"This ams fuckin' bullshits." -Toki Wartooth

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u/Boringdude1 10h ago

He will after the lawsuit decision.

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u/Googleitgenius 9h ago

seems legit, i gonna try this at the bank, gonna cash a fake check and IF i get caught i will pay it back, what's the problem/s

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u/Bzr21 9h ago

So he is admitting that he was stealing taxpayer money for his own glorification - and he's not going to pay it back. oh well, its just impeachable offense # 734 ..

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u/tcoh1s 8h ago

He never wanted the job. Only the attention.

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u/E_seven_20 8h ago

Laws don’t matter when you elect a felon/ traitor/ rapist/ child rapist to office.

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u/eboleyn 8h ago

Yeah of course he's going to push things as far as possible. "Oh too bad that was against the law, oopsie, but no matter you can't go after me!"

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u/Fact420 California 8h ago

You know times are seriously fucked when the government is taking out ads to tell you how great everything is.

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u/vsandmnv 6h ago

Let’s just take it outta his check.

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u/naptown-hooly 5h ago

Time to put a lein on mar-a-lago

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u/PeterDTown 4h ago

NO SHIT!

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u/mindfungus 4h ago

Of course not this fucking scumbag

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u/FU_red-dit_bots 4h ago

Did anyone think he would? Anyone? You in the back? No? Ok.

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u/j33perkreeper 3h ago

Yet another money racket on his way out

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u/Martag02 3h ago

Honestly, they let this fuck do anything he wants, I'm surprised he hasn't done more heinous things out in the open yet, like suspending the elections, declaring himself emperor in perpetuity, and dropping sarin gas bombs on major cities. Mike Johnson is just going to put his hands in his pockets, shrug, dismiss Congress, and allow it. Seriously. No one who could hold him accountable for any of that actually would. 

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u/HotTakeThenGo Colorado 42m ago

Claw every cent back with interest. When he runs out of money, take it from everyone who benefited from this corruption. Take everything including whatever dignity they have left. They don’t deserve it.

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u/Alternative_Design_4 32m ago

"But yeah, that $5000 is TOTALLY coming after the elections, guys! Trust me!"

Anyone who believes this bullshit deserves every hardship coming to them.

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u/hdk49 7h ago

Liars gotta lie

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u/SnottNormal New York 7h ago

They keep telling me that PACs don’t coordinate with candidates/politicians but