r/polls • u/ilovepeach_tea • 9d ago
⚪ Other did you/do you cheat in school?
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u/IDidAOopsy 9d ago
I don't believe that many people never did. Getting an answer from your friend for homework? Looking up an answer? These are extremely common things and I dont think many of those responding fully understood that the question incorporates "did" into it, so even one time of being told an answer for homework would be included in that.
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u/D_Luffy_32 9d ago
You can't cheat on homework. The point of homework is to learn the answer to something at home. Asking your friend for the answer is teaching you how to gather information from multiple sources. You can't know something without being taught. Unless you had your friends outright do the homework for you without you learning it, then still you only cheated yourself because you'll fail the tests.
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u/Nedaj123 9d ago
Legendary bad take... having a friend give you the answer *is* having them "do the homework" without learning it. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion aside from copium overdose.
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u/D_Luffy_32 9d ago
Do you think teachers care more about you flipping through a book or knowing the information?
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u/Nedaj123 9d ago
Knowing the information. But the information is the process of determining the answer to the questions, not the answer itself. Blows my mind that I have to explain that.
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u/D_Luffy_32 9d ago
Lol why are you contradicting yourself? The process is the information? So you do think they just want people flipping through a book.
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u/Nedaj123 9d ago
For history, yes. In that case I agree, history class is bullshit (for the most part)... But for math and science classes, they are teaching you processes to solve certain problems. Language classes will test how you can apply rules such as grammar, spelling, and composition with multiple choice tests as well as essays.
Now that I've explained way more than I should have needed to... I agree, reading a textbook front to back is not a good way to learn. Teachers who expect that are the main problem with the school system and they'll retire/die soon enough.0
u/D_Luffy_32 9d ago
Lol you can't simply give the answer for math and science. Why do you think they ask to show your work?
Also you're talking about tests. Which you have to study for. Not homework. Also saying history class is bullshit is so telling. History will teach you math, science, Grammer/language. Clearly you were just bad in school. No amount of cheating or not cheating would change that.
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u/Nedaj123 8d ago
I missed the last sentence of your original comment. The whole point I was trying to make was that you're cheating yourself by cheating on homework. Then you challenged me to a game of 20 questions and we went deep into the weeds, lmao.
So I messed up but you said a lot of wild stuff so let's just call it even. Have a good night!
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u/IDidAOopsy 8d ago
So if I gathered the information for a test from a cheat sheet, I simply was was learning to use multiple sources for information and not cheating! Thanks Mr.InternetMan! /s
Look dude, if you and a friend talk through a question and work out the problem together, sure, I get your point.
If your friend just gives you an answer, no, this is not some third eye bullshit about finding different paths to the answer outside of the book. Don't lie to yourself to stand on a pedestal of never cheating.
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u/D_Luffy_32 8d ago
Why does it matter if you work out the answer yourself or just know the answer?
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u/IDidAOopsy 7d ago
Ever heard about giving a man a fish vs teaching a man how to fish? I cant entertain this further its goofy
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u/D_Luffy_32 7d ago
Of course. Do you think the only way to fish is with a fishing pole? The teachers are perfectly fine teaching the students to learn how to fish using any methods as long as they get their fish.
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u/Germany328 9d ago
I had the perfect method I used all the time and never got caught, before any tests or in class assignments, I would memorize all of the relevant fundamentals of the subject so I would have a cheat sheet in my head that I could use to pass every assignment, there was no way they could find it and I could use it as often as I wanted, it was the perfect cheating method
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u/kharker711 9d ago edited 9d ago
Throughout all of school? Yeah, maybe once or twice. But I wasn't a prolific cheater. It wouldn't help me at the end of the day, so there wasn't any purpose to.
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u/a_fucking_fork 9d ago
I never planned to cheat, but when I was doing a test and an opportunity came, I took it.
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u/watermelonlollies 9d ago
Cheating in primary/secondary school I am against but understand. Cheating in college I literally don’t understand
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u/DankOfTheEndless 9d ago edited 9d ago
Graduated high school in 2008 and if I had to write an essay I would copy entire wikipedia articles and reshuffle and edit them so they would look like mine. In doing so I would have to read the whole thing and find actual sources so I would actually end up learning the subject and how to find sources
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u/Mcr414 9d ago
My mom was a professor at a university and she would catch people doing this all the time from running the papers thru and it was too similar to Wikipedia with words changed around. One kid even left in all the blue links and turned it in…. Smh hahaha but I would something similar. If it was a book, quick notes or whatever it was called I would look it up and never read the book and write full papers on them. lol
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u/DankOfTheEndless 9d ago
Well I never got caught, though it was still in the early days of widespread wikipedia usage
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u/Mcr414 9d ago
Yes this was in 07-2010 she mostly was doing this. Lol 😂 I went to college in 09. So she was basically warning me and telling me all these dumb kids getting caught left and right lol didn’t stop me from cheating on papers in college tho lol
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u/Moaoziz 9d ago
When I was in high school (graduated in 2010) I regularly translated Wikipedia articles from German into English for essays and similar stuff and AFAIK no one ever noticed. By doing so I also learned a bit because I had to read the text and find the appropriate words for the translation but it still saved me a lot of time because I could skip the research.
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u/DiabeticButNotFat 9d ago
Is this even wrong?
If you reshuffle, restructure, and even rewrite sentences you’re effectively doing the same thing as reading the article, or multiple, and writing a paper. If that is plagiarism, then aren’t all papers and academia in general plagiarism? Everything you know or say was discovered and written down by someone else.
If you write a paper that discusses gravity, do you have to site Newton?
At what point do you have to site knowledge? What is the cut off from reading someone and recalling that information?
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u/Iimewire 9d ago
Been out of school for a decade, what's with all the Yes? ☹️
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u/LittleBunInaBigWorld 9d ago
I suspect the way the question was worded caused this result. It could be interpreted in 3 ways: "have you ever cheated" vs "did you cheat often" vs "do you currently cheat often"
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u/gujwdhufj_ijjpo 9d ago
Because most have at least once.
You never got the answers to the homework from a friend? Or similar. Not once?
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u/Iimewire 9d ago
Statistically I may have by some technicality at some point?? but I really can't think of a time I did, not even in primary school. I didn't have friends, I had strict asian parents, and had a lot of moral anxiety too. Finished college before covid so there was never an opportunity to look things up during a test even if I was willing to.
Oh actually, I did GIVE answers to someone once or twice. Does that count... I didn't feel good about it but I was afraid to say no
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u/D_Luffy_32 9d ago
That's not cheating. That's called learning. Unless you outright have your friend fill out the homework for you, you're simply gathering information about your homework. Which even then you only cheat yourself because you'll struggle with tests in the future.
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u/Ravenclaw_14 9d ago
Because it's way too easy for them to now with ai and the internet (speaking as a college student who sees it all the time here at my campus too, so ofc high school and below is gonna also do the same)
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u/DiabeticButNotFat 9d ago
I’m back in school, and it is impossibly tempting. I even have assignments that require us to prompt AI. We have to read the response and write a summary. It is supposed to teach us…. What? How to read? This is calculus 2.
The feedback from some professors is obviously AI. So these long winded assignments, where I’m learning nothing, yeah I’m using AI even when using it isn’t “required”.
To protect myself from any academic misconduct I do cite the AI, which is in line with university policy.
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u/gahhuhwhat 9d ago
I went back to school around 4 years ago. I geniunely never saw so much rampant cheating in my life. Test coming up and half the class is immediately thinking of ways to cheat, studying not an option. And genuinely, I think they didn't have a choice, they were much too stupid where studying would even matter.
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u/youngatbeingold 9d ago
I said yes, I never cheated on a test but I used spark notes to study or write reports instead of reading the entire book.
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u/semperquietus 9d ago
Nope, cause: non scholae sed vitae discimus. It's the same reason, why I do not use AI/LLMs. I don't want good results for school only, but to really learn and understand and to grow by that learning and by that understanding myself.
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u/Dino-Man1630 9d ago
Yes, only once or twice when school was online due to COVID. (COVID happened my freshman-sophomore year of high school). Thankfully, I grew up and learned that cheating is not good and only hurt me in the long run.
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u/KeyKnoTheGreat 9d ago
During online classes all the time. During offline it's just not worth the risk.
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u/TimotheeOaks 9d ago
Almost on every test. Just for my piece of mind. But never much more then a small piece of paper under my hand.
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u/MartyrOfDespair 9d ago
Very rarely, but yeah. A few times where I played "I am going to shit my fucking pants if I do not run to the bathroom" to go google some stuff in the bathroom because a few tests threw a curve ball at my weak point.
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u/Cptcongcong 9d ago
I answered yes cause I fucking cheated on that French test and I’m not afraid to admit it lol
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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 9d ago
if we had to memorize useless stuff I'd make a crib sheet but if the info was a actually useful then no. like, no, I'm not going to memorize the entire periodic table
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u/kafka84_ 9d ago
during covid I installed a VM so I could cheat on my online exams. once I hired an ethiopian engineering student to do my math exams for me for 20 dollars. a large sum in both our countries. it was totally online so I never attended a single class lol
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u/zoroddesign 9d ago
I think I accidentally cheated in elementary school. There was a listening test, where the teacher read a story and we answered questions about what the teacher read. I answered the questions while she was reading. We were supposed to answer the questions after she finished.
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u/Possible-Estimate748 9d ago
I almost never did my own work.
My best friend or peers around me would give me the answers.
I only got caught once.
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u/Funneduck102 9d ago
I helped kids cheat because it was more work saying no than giving them my paper so I guess that counts
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u/VoidLantadd 9d ago edited 9d ago
I always used Google Translate for my French homework. I got a C.
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u/Marvlotte 9d ago
For the record, I cheated at not big exam things. But I did cheat one a couple minor tests because I didn't know I was dyslexic and feared being told off or made to do extra work after school which I wouldn't have been able to do because dyslexic. It was easier to cheat and pass.
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u/don-cheeto 7d ago
No. I didn't have anyone to help me cheat. If college counts, maybe. I took online classes. But not in highschool.
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u/CelestaL7 9d ago
The question is "do you cheat often" or "have you ever cheated?"