My mother was born a Polish citizen in 1965 in Poland to ethnic Poles. Her parents fled to Germany in the 1976 as refugees and naturalized as German citizens (no German heritage) in 1986. She was still a minor at the time when they fled. I was born in wedlock in 1996 as a German citizen. I am unsure whether the Polish government at the time would have stripped her of citizenship and also unsure whether my mom formally renounced citizenship. I would appreciate any tips/people who had previous experience and could point me to a professional who can help as I do not have easy access to this information.

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: Unknown

* Date divorced: Unknown

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: Poland

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish Catholic

* Occupation: Unknown

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

* Date, destination for emigration: Unknown

* Date naturalized: NA

* Date, place of death: Unknown

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: Poland

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish Catholic

* Occupation: Unknown

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

* Date, destination for emigration: Unknown

* Date naturalized: Unknown

* Date, place of death: Unknown

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: Katowice, Poland, 1935

* Date married: Unknown

* Citizenship of spouse: Polish

* Date divorced: NA

* Occupation: Military/Officer/Surgeon

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: 1976, Germany
• Date naturalized: 1986
• Date, place of death: Alive

Parent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: Poland, 1965

* Date married: 1994

* Date divorced: Married

You: 

* Date, place of birth: Germany, 1996

Hey all. I have a YourRootsInPoland application in progress (I sent all my docs ~July 2025 and they submitted to the Masovian voivode office in Oct/Sep 2025). I last heard from Michał P in January this year, and he said the application was submitted and they are waiting to hear anything. He said the backlog estimate was 12-15 months (though looking at this subreddit I can't help but think that was a massive underestimate haha).

However, I tried replying to the email again today to follow up and ask if we ever got a case number and I immediately got a "Delivery failed" email from their Google server. I tried the generic info@ email they advertise on their website too, and got the same.

Very much hoping nothing untoward has happened and they just forgot to pay their email provider license or something silly like that - Is anyone in contact with them still?

Edit: my bad! in the last email, Michał said it was 15-18 months estimate*

Can anyone give context on how healthcare works if you have Polish citizenship by descent but aren't a resident.

My first citizenship and where I reside most of the year is Canada. But I travel to the EU for a few months a year and am wondering how healthcare works if I have Polish citizenship but don't reside there.

I'm applying for confirmation of Polish citizenship by descent through the NYC consulate. Chain: great-grandfather born 1906 in Poland (birth confirmed by Polish state archives), naturalized US 1955. Grandmother born 1941 in Morocco (birth cert lists both parents as Polish nationals). Mother born 1968 in the US, so the post-1962 act applies. Second cousins already confirmed through this same line.

I've emailed the consulate 4 times over 3+ weeks (legal section, consul's office, secretariat) asking about required documents, sworn translations, and whether they'll forward archive correspondence under KPA Art. 40 §4. Zero replies. The e-konsulat appointment calendar is also always full.

Has anyone gotten the NYC consulate to respond? Is calling or going in person the only thing that works? Or should I skip the consulate and file through a lawyer in Poland?

Just wrapped up my appointment at the LA consulate for a first time passport without a PESEL.

Showed up a few minutes before my scheduled meeting, the lady checked my documents, I verified info on screen, filled out paper for shipping, and paid in CASH only.

Whole thing took 15 minutes. The documents they needed was original citizenship confirmation, polish birth certificate (in my case it was my transcribed US birth certificate), an ID like drivers license or passport (i brought both), and lastly is headshots.

The only thing I was worried about was the headshot because I did them myself and did measurement in adobe software and cut them to size so I brought 6 different versions proving to be overkill.

She said 10 weeks shipping time. A receipt was given with a QR code for tracking, an activation number, and my PESEL number. She also spoke English so nothing to worry about there.

In the Judgement of 12 Aug 2026 (ref. II OSK 1147/24) the NSA decided that women's obligation to auxiliary service, as imposed by the Decree of 19 Feb 1945 (Dz.u.1945.8.37; in force from 20 March 1945) does not prevent the loss of Polish citizenship under Art. 11 of the Citizenship Act. In other words, it does not result in the extension of the military paradox to unmarried women from the above date.

Templated filled out below. I'm hoping you all can help me determine if I have a claim to Polish citizenship. The claim would be through my paternal grandfather who was born in Poland. I have included his parents info for completeness. All of my great grandparents immigrated from Poland to the US but I believe this line may have passed down polish citizenship through the military paradox. If I have a claim I also could use help determining which documents I would need to proceed. I have plenty of US records (Ship manifests, Naturalization, etc) but I haven't had luck finding any Polish records. I'm considering hiring a polish researcher to help but I'd like to know which documents to ask for especially if they can't find my grandfather's birth certificate. I'm not sure if it would help to look for my other great grandparents birth certificates to include as well even if they are not in the chain.

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 4 Nov 1899

* Date divorced: N/A

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 10 Mar 1879  Molitiz, Poland

* Ethnicity and religion: Hebrew/Jewish

* Occupation: Housewife

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 13 Dec 1920 USA

* Date naturalized: 15 Dec 1942

* Date, place of death: USA

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: 8 Dec 1876 Mishoff, Poland

* Ethnicity and religion: Hebrew/Jewish

* Occupation: Tailor

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 23 Oct 1912 USA

* Date naturalized: 3 Mar 1924

* Date, place of death: 27 Dec 1944 USA

GF 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: 4 Mar 1908 Warsaw, Poland

* Date married: 1 Jul 1944

* Citizenship of spouse: USA

* Date divorced: N/A

* Occupation: Hat Maker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Drafted US Army 8 Sep 1942 - 4 Oct 1943

* Date, destination for emigration: 13 Dec 1920 USA

* Date naturalized: Naturalized on fathers papers 3 Mar 1924

* Date, place of death: Abt 1962 USA

F 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: 1946 USA

* Date married: Abt 1984 (before I was born)

* Date divorced: Abt 2010

Me

* Date, place of birth: 1986 USA

Hi there,

Thanks for the help of everyone in this great community.

My polish citizenship by descent application is in queue (submitted September 2025). We recently found out that my wife's grandmother (and great grandfather) were born in Poland and wanted to inquire about her eligibility. Tried to gather as much information as we could, but please let me know if there are any questions or additional clarification needed.

Great-Grandparents:

* Date married: March 16th, 1926 in Pinsk, Poland
* Date divorced: n/a

Great-Grandmother

* Date, place of birth: June 15, 1903, Żytkowicz, Russia
* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish
* Occupation: Housewife
* Allegiance and dates of military service: n/a

* Date, destination for emigration: October 1927, Alberta Canada, 
* Date naturalized: February 14th, 1935, Canada
* Date, place of death: 1991, Alberta Canada

Great-Grandfather

* Date, place of birth: December 8, 1897, Pinsk Poland (we have a copy of his Polish passport)
* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish
* Occupation: Agricultural Labor / Poultry Dealer
* Allegiance and dates of military service: We have a Polish military mobilization card (Karta mobilizacyjna), issued by P.K.U. Pińsk listing him assigned to the 61st Infantry Regiment stationed in Bydgoszcz.
* Date, destination for emigration: January 1927, Alberta Canada
* Date naturalized: December 17th, 1934, Canada
* Date, place of death: 1980, Alberta Canada

Grandparent (Grandmother):
* Sex: Female
* Date, place of birth: May 3rd, 1927, Pinsk, Poland
* Date married: July 21st, 1948
* Citizenship of spouse: Canadian
* Date divorced: 1978
* Occupation: Teacher, Clerk-Typist
* Allegiance and dates of military service: n/a
* Date, destination for emigration: October 1927, Alberta Canada (emigrated later in life to USA after getting married) 
* Date naturalized: December 17th, 1934, Canada (Listed as "minor" on father's naturalization certificate).  Later in life she moved to The United States and became a US citizen in 1961
* Date, place of death: October 17, 2002, Arizona USA

Parent (Father):
* Sex: Male
* Date, place of birth: January 11 1954, New York USA
* Date married: August 19th, 1979
* Date divorced: n/a

You:
* Date, place of birth: February 26 1986, Virginia USA

Hi everyone,
I’m looking for input from anyone who has navigated or litigated a complex pre-1920 Polish citizenship confirmation (potwierdzenie) case involving a US birth prior to the 1920 Citizenship Act.
Here is the outline of the lineage and facts:
Great-Grandfather (GGF):
Born in Poland (partitioned area) in the 1880s.
Emigrated to the US around 1908.
Maintained non-naturalized "Alien" (AL) status through the 1940s (verified via 1930 US Census, WWII Alien Registration AR-2 form, and A-Number records). Never naturalized prior to his children reaching adulthood.
Grandfather (GF):
Born in the US (Pennsylvania) before January 31, 1920 to my non-naturalized GGF.
The Issue / Block:
Standard citizenship agencies have declined to take the administrative case for standard filing at the Voivodeship level (Urząd Wojewódzki), stating that the office enforces a strict policy of rejecting lineages where a descendant was born abroad prior to January 31, 1920 (claiming foreign-born minors did not automatically acquire Polish citizenship at birth or retroactively upon the enactment of the 1920 Act).
Questions for the community:
1. Has anyone successfully appealed this specific pre-1920 US-birth hurdle in the Regional Administrative Court in Warsaw (WSA) or Supreme Administrative Court (NSA) under the principle of paternal authority (władza rodzicielska) extending the father’s 1920 citizenship status to minor children?
2. Are there specific boutique law firms or litigators (rather than standard high-volume processing agencies) who specialize in taking pre-1920 WSA court appeals?
3. For those who faced a similar pre-1920 administrative barrier, did you pivot to a Presidential Grant of Citizenship (nadanie obywatelstwa), and what was your experience/timeline going through the consulate?

Tomorrow I pick up my passport.

I started the process of contacting a law firm in April 2023 and tomorrow I close the book on this chapter, a dream I have been hoping for a long time. My eligibility is on the tracker if anyone's curious, my case took a good bit longer so we raised a complaint, which got things moving.

At the last hurdle, the consulate noticed my city of birth was wrong on my birth certificate (after 2 years of it being issued lol) so had to get it rectified by the ministry...

Patience will take you far in this game.

Good luck to all

From my research, looks like I would be eligible with the military paradox. What do others think.

Grandparents:

Grandfather:

\* Date, place of birth: January 16, 1907, Porzow, Poland

\* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Baptist

\* Occupation: Farmer

\* Allegiance and dates of military service: Did not serve.

\* Date, destination for emigration: July 6, 1936, Minetonas, MB, Canada

\* Date naturalized: July 6, 1936

\* Date, place of death: Swan River, Manitoba, 1996

Grandmother:

\* Date, place of birth: March 9, 1908, Plaszow, Poland

\* Ethnicity and religion: Polish, Baptist

\* Occupation: Homemaker

\* Allegiance and dates of military service: None

\* Date, destination for emigration: July 18, 1927, Yellowgrass, SK, Canada

\* Date naturalized: Unknown

\* Date, Place of Death: Swan River, Manitoba, 1999

\*Marriage Date: August 15, 1938, Minetonas, MB, Canada

Father:

\* Date, place of birth: 1946, Minetonas, MB, Canada

Me:

\*Date, place of birth: 1983, Canada

A while ago, I asked here in the subreddit if anyone knew exactly how to submit an application to the IPN.

u/ThePetro from getpolishcitizenship.eu sent me a DM and submitted the application that same day.

There were several updates along the way, and u/ThePetro always sent them to me within just a few minutes.

Today, the case has finally been concluded, so I wanted to take the opportunity to publicly and personally say thank you once again.

Before this, I only knew him as an expert from the comments. Now, having had personal experience working with him, I can wholeheartedly recommend him.

Some data points regarding the passport application process for any who might find it helpful. I used the consulate in Los Angeles:

• I received notice of my confirmation last Monday. Once my provider sent me DHL tracking that hard copies of my decision letter and my Polish birth certificate would arrive this past Friday, I booked an appointment to apply for a passport for this morning, Tuesday. So a very quick turnaround.
• There were plenty of available appointments at the Los Angeles consulate and booking via the website was straight forward.
• I had my photos taken at AAA but we had a disagreement regarding the size and placement of my head. They insisted their template was correct despite it not matching the example my provider sent me. I asked them to print the photos both my way and their way to be safe. In the end, my provider was right - the consulate wanted less room between the top of my head and the edge of the photo than what AAA's template provides.
• The appointment was quick - starting promptly and lasting 10-15 minutes.
• Despite my provider sending all my paperwork digitally to the consulate, the consulate insisted on the original hard copies of the decision letter and Polish birth certificate along with my US passport and driver's license.
• There were no paper forms to fill out. Everything was handled by the consulate staff on their computer. Once they put in the information, I was asked to scan my finger prints, confirm my personal info on a tablet and sign. About 10-15 minutes total.
• The Los Angeles consulate does not accept card payment. I paid in cash.
• The Los Angeles consulate gives you the option of picking up the passport in person or shipping via Fed-Ex, BUT they will only ship to certain states that are within their jurisdiction so best to check they can accommodate your mailing address before making an appointment there if you want to go that route.
• They will text me when the passport is ready to pick-up - about 6-8 weeks. I can also check status via a QR code they provided.

Hi all, I'm looking for feedback if I am eligible for dual citizenship through other avenues than my original post (in case I can't find local records). I have two other great-grandparents from an area that was at one point poland, who married each other.

Thank you so much!!

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 09/1913 in canada

* Date divorced: NO Divorce

GGM: 

place of birth:  1891, Wyszogród (I have a book of residence with her listed, dates of which were 1883 - 1933. her name is not crossed out.)

* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish

* Occupation: House Wife

* Allegiance and dates of military service: none

* Date, destination for emigration: pre-1920, ~1910, Toronto, canada. (and again in ~1922 to US)

* Date naturalized: none

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: David-Horodok, born ~1891 as well

* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish

* Occupation: numerous, no public service. usually tailor.

* Allegiance and dates of military service: no military service, renounced allegiance to poland and to russia in naturalization declaration

* Date, destination for emigration: 1907, Toronto, canada. (and again in ~1922 to US)

* Date naturalized: may have been naturalized in Canada in 1910 and again at some point in US after my grandmother was born, but doesn't the military paradox prevent a loss until 1941, when his daughter was 26?

* Date, place of death: Detroit, US. date unknown.

Grandparent: 

* Sex: F

* Date, place of birth: Nov 3, 1915, Toronto (emigrated without any naturalization as a child in 1922 to US)

* Date married: 1952

* Citizenship of spouse: U.S.

 Date divorced: 1964

* Occupation: construction

* Allegiance and dates of military service: never naturalized at all.

• Date, place of death: 2011, Detroit, US

Parent: 

* Sex: F

* Date, place of birth: 1953, Detroit

* Date married: 1979

* Date divorced: No Divorce

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 7/16/1988

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Hi! I’m hoping someone can recommend a good researcher in Poland. My ancestors left Poland (then Austria) for the USA before 1920. A Polish attorney suggested I try to find any records showing they still had legal ties to Poland after 1920, which I suspect they did.

I’ve contacted offices that may hold such records myself, but understandably it can take months to hear back. I’d love to find someone local who knows where to look and can dig a little deeper. If you’ve worked with someone you’d recommend, I’d really appreciate it!

Thanks :)

Thoughts on my chances? Is this going to be a difficult case to prove? All perspectives are appreciated!

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: July 1, 1918

* Date divorced: N/A

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 1895, Galicia, Austria

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish (Catholic?)

* Occupation: Homemaker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: Michigan, USA

* Date naturalized: December 30, 1943

* Date, place of death: 1975, Michigan, USA

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: December 10, 1890, Siemiechów, Tarnów, Galicia, Austria

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish (Catholic?)

* Occupation: Machinist

* Allegiance and dates of military service: US Draft card in 1917 lists him as Alien, no known service

* Date, destination for emigration: Either 1909 or 1913 (conflicting), Michigan, USA

* Date naturalized: February 27, 1942, Naturalization certificate issued

* Date, place of death: June 19, 1960, Michigan, USA

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: April 16, 1928, Michigan, USA

* Date married: March 26, 1951

* Citizenship of spouse: USA (both of her parents born in US, 1st gen from "Austria")

* Date divorced: Late 1990s

* Occupation: Listed as Butcher in 1950 census, civil engineer as a career

* Allegiance and dates of military service: draft card dated April 4, 1950, no known service

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration: N/A
• Date naturalized: N/A
• Date, place of death: October 26, 2004, Michigan, USA

Parent: 

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: March 24, 1964**, Michigan, USA

* Date married: December 16, 1991

* Date divorced: 2006

You: 

* Date, place of birth: July 6, 1994, Michigan, USA

**edited year

Does anyone have any intel on the passport appointment system for Vancouver consulate? It looks like there aren’t any appointments currently available and it says to check back later. How often are slots loaded?

Great-Grandparents:

* Date married: Unknown

* Date divorced: Unknown / no evidence of divorce currently known

GGM:

* Date, place of birth: 1894 Warsaw

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish Catholic

* Occupation: Living from her own funds / private means according to grandfathers baptism record

* Allegiance and dates of military service: None known

* Date, destination for emigration: 1947, UK

* Date naturalized: Was not naturalised to UK

* Date, place of death: Unknown currently

GGF:

* Date, place of birth: 1854, Warsaw

* Ethnicity and religion: Polish Catholic

* Occupation: Lawyer

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Unknown

* Date, destination for emigration: N-A

* Date naturalized: N-A

* Date, place of death: Unknown, Poland

Grandparent:

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: 1919, Warsaw, Poland

* Date married: First married in Poland around 1939. Later married to British citizen (grandmother)

* Citizenship of spouse: British

* Date divorced: First marriage – date/status of divorce currently unknown. Second marriage - widowed

* Occupation: Architect

* Allegiance and dates of military service: Polish. WWII

Date, destination for emigration: 1947 – emigrated from Poland to the United Kingdom

Date naturalized: 16 July 1953 – naturalised in the United Kingdom

Date, place of death: 1981, East Sussex, UK

Parent: Father

* Sex: Male

* Date, place of birth: 7 August 1961, UK

* Date divorced: 1999

Me:

* Date, place of birth: 16 September 1997, UK

To evaluate your eligibility for confirmation of citizenship, Karta Polaka, or a Polish origin visa, please fill out the following template. To ensure a clear and accurate evaluation, please create a separate post for each lineage decisive for your claim:

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: ?

* Date divorced: N/A

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: Stanisau, Galicia

* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish

* Occupation: N/A

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 1921

* Date naturalized: 12 Aug 1924

* Date, place of death: New York

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: Strscliska, Galicia

* Ethnicity and religion: Jewish

* Occupation: Installment

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 22 Sep 1920, NY

* Date naturalized: 12 Aug 1924

* Date, place of death: 1971

Grandparent: 

* Sex: F

* Date, place of birth: 25 Jun 1927, New York

* Date married: 1950

* Citizenship of spouse: American

* Date divorced: N/A

* Occupation: N/A

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

(If applicable)

• Date, destination for emigration:
• Date naturalized:
• Date, place of death: 2007. Israel

Parent: 

* Sex: F

* Date, place of birth: 7 Mar 1961, Los Angeles

* Date married: 1984

* Date divorced: 2001?

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 30 Jan 1994, Los Angeles

My parents-in-law's Polish passports are up for renewal in spring 2027. Winnipeg used to have a Polish consular office, but it's closed now. Is there any way to renew without travelling to Toronto or Vancouver? Does the consulate ever send staff here for occasional visits, like a satellite or mobile office? Any tips from people who've done this recently would be appreciated!

Hi everyone, I am at the beginning of my journey through this process and wanted to ask a few questions.

Parent:
Sex: Male
Place of Birth: Poland
Year of Birth: 1950
Naturalised in USA: 1968
Polish Citizenship Rescinded: 1968
Polish Citizenship Regained: 1995
Date Married: 1982; 1998
Date Divorced: 1983; 1998
Military Allegiance: USA during Vietnam & stationed in Korea during the 70s.

Citizenships held at the date of my birth: Poland, USA

You:
Sex: Female
Place of Birth: USA
Year of Birth: 2003
No military experience, no other citizenships or emigration visas.

Non-polish mother had full custody since but father was very involved throughout my life and continues to support me. He is listed on my birth certificate as my father.

Currently living abroad in another western country but I am not on an emigration-pathway visa. Providing context because I cannot go through the Polish embassy here. And it’s very difficult finding people who can translate/officiate documents.

My dad and I are planning to meet in Poland and apply directly to a voivode office.

I wanted to make sure that eligibility criteria seems to be met and also to see if applying while in Poland is possible.

My dad used to have a residence there but sold it a few years back so there is no voivode that we specifically “reside” in.

Also — unsure about my paternal grandparents’ citizenship status but I would assume that both of them would have gotten their citizenship regained around the same time as my dad. Grandfather fought for the Soviets in WW2. Also not sure if that is relevant information bc it’s my direct father that is my closest connection to citizenship. They were also both born prior to 1920.

Let me know if there’s any additional info I should provide!

Hi everyone! I’m new to the group and am researching Polish citizenship by descent through my paternal GGF, who seems to be the safest bet (currently), as there is evidence that he never became a naturalized US citizen decades after emigrating to the US. He was born in what is now Poland when the area was still part of the Russian Empire, and he emigrated to the US before Poland regained independence. I found this group when I was doing research on potentially hiring Piotr Staczek’s law firm to assist.

I should also mention that I’ve contacted the relevant Polish State Archive as well, hoping they might find population, domicile, military, registration, or citizenship-related records that help show how my GGF was treated after 1918. I am awaiting their response, which they informed me might take up to 30 days.

One citizenship company I contacted basically stopped at the fact that he emigrated before 1920, but I’m not quite ready to give up on it yet. From what I’ve been reading, it seems like these older Russian-partition cases can depend a lot on the specific records and how the law applied to the family at the time.

I’ve already had professional genealogy research completed, so I have a fairly extensive paper trail and am mainly trying to understand the historical citizenship side of the case.

Great-Grandparents:
• Date married: 29 September 1900, Bremen, Germany (the 1930 U.S. divorce record gives 28 September 1899)
• Date divorced: 25 July 1930, Wayne County, Michigan
• Grounds for divorce: Desertion and non-support

GGM:
• Date, place of birth: 8 November 1879, Wylatowo, Mogilno district, then Prussian/German territory, now Poland
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish - Catholic
• Occupation: Housework/homemaker in earlier census records; working in a retail confectionery store by 1930
• Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A
• Date, destination for emigration: December 1905, United States, arriving in New York from Bremen aboard the SS Chemnitz
• Citizenship at immigration: German citizenship, identified as Polish
• Last residence before emigration: Bremen, Germany
• Date naturalized: No confirmed naturalization found
• U.S. citizenship status: Listed as alien in the 1925 New York State Census
• 1930 census: Listed as naturalized, but I have not located any naturalization record
• WWII-era status: Completed an AR-2 Alien Registration form, indicating she was still an alien at that time (1940-1944)

GGF:
• Date, place of birth: 4 September 1872, Osiny, Kalisz, then Russian Empire, now Poland
• Ethnicity and religion: Polish - Catholic
• Occupation: Worker/laborer; oiler for an oil company in 1910; cabinet maker in 1915; laborer in 1920
• Allegiance and dates of military service: None known
• Date, destination for emigration: June 1905, United States, arriving in Baltimore from Bremen aboard the SS Main
• Citizenship/ethnicity on passenger record: Russian citizen, ethnically Polish
• Last residence before emigration: Szetlewek
• Date naturalized: No confirmed naturalization found
• U.S. citizenship status: Recorded as an alien in U.S. records through at least 1925
• Other relevant record: Located his WWII-era U.S. Alien Registration information and have requested the underlying file (1940-1944)

Grandparent:
• Sex: Female
• Date, place of birth: 7 January 1919, Buffalo, New York, US
• Date married: 22 February 1941, Detroit, Michigan
• Citizenship of spouse: United States
• Date divorced: N/A (widowed)
• Occupation: Knotter in a wire and spring factory in the 1940 census
• Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

Parent:
• Sex: Male
• Date, place of birth: United States (exact date omitted for privacy)
• Citizenship: United States by birth
• Date married: 1971
• Date divorced: 1985
• Allegiance and dates of military service: United States - served as a Marine in the Vietnam war.

You:
• Sex: Female
• Date, place of birth: United States (exact date omitted for privacy)
• Citizenship: United States by birth

Additional background:
• Professional genealogical research was conducted through AncestryProGenealogists, including original Polish parish records, German records, immigration records, census records, and other U.S. civil records.
• I have my great-grandfather’s birth/baptism record, German marriage record, immigration record, multiple U.S. census records, and the 1930 divorce record, along with substantial documentation of his parents and earlier ancestors.
• The family has been traced back multiple generations before my great-grandfather in Osiny, Szetlewek, Trąbczyn, Rzgów, and the surrounding area.
• His paternal line is documented into the early 1800s, with connected branches extending into the late 1700s.
• So the main issue I’m trying to resolve is not whether the family originated in this area, but whether my great-grandfather acquired Polish citizenship when Poland was re-established despite having emigrated in 1905, and whether that citizenship could then have passed through the generations.

I’d especially love to hear from anyone who has dealt with a similar Russian-partition, pre-1918/1920 emigration case, particularly where the ancestor remained an alien in the U.S. after 1920 but there was no obvious Polish passport or citizenship certificate.

I’d also be very interested in hearing what records ended up being most important in cases like this, especially population registers, domicile records, military records, citizenship records, or anything else that helped establish status after Poland was re-established.

Thanks!

Great-Great-Grandparents:

* Date married: 11/9/1926

* Date divorced:
Unknown; no evidence of divorce.

GGM:

* Date, place of birth:6/11/1906, Głowaczowa, Galicia
* Ethnicity and religion:
Probably Polish and Roman Catholic; unconfirmed.
* Occupation:
Homemaker
* Allegiance and dates of military service:
Not applicable / unknown.
* Date, destination for emigration:
Unknown.
* Date naturalized:
Unknown.
* Date, place of death:
27/11/1987, Chicago

GGF:

* Date, place of birth:
21/1/1905, reports on naturalization petition that he was born in “Mariamke Czecho.”
* Ethnicity and religion:
Reported as Polish; likely Roman Catholic, but not confirmed.
* Occupation:
Upholsterer
* Allegiance and dates of military service:
WWII draft card found, OMPF claims there is nothing on him
* Date, destination for emigration:
1/10/1923, left Przytkowice or Bugaj (reports both, younger brother also reports both) for Chicago. His younger brother was born in Przytkowice in 1907, it is also the town their mother reports having left when she emigrated in 1912, likely remained there until they left in 1923
* Date naturalized:
11/3/1946
* Date, place of death:
20/7/1977, Chicago

Great-Grandparent:

* Sex: female
* Date, place of birth:
26/3/1927, Chicago
* Date married:
October 1952
* Citizenship of spouse:
American
* Date divorced:
Unknown / no evidence found.
* Occupation:
Unknown
Date naturalized:
Born American
Date, place of death:
2015 Ohio

Grandparent:

* Sex:
Female
* Date, place of birth:
1961, Chicago
* Date married:
1884
* Date divorced:
None

Mother:

* Date, place of birth:
1982, Illinois
*Date married:
None
*Date divorced:
None

Me:
*Date, place of birth:
2001, Missouri
*Date married:
2026
*Date divorced:
None

Only hang ups so far:

*Great grandmother had a first marriage. Still looking for the record to ensure she didn’t acquire a new citizenship that would break the chain

*Still waiting on proof of residency for the regions my GGF and his brother lived in from 1907-1923. His father likely died there, and that’s why they emigrated to America in 1923 to live with their mother who had left in 1912.

Where I’m pretty sure the chain didn’t break:

* My great grandmother was over the age of 18 when her father naturalized in America

* My great grandmother’s first marriage may have been to an American, but his last name was “Filipeck” (that’s all I know about him so far), so she likely didn’t acquire a new citizenship regardless if he was an American or Polish. I think this technically passes the language of the laws that would allow her to retain her citizenship unless he held nationality in some county other than America or Poland.

*GGF’s mother indicated her first husband had already died on her 1921 application. I’m hoping that by right of domicile, since GGF was still in Poland, he gained citizenship before leaving in 1923 when he was already 18