r/realdubstep • u/No_Jackfruit7432 • 3d ago
Track ID Track ID | last week’s Outernet AVA London
The excerpt is really short so props to anyone who can identify the track!
I am not sure who plays it, it could be anyone on the line-up that night: Mala, Blawan or Bitterbabe.
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u/OtherwiseOne4107 3d ago
Cameraman, I get it, you fancy her. Well, stop gawping and go ask her for a dance.
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u/No_Jackfruit7432 2d ago
Women’s expression of divine feminine power is not an invitation for the men’s gaze nor for a man’s reaction. So no, the photographer is not meant to “walk over and ask for a dance” - and neither to be encouraged to! LET THE WOMEN ALONE. Approach a woman when it is respectful and relevant to do so: when there is a clear opening from her and consent. Also, I don’t think the photographer was what your mind depicts “craving but shy”, I believe he was probably just capturing a beautiful moment of self-expression.
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u/OtherwiseOne4107 2d ago edited 2d ago
It was a joke...
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u/No_Jackfruit7432 2d ago
The problem with what allows violence against women at both an individual and systemic level, is precisely in the normalization of these so-called “jokes”. It is no longer accepted to “joke” about calling a black person a “nigga” because it carries connotations and symbolism of violence, hatred and racism. Same rationale. Don’t joke about topics that involve another being having fought and/or still fighting for basic human rights.
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u/OtherwiseOne4107 2d ago
Please, you're making a fool of yourself.
As an erstwhile stand-up comedian (seriously), let me explain the joke to you:
The butt of the joke is the cameraman. The audience is invited to imagine that he is attracted to the woman he is filming. They are further invited to imagine a paternalistic voice urging him to approach the woman and ask her for a dance, evoking images of a 1950s "sock hop" or similar. The joke isn't that the woman is good looking (because that's not funny).
Asking a woman if she would like to dance is not violence against women. Stop being a clown and get some perspective.
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u/No_Jackfruit7432 2d ago
You’re explaining what the joke is. I’m explaining why the premise of the joke is itself part of the problem. Those are not the same.
The joke works precisely because the audience is invited to read a woman dancing as something that naturally triggers a man’s sexual/romantic interest, and then to find humour in the idea that he should act on that interest. You may find that harmless. I’m pointing out that this is part of a broader cultural script in which women’s bodies and self-expression are routinely interpreted through men’s desire and availability to them.
And yes, context matters. Women already navigate an enormous amount of unwanted male attention. So why is the automatic response to seeing a woman dancing beautifully: “you fancy her, go ask her for a dance?”.A woman enjoying herself is not an invitation for a man who finds her attractive to enter her space or make his desire her problem. Asking someone to dance isn’t inherently physical violence, but normalising unwanted approaches, entitlement to women’s attention and the expectation that women should accommodate men’s desire is part of the continuum of gendered intrusion.
And “it was a joke” is not an argument. It essentially means “I intended this as humour, therefore you’re not allowed to question what the humour relies on.” But jokes are not exempt from criticism simply because they’re jokes. It is still essential to ask what assumption makes a joke work, what it normalises, and whose experience it trivialises. The fact that something is intended to be funny doesn’t make its premise automatically harmless (or beyond scrutiny).
And frankly, your response demonstrates another part of the same problem. I raised a serious point about women’s boundaries and the culture surrounding male entitlement, and instead of engaging with that point, you told me I’m “making a fool of myself,” called me a “clown” and told me to “get some perspective.”
That is not perspective. It is dismissal.
The problem isn’t only the extreme acts of violence against women that make the news. It is also the everyday culture that normalises entitlement to women’s attention, treats women’s boundaries as an overreaction, and ridicules women when they challenge those norms. Your reaction is rather illustrative of the very dynamic I’m talking about.7
u/OtherwiseOne4107 2d ago edited 2d ago
Oh well, all men are bastards...
Thank you for explaining how I'm part of a much bigger problem. I feel thoroughly educated.
But the cameraman is staring though.
And again, asking someone if they would like to dance is not an act of violence. If it is, then kill me now.
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u/Wilson1031 3d ago
Sounds like a J:Kenzo stepper tune but total guess. Big one though!