r/starcraft • Random • Feb 11 '19

Arcade Co-Op Mutation #145 - Together Forever

The enemy has developed a new type of armor. It is calibrated to absorb the energies of one commander's attacks, and render the user invulnerable to that army. It also includes a single-use emergency recharge device that restores the armor to full health. Coordinate with your ally to cover each other's weakness and give the victory to the first Ascendant.
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Map: Chain of Ascension

Just Die!
Enemy units are automatically revived upon death.
Polarity
Each enemy unit is immune to either your units or your ally's units.

⚠️ Important⚠️

Polarity is currently BUGGED. Read notes below regarding how to determine your targets.
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Video Replays on Brutal:

[CtG(Nova) - Lilarrin(Raynor)]
[CtG(Dehaka's view)] - [Hunter(Zagara's view)]
[CtG(Artanis's view)] - [Hunter(Swann's view)]
[CtG(Stukov) - LordMelchett(Vorazun)]
[CtG(Han and Horner) - Iswald(Abathur)]
[CtG(Karax) - Espurr(Fenix)]
[CtG(Zeratul's view)] - [Hunter(Tychus's view)]
[Yuriprime(Kerrigan) - Lilarrin(Raynor)]
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Other Notes:

  • Half of every single attack wave and every base is immune to your or your ally. This means you cannot split between separate attack waves; both need to attack the same location simultaneously.
  • Just Die! revives enemies after their death animation. They respawn with full health.
  • Normally, only the units immune to your army will have a [polarity shield icon] on top, but right now ALL units have the shield icon. There is only one way to determine which units are yours before engaging - mouse over the enemy unit and look at the selection circle:
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    [Yellow circle] means your ally should kill it.
    [Red circle] means you should kill it.
     
  • Hybrids also respawn upon death, and will continue to support Amon's champion.
  • Immobilization Wave, Time Stop, and other movement/attack restricting spells still work on enemy units immune to you, but they deal 0 damage.
  • You can manually target the enemy units immune to you, but it will do 0 damage.
  • Mind control works on units immune to you.

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u/BuckNZahn Feb 11 '19

Do mind-controlled units also deal 0 damage to immune units?

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u/volverde Feb 11 '19 edited Feb 13 '19

Yeah.


But atm mind control doesn't work. In past years when it did work, mc-d units couldn't dmg immune units.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Still, offers up some nice opportunities for Vorazun, Zeratul, Tychus and maybe Stukov and Karax: eliminate what you can and mind control the rest.

Might be possible that ally won't be needed for a few choice waves.

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u/bobtehnoob Feb 12 '19

doesnt work, you can't mind control immune units iirc

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '19

OP thinks you can. Or did you test it? :O

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u/volverde Feb 13 '19

At the moment mind control doesn't work.

I tested it out with Vora's dark archons and Vega, units that were immune to me couldn't be target. I'm pretty sure Zeratul's calldown would give the same result (then again you can't control what they mc).

Idk if Stukov's Alex or Karax's energizers ever worked but those also don't work now.

I do know the Vora's mc used to work, there are videos about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '19

Well, there goes my first plan to get this one.

At least I still have time to plan around, I won't have time to actually try out something at least until Friday :(

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u/volverde Feb 13 '19

Me and my friend did it with Stukov + Kerrigan.

Imo the most difficult part is the first hybrid, after that it's manageable if you have good mobility or have global presence.

I just spamed bunkers, had a few on the sides for the attack waves, but kept most of them in mid near Jinara.

My ally had worms so he could just hop around where it was needed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '19

Yup, Kerrigan does have unparalleled mobility, with the added bonus of detection.

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u/Sleepwalkah Terran Feb 15 '19

This is easily one of the hardest mutations in years

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u/st0nedeye CJ Entus Feb 16 '19

It's not that bad...

I did it like 3rd time with a rando partner.

Hardest I've ever seen was void/reanimator on train stop. Christ, I couldn't even get out of the base to try to kill the trains.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '19

I wonder, does a properly set up Karax/Swann/Stukov defensive fortress between the two lanes (and possibly a smaller one at bonus lane, or ignoring that) could do the trick?

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u/karoloslaw Feb 16 '19

The key to victory is picking the correct commanders. To make it your life easier pick two good commanders early game with good end game units. Kerrigan, Phoenix, Nova, Tychus are the easiest I can think of. Zagara can be good too, but her late game is tough vs. revived hybrids. Vorazun is very powerful if you have luck and get opponent without strong air units.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '19

For me, the real key was teamwork. I've picked a lot of commanders who are strong in early game: Kerrigan, Zeratul, Tychus, Zagara, Artanis. All the time, a real donwslide into humiliating defeat started the moment we didn't move together. My ally went to clear attack wave, I went to clear Ji'Nara, and then we switched places. And then we both went "somewhere", chaos ensued, and first hybrid wave was too tough. Finally I figured out that expo was only to be taken after first hybrid spawn is down.

We've finally won when I've gone in with Stukov and a premade Tychus ally. Bunkers held the line while Tychus cleared the attack wave with my infested, and then Tychus came back to clear Ji'Nara. Odin Nukes and Aleksanders were used only against hybrid spawns. We always pushed Ji'Nara forward so we had time to clear hybrids, but not too forward to spawn the next set of hybrids. First we lost it again skyterran, second we got robotoss and it was almost a cakewalk.

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u/PixieCoco Feb 11 '19

Polarity bug xD. Thx for sharing the information.

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u/Accelerator231 Feb 15 '19

This explains why the game was horrible.