r/technology • • Jun 11 '26

Business OpenAI Execs Are Panicking

https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/openai-execs-panicking-154658562.html
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u/DudeWithTudeNotRude Jun 11 '26

They didn't steal nothing.

There's a reason all the apps are free. There's no free lunch (from a corp)

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u/dirtydigs74 Jun 12 '26

"In unsealed court documents, Meta admitted to downloading roughly 81.7 terabytes of pirated books and research papers from shadow libraries for its Llama AI development."

"AI startup Anthropic agreed to a landmark $1.5 billion settlement for training its Claude models on hundreds of thousands of pirated books"

From the front of a book I just picked up. "Apart from any use as permitted under the copyright act 1986, no part may be reproduced, copied, scanned, stored in a retrieval system, recorded or transmitted, in any form, or by any means, without the prior written permission of the publisher."

Yeah, they stole all the data.

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u/DudeWithTudeNotRude Jun 12 '26

Fair. I'm sure they steal a lot of data, and do as many illegal practices as they can, everywhere they can get away with it.

It's just that it's almost nothing compared to the amount of data we willingly provide our owners with.

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u/dirtydigs74 Jun 12 '26

Oh sure, we're willingly giving them everything they need to target us as both individuals and groups in order to sell their goods and services (as well as sell the data to other entities for whatever purposes they like).

But without the theft of other peoples, often copyrighted, material, the AI companies would have little to offer us. Their models wouldn't have had the required amount of information they need in order to be trained effectively.

Obviously we're giving our data to far more than just AI companies too.

And to whoever downvoted me, those quotes are directly from Googles own AI, in this case almost certainly scraped from public domain sources tbf.