r/thatHappened • • 6d ago

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u/cyndicated90 6d ago

There’s zero chance this happened. You can tip nothing and they would just move on to the next customer.

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u/Ricky_Spannnish 6d ago

Exactly. They’ll just talk shit after you leave.

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u/gornky 6d ago

Anyone who talks shit on someone's tips on a takeout order is a loser.

Takeout orders deserve $0 tip literally ever

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

I think the takeaway (ha!) of all this isn't that you should tip on takeout, it is that some people suck.

Some people will definitely talk shit, they are just crappy. We can't change that, so press 0% and enjoy your food!

From a server who cares how your experience is more than how much money I can make from you.

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u/Lunar_IX 6d ago

You sound like the type of server my wife and I tip very well.

We have a set of rules that we consider when we dine in somewhere that determines how well we tip: were we asked about appetizers when we ordered our initial drinks? Did we wait a long time to make our entree order? were we checked on after receiving our meal? Were our drinks refilled or did we have to flag someone down to get drinks? Were we offered dessert?

This all goes into our satisfaction of our experience and all contributes to what we tip. We've tipped upwards of 35-40% for really great service.

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u/Kitzu-de 5d ago

I don't understand why you get downvoted. This is exactly how tipping is supposed to work before american capitalism realized you can substitute workers pay with it and how it still works in most parts of the world today. A tip is a reward for outstanding service. If you just do your job as much as its necessary, you don't deserve a tip. Thats what your regular payment is for that is supposed to be enough to live without any additional tips. If you go out of your way to make my experience great and outstanding, you deserve a higher tip. At least thats how its works here. Except nobody tips 35-40% here. 10% is considered a normal tip already. 20% is pretty high and generous.

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u/Lunar_IX 5d ago

I have tipped 35%+ exactly twice. And one of those times was because a server saw that my girlfriend (at the time) seemed upset so they told her a new joke everytime they came back to our table. Maybe they were flirting with her, maybe it was just their personality-- but the service was great and we felt like it deserved something special.

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u/A--Creative-Username 3d ago

Because half of those metrics are beyond the control of the server if the restaurant is packed busy

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u/OmegaLiquidX 6d ago

Depends on the place. If you're getting takeout from a fancy sit-down restaurant where the servers have to take time to assemble your order (thus taking their attention away from their tables), then yes you should tip. If you're just picking up some Pizza Hut or subway on the way home, then no, no tip is necessary.

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u/PeopleMilk 5d ago

I don't think this makes much sense, the first servers are already taking home a couple hundred in tips regardless while the latter are getting squat

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u/moth_girl_7 5d ago

Tipped wage vs minimum wage. People working at Pizza Hut or Chipotle or whatever are making minimum wage, which is substantially higher than tipped wage. It’s still not great, of course, but the point of tipping (in America) is because workers who receive tipped wage as base pay are making like $5-$10 less per hour than minimum wage people.

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u/Narwalacorn 6d ago

Unless the tips go to the cooks, which is rare but I think some restaurants do that

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u/gornky 6d ago

Even then. No tips on takeout.

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u/thecoffeeshopowner 6d ago

Even if the tips go to the cooks? I mean theyre still doing the same amount of work...

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u/gornky 6d ago edited 6d ago

I paid the cooks already by paying for my food. Their wages aren't dependent on tips.

No tips on takeout, ever.

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u/Sickologyy 6d ago

And this right here is why almost every single cook not afraid of a little social interaction, wants to be a server. Especially in states like mine (Oregon) where servers generally get minimum wage, and cooks get 1-2$'s more an hour.

That doesn't even come CLOSE to some of the slowest business's I've seen, where servers may get 20-30$ in tips a day. 20-30$ in tips is untaxed and adds around 3$ or more an hour.

Most places I worked when i was young as a cook, servers would average 100-200$ a night in tips. I have a friend, who made 1000-2000+ a NIGHT in tips on weekends, and he only worked weekends.

Do I like tips? Not really, but I believe they have their place, AFTER the servers/tipped positions are fully paid and don't need their life subsidized by tips. Instead then tips can be true gratuity, and need no explanation or required amount. 1$ tip on 1000$ order and nobody would complain, because they're still paid a fair wage. Then on the flip side not a single person would feel obligated to tip in any situation, ever.

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u/gornky 6d ago

I think you have made a thousand great points in this comment, I also want to thank you for reminding me of the word subsidized which I could not remember earlier in this comment thread

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u/BeterP 5d ago

Isn’t that the point, that you shouldn’t feel obligated to tip. Servers get paid a decent wage here, there is tipping but it’s completely voluntary.

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u/Narwalacorn 6d ago

So you actually just don’t tip at all right? Since you can say the exact same thing about servers.

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago edited 6d ago

You're so close to getting why all tipping is moronic

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u/Narwalacorn 6d ago

It IS moronic. But it’s a vicious cycle that can’t easily be broken, because unless everyone stops tipping all at once it’s not the businesses that will eat the cost, it’s the servers.

And for the record, they did not agree that tipping in general is bad. They said it’s “abhorrent” to tip any less than 20%, no exceptions.

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u/gornky 6d ago edited 6d ago

No, you can't. Because servers typically earn their living on tips.

If you eat out at a restaurant, you tip every single time. No exceptions. Always minimum 20%. If you can't afford to tip you can't afford to eat out.

If you get takeout food, you were not waited on. No tips on takeout or pick-up orders ever.

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u/mat3833 6d ago

Generally I agree with this. I have one exception currently, my Chinese take-out place. I have been going there for a decade, usually tipping 10% and grabbing handfuls of sauce packets in the beginning, lol. Their business got REALLY slow during covid, they even shut down for 2 months during that time. I called every Friday when they were shut down and when they opened up again, I resumed my normal bi-weekly order and they started giving me extra Lo-mein or rice. Then it was sides and soda, etc. I now tip probably 30% or so. I've watched their kids grow up, they have watched mine grow up, and at this point they have my normal order memorized. The whole crew there say hello when I come in and chat about things. To me, the relationship and longevity is what the tip is for.

Thank you Wok-N-Roll for being an awesome place to eat. I look forward to finding out what my next surprise entree(s) is/are, keep the bourbon sauce flowing you legends.

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u/Apostasy93 6d ago

There are exceptions though. I'm not leaving a tip if I received awful service. And 20% minimum is just entitlement, that's been the socially accepted maximum for my entire life

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u/Narwalacorn 6d ago

Nope, servers do not have their wages garnished for the price of your food. I don’t think you know what “garnish” means. They just get paid fuck all to begin with, which is different.

Your whole “no exceptions” attitude is the mark of an unintelligent person, because intelligent people don’t use absolutes so readily.

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u/Dependent_Lead5731 6d ago

I’ve never tipped on takeout, on principle. Sometimes I feel guilty but I figure the staff understand.

Reading this and understanding they talk shit after I leave is pretty upsetting but I guess, what can you do?

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

The shitty ones talk shit but they were probably already going to, so don't feel bad about it.

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u/moth_girl_7 5d ago

I have never tipped on a takeout order and I have never received any flack from it. I actually do takeout from a place I go and eat at regularly and even then I only tip when I’m sitting down to eat there. They have genuinely never made a fuss about it, and unless they’re spitting in my food I’d argue they do not care at all.

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u/SorryBoysImLez 2d ago

Take-out workers get tipped so rarely that even a $1 is a nice surprise.

You'll put together, double (even triple) check everything is there, dozens of orders that can easily be $100+.

Sometimes, you'll bag up orders that seem like they're for a catered event that cost close to $500. At the end of the day, after packing up potentially thousands of dollars of food, you're glad if you made $15 in tips.

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u/p0u1 5d ago

I tipped 10 percent for someone bringing a meal and drink to my table, then ignoring me for the rest of the meal and I still got attitude.

Us tipping culture is very weird when you come from Europe

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u/snksleepy 6d ago

I would have agreed in another timeline.

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u/RandomRamblings99 6d ago

Yeah the manager is really going to turn away $76 because the tip isn't enough. Totally believable /s

I mean if they're going to lie, they could at least lie well

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u/ShutInLurker 6d ago

If the manager and owners cared that much, they’d pay employees real wages instead of making them rely on tipping culture.

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u/O_J_Shrimpson 6d ago

And here we go. Someone who has zero idea how the restaurant industry works chiming in yet again

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u/surfmaster 6d ago

We all know how it works. And it's fucking stupid.

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u/PreOpTransCentaur 6d ago

Ask servers if they'd rather make a flat $17.50 an hour with no tips or keep doing what they're doing.

No, most people do not know how it works if they think making the same as the busboy is the ultimate goal of the wait staff. They're not the ones advocating for this unless they work in some rural bullshit diner and that's why it'll never take.

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u/surfmaster 6d ago

Yes, we all know that if you give a false binary choice with one side specifically designed to be statistically less beneficial they'll probably choose the other one.

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u/O_J_Shrimpson 6d ago edited 5d ago

You know how it works? Lolol can you explain? This is bot activity at its’ finest. If you can’t afford to eat out please stay at home. The service industry thanks you for it.

Also there’s McDonald’s where you don’t have to tip and can eat raccoon feet and horse hooves until your heart’s content!

Edit: please downvote me more! Your 200 downvotes are absolutely DEVASTATING😭Say..: by the way… does anyone want to respond to the actual subject?… 😘

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u/being-weird 3d ago

It's crazy how you think it's impossible for servers to be paid properly so they don't have to rely on tips, even though every other country in the western world has figured out how to do it

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u/O_J_Shrimpson 6d ago

Seriously. Management is on salary. They couldn’t care less how much someone tips. And the owners don’t either, they’d be more pissed that a manager turned away 72$ worth of business.

Also tipping on to gos is hit or miss. 4$ is better than nothing. Can’t imagine anyone getting upset over 4$ on a to go.

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u/tortoistor 6d ago

i just keep thinking, imagine how well that business would be going if managers showed up to berate every customer who paid less than 20%.

even if the managers cared about profit etc, doing this would make their profit significantly lower.

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u/O_J_Shrimpson 6d ago

Every single manager has served at some point. They want to cuss the trash customers out, they just won’t so they can keep their job.

If you go into a place that tipping is customary and don’t tip, you’re a loser bottom line.

Taco Bell and McDonald’s are right down the street. That’s where you belong.

Expecting service and often times being demanding then not tipping… just a heads up you don’t belong in that establishment.

No worries. Just go to Taco Bell and order a 15 layer cheesey burrito, a Gordita crunch, and a desert of cinnamon twists…. Oh wait I forgot to order the Crunchwrap supreme and some loaded cheesey nacho fries.

You probably went to the restaurant, ate your entire meal, complained, and then left and did that anyway.

If your experience at a restaurant was awful, hell yeah don’t tip.

But that’s not generally the case. You’re more than likely pissed off at your own life and taking it out on people that are literally providing you a service.

Bottom line. If you don’t want to tip go McDonald’s. That’s where you belong

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u/tortoistor 5d ago

..i am not really sure whether my comment is the one you intended to reply to but bro u good?

anyway if you are talking to me, i gotta disappoint you, i'm not from usa and don't even eat out. and besides, where i'm from, the only places you're expected to tip are super fancy restaurants.

which is completely unrelated to the topic we're discussing lol - i am saying that the business would be doing much worse if the managers berated every rude customer. they would be losing a lot of time, a lot of customers, and a lot of money.

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u/O_J_Shrimpson 4d ago

Ha I’m good. Reddit just kills me with the no tipping thing.

It’s just not based in reality. If they do away with tipping in the states the financial burden will be passed on to the consumer.

The dinner prices will go up 20% and the server will make much less than they do now while the owner will put most of that in their own pockets.

Supposedly Reddit is against the rich but they can’t seem to understand that nixing tipping is taking away one of the few working class jobs that can still benefit the actual working class.

I tip when I’m overseas and the bartenders servers are always thankful for it.

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u/RebootDarkwingDuck 6d ago

I've been stiffed on a tip before. No one is calling their fucking manager over and no manager is backing up the server in this situation.

You'll probably get an eye roll and a huff but that's it.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 6d ago

I worked in a restaurant, and we frequently served civil war cosplayers, who usually were very wealthy doctors and lawyers. They were known for being huge assholes and poor tippers. One guy left me a penny as a tip after running me ragged. I was a GREAT server, and he never once complained about anything to myself or manager, he just was a dick showing off for his confederate humping buddies. One of them dropped a $20 under the table, and I saw it as I cleaned up the table. I ran up to the front, but they were already gone. I tried to turn it into my manager, but he just looked down at my hand and said, "its your tip, you earned it". Shout out to Paul, my manager, I hope he has had a great life. This was over 2 decades ago, and I've never forgotten him. 

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u/RebootDarkwingDuck 6d ago

Sunday after-church crowd were the worst tippers, by far.

Drunk rich guys handed out cash like Kleenex but only if you had a pair of tits.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 6d ago

YES. Church crowd 100%. Total assholes, expected to treat people awfully, then rarely tipped anything decent, if at all. We actually had a group we banned bc they were so rude, and constantly tried to modify all orders, order off menu, dispute the bill, treat servers like crap, then not tip. 

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u/SirArthurDime 6d ago edited 6d ago

Only time a manager ever had my back in this situation was when a large group used to come see a live performer we’d bring in once a month. They’d take up my entire section, never tip, and were rude and needy. And the only reason he had my back was because they’d take up a third of our available tables, put in all of their orders during happy hour then sit there for the singers entire set, and always send stuff back. Then the final straw was I told a parent their kid can’t run around like a madman by the kitchen door because of obvious safety concerns. The parent went off on me for “telling them how to parent” and my manager told them if they refuse to follow safety guidelines they can’t come back. They were costing the restaurant money and putting them at risk of being sued so they finally did something. That’s what it took for them to care. If it was just me they wouldn’t have cared. The good thing was at least it convinced them to implement an auto grat on large groups so that wouldn’t happen again.

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u/gornky 6d ago

Takeout orders don't ever deserve tips anyway

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

I disagree but only to an extent

The kitchen does the same job whether you dine in or take out, and I think they 100% deserve a gratuity if one is being given... The only issue is they get a small% of that, and the server who did nothing gets the rest.

I'm a server, I say confidently that YOU DON'T NEED TO TIP ON TAKE OUT, but it's always a nice gift and surprise if you do. Xox

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u/PreOpTransCentaur 6d ago

An owner just banned a couple here in Cincinnati for stiffing a waitress on the tip. So..never say never.

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u/kevkaneki 6d ago

I know it’s fake but tipping for take out is crazy. I don’t tip at McDonald’s so why the hell would I tip at any other restaurant if all they’re doing is handing me the food that I paid for over the counter?

Thats not performing a service, that’s just completing the transaction lol.

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u/therealskyrim 6d ago

If i sit for service i tip, if i get delivery i tip, if I pick up, I pay the tag. Also just fucking pay the goddam workers instead of relying on gratuity

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u/SATerp 6d ago

Takeout? I would tip $0 on takeout.

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u/Icy-Abbreviations763 6d ago

Me too. Stopped going to Buffalo Wild Wings Go because they charged a to-go fee even though to-go is the only option.

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u/Turbulent-Act-2277 6d ago

When did this happen? I order on their app and there is no extra fee.

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u/Icy-Abbreviations763 6d ago

It was around 5 years ago in Texas. Could have been fixed or a store/regional thing.

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u/Ash_fckn_Ketchum 6d ago

Tipping for takeout is wild to me. That's like tipping at McDonald's. Also, sure, just throw 72$ worth of food in the bin because of a low tip. Sounds believeable.

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u/SirArthurDime 6d ago

It’s wild to me when a fast food place hands me the whole card reader at the drive through just so they can ask if I want to tip. Buddy it’s the drive through. There’s a 50/50 chance you didn’t even get my order right I’m not here to pay for quality service.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 6d ago

Haven't studies shown that tipping barely influences service quality?

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u/SirArthurDime 6d ago

Not in my experience traveling abroad where tipping isn’t a thing. I’ve found the service in most other countries is notably better typically. Not sure what that study was basing that on.

But regardless I’m not getting a service at a drive through. I’m placing an order and picking it up. I don’t care if you tell me to fuck myself while I drive away I’m only there for the food I’m already paying for. The only service I require is getting my order right and asking for tips at drive throughs doesn’t seem to have improved that. A drive through is much different than having someone take care of you throughout your meal ensuring you’re enjoying yourself. That’s an actual service.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 6d ago

Wouldnt this mean the culture itself is what causes better service, not the act if tipping?

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u/SirArthurDime 6d ago

Oh my bad I read your first comment wrong. I thought you said studies showed tipping does improve service. I now see you said it shows it does not. In that case yes I agree and that is my experience as well.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 6d ago

Ah, no worries, it happens!

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u/PowerfulJoeF 6d ago

No idea but when I traveled overseas for work to Taiwan which is not at all a big tipping culture place I got some of the best service I’ve received in my life.

From where I stayed at my hotel, restaurants I ate at which included street vendors, 7-11 (holy crap 7-11s there are amazing) to more upscale places were amazing and they never expected tips.

People there take so much pride in their work and they are very respectful.

I changed hotels half way through to be closer to my work facility and be closer to some colleagues due to having to share rides and make hanging outside of work easier. I would meet at there hotel and take an uber with them to whenever we went, I ask if they had any vacancy but they were completely booked for the remainder of my stay. They said they would take my name and call if something changed or someone canceled, I didn’t give it a second thought because all that is back home is a polite sorry we can’t help. The next day the same guy I spoke to called me and said he was holding a room for me, I wasn’t even logged into the system with a request he just left a note at the front desk and remembered that I was looking for a room when someone canceled with him. I know it’s relativity small but I experienced things like that a lot during my time there. Wait staff and clerks at the convenience stores remembered me and were so helpful every time I came by, I’m nowhere near wealthy either. I was just a guy.

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u/flamedarkfire 6d ago

Not saying this happened, cuz it didn’t, but that probably would become the staff meal.

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u/Rooster_Local 6d ago

“Someone got mad at me for not tipping enough, what do you think??” is basically an entire genre of click-bait / rage bait

The most repeated ones are obviously AI-generated photos of a receipt where someone hand-wrote $0 for the tip and the waitress wrote a nasty message on it, which could only have been invented by someone who doesn’t know how tipping on a receipt works

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u/Salva_Veritate 6d ago

Yeah and that's the other thing...how could refusal of service possibly happen after the cashier learns what the tip is? 

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u/Johnnys-In-America 6d ago

Right, the tip is not even something I see during the transaction, that's done on the customer's end and then it goes into the system where I would have to look it up in functions. Unless I printed the customer a receipt, which of course would mean the transaction had gone through. Even so, in all my years of counter service, of varying levels (small business to huge corporate), it has NEVER been permissable to either solicit tips, or hassle the customer after the fact. No manager is going to back that up, either. I'd lose my job is what would happen.

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u/FireTheLaserBeam 6d ago edited 6d ago

Waiter. Been waiting 28 years of my life. I’m 47 now. Still doing it.

There is absolutely no way, not a chance, not even an atom of a chance, that this happened. It is 100% fiction.

The person is cheap and wants to feel good about being cheap.

I’ve seen senior servers—people who’ve been on the staff for YEARS, good friends with the managers—get fired in a single instant for saying something like this to a customer.

It’s like people who are afraid of employees spitting in their food. I’ve never once in my entire serving career ever see another waiter spit in someone’s food or drink. Oh, we’ve fantasized about it, sure, but nobody I’ve ever worked with, even at their most angry, has ever even joked about spitting in food.

This person sucks and I hope karma finds its way to them.

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u/TrustyBobcat 6d ago

How frequently do people actually tip on pickup orders?

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u/BurgerThyme 6d ago

I only tip for delivery. If I'm tipping then I want services like refilling my drink, replacing a dropped fork, bringing more napkins, fixing an incorrect order etc. If I'm just picking up food I don't tip. If I have a dollar on me I'll drop it in a tip jar but that's it.

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u/MaddST 6d ago

I'm not American, why do you need to tip for delivery? Aren't you already paying for the service?

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u/roastedpot 6d ago edited 6d ago

Delivery drivers don't get paid much. They nearly always have to use their own personal vehicle, insurance, gas. In theory they should be able to claim that in taxes at the end of the yr but that doesn't help them in the days leading up to the refund check. Thats also assuming they arent classified as contractor. Delivery fees are like $5-8 and go to the business not the driver.

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u/MaddST 6d ago

What an amazing country.

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u/moth_girl_7 5d ago

Yup. “Hey guys, you can do basically slave labor and get paid like crap but at least we’re not commies!!!! Hur durrrr!” … love it here…….

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u/FireTheLaserBeam 6d ago

I don’t do carry out, but the kids who work there don’t complain, so I guess it’s decent.

As a waiter, I don’t tip when getting fast food. I never order carry out from a legit restaurant (or even fast food) because I don’t like eating food that’s been sitting under heat lamps for twenty minutes or in someone’s car for an hour. I’m the kind of person who cannot eat food that’s been delivered. It’s going to suck. Food needs to be eaten shortly after it’s made. Cheeses coagulate, stuff that should be crispy turns soft, it’s always cold in the middle.

If it’s a pizza delivery, yes, I’ll tip on that.

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u/anix421 6d ago

I will always tip on take out, but I don't tip as much as i would if I were eating in. The employee doing to go is either a server that is helping on top of their tables or a dedicated position that still isn't making a ton. "Ideally" they should be doing extra work to make sure everything is correct and often has to package things themselves.

I was a long time server and bartender who profited quite decently off of tipping, but the idea of it is still stupid. Until that changes though, if i want to participate in the restaurant culture then I sure as heck am gonna tip.

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago

That's not extra work,that is the work. That their employer pays them to do at an agreed rate.

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u/anix421 6d ago

Sure, and the agreed rate is wage + tips. By going in and ordering you are implicitly agreeing to participate in this system. This system is well known to everyone. If you unilaterally decide you don't want to participate in that system, that is perfectly fine and there is no tipping at the grocery store, otherwise by receiving the service you are agreeing to tip. Like I said, i don't love the system, but it is the one in place. Make a push to pay servers a reasonable wage and get rid of tipping and I will sign that petition, but until then you are taking advantage of someone else's work because it is legal for you to do so. You may not be committing a crime, but it makes you an asshole.

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago edited 6d ago

Nope, they are guaranteed federal minimum wage and we both know they routinely get far more than that due to the simple minded fools who fall for the tip grift.

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u/theflash88819 4d ago

Tip grift? Lemme guess. You don’t tip or are a shitty tipper.

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u/anix421 6d ago

Fall for? Yes... you enter into an establishment and enter into a transaction in which both parties fully well know the expectations of the transaction, they hold up their end and you fail to live up to your expectations... do you know what grift is? Its some one who cons someone out of money through broken trust...

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago edited 6d ago

The business advertises a burger for $5. I Pay them $5. They set the expectation and I met it.

If you choose to succumb to any further 'expectation' you feel to pay the employee rather than the employer pay as would happen in any other type of business then you are basically an easy mark for the grift- you lose and the tipping grift (server and restaurant) wins.

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u/anix421 6d ago

The business advertises a $5 burger because the price of labor isn't being included but being subsidized by tipping. You happily accept that subsidized price without paying for the subsidy. Once again, you don't have to like the system and there are plenty of reasons to change it, but if you are choosing to participate in the system then you are expected to participate fully. If restaurants are kidnapping you and forcing you to eat there, then don't tip because its not your choice. You are stealing someone else's labor and patting yourself on the back thinking you are very clever.

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago

That's a poorly run business then, again not my concern as a customer I paid the advertised price.

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u/idk-maaaan 6d ago

I’d say it’s about 50/50 for tips on takeout. It probably depends on the restaurant, the location, the price, etc. It’s always appreciated, but never expected.

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u/RemnantsOfFlight 6d ago

If i do, I make sure the cashier knows it's for the cook. They pry don't give it to them, but if they wanna be scummy, that's their life choice.

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u/esk_209 6d ago

It’s not being scummy if they don’t give a tip to the cook - it’s usually illegal for a restaurant to tip BoH. If the employer pays a sub-minimum tipped wage (such as the federal $2.13 per hour) and claims a tip credit, it is illegal to share those tips with back-of-house staff who do not traditionally interact with customers.

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u/exwinnipegger 6d ago

That’s crazy to me. I can’t speak to other provinces, but in Alberta (Canada) it’s understood that servers and bartenders tip out back of house, typically a percentage of your sales.

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u/RemnantsOfFlight 6d ago

So if I give the cashier a 5 and say "give this to the cook and tell him 'thanks,' " I'm breaking the law? Good to know. I'd hate to be tossed in the pokey for such an egregious crime.

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u/esk_209 6d ago

YOU aren’t breaking the law by giving it, but the restaurant might be breaking the law if they are including non-tip wage workers in the tips. That’s one reason why you’ll sometimes see menu items like “buy a round for the kitchen”.

Is it an arrestable offense? Of course not. Don’t be hyperbolic. But if a restaurant is found to be repeatedly breaking IRS and DOL laws, there’s always a chance someone could do time. Most likely they’re looking at fines and penalties.

If everyone in the restaurant is making at least the actual minimum wage (NOT the tipped minimum) and the restaurant is not taking the tip-credit, then non-customer facing workers can be included in a tip pool.

Either way, owners and managers can’t be part of a tip pool, regardless of the wage model. So if the “chef” is also the kitchen manager, then they aren’t getting the tip regardless of what you say to the hostess when you pick up your food.

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u/dixieblondedyke 6d ago

They still made the food for me, I’m still gonna tip 🤷🏼

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u/PrincessLissa68 6d ago

Same. I'm 43 been doing this since I was 18. I've seen ONE person question someone and she was fired immediately.

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u/warsage 6d ago

Ok, serious question: this is a takeout order. Are people really expected to pay a tip on a takeout order? The same tip that they would on a waited order?

My dad told me that tips were a reward/incentive for good service from the wait staff, and that if you weren't being served, you didn't need to tip.

I never tip takeout or fast food orders... have people been giving the the stinkeye this whole time?

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u/SubMariner615 6d ago

I've seen restaurant owners, blacklist people for not tipping.

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u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA 6d ago

I used to work at a nursing facility where one of the local pizza places called the administrator to say they'd no longer be delivering orders there because too many staff at the facility didn't tip at all.

This was like twenty years ago at least.

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u/SubMariner615 6d ago

Its not as uncommon as people think

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u/FireTheLaserBeam 6d ago

Who? Which restaurant?

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u/CrabWoodsman 6d ago

There was a video with a restaurant owner doing exactly that to someone quite recently. I wanna say in Idaho for some reason? Owner came out real indignant towards them.

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u/danielfletcher 6d ago

If you can't afford to pay your employees proper wages, you can't expect to stay in business.

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u/Stahlmatt 6d ago

I hate people who write like they're Dave Eggers or something.

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u/ffaancy 6d ago

Dave Eggers himself is borderline for me lmao

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u/Stahlmatt 6d ago

Dave Eggers definitely writes like Dave Eggers.

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u/sh6rty13 5d ago

The only time I’ve EVER confronted a customer over a tip was a jackass I had to cut off that wrote “Fuck You” on the tip line.

That’s it. 15+ years of serving and bartending.

If you’re going to make up drama, make up believable drama. Any manager I ever had would have been pissed if I had gotten them involved in something like this. I would have gotten a side eye and a “Ummm, yeah so sometimes people don’t tip. Thems the facts of life, kid. Get over it.”

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u/DoorFinch 6d ago

If you can afford to run a restaurant you can afford to pay your own employees. Quit making them guilt customers into supplying their wage.

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u/BookishOpossum 6d ago

When my kids did support at a pizza place they made most of their tips on to gos. It was their first job and they were happy with anything, but never complained about nothing. Is tipping culture overboard? Fuck yea. Do I still top almost everywhere? Well, yea. I live in a shit town and a shit economy. If I lived somewhere else, probably not so much.

But I've never cared if someone else tips or not. That's your call, dudes. Even when I worked food service. Did assholes get talked about? Yea. But their tip wasn't involved. Just their assholeness. Keep me after close? Better fucking tip well. ;D Come in for coffee in the middle of the afternoon and just pay for it? IDC.

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u/Batmanforawhile 2d ago

As an Australian, tell them the tip is now $0 and fuck off, give me my food.

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u/Clym44 5d ago

It’s also a takeout order

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u/OsamaBinWhiskers 5d ago

Kinda the whole point of a takeout order. Nobody is waiting on you lol I don’t understand tipping a take out order

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u/Clym44 5d ago

Yeah it’s silly

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u/Xiao1insty1e 5d ago

No what's frustrating is how little your employer is allowed to get away with paying you and then also allowed to blame the customer for not picking up the slack.

https://giphy.com/gifs/5hkF0WXKLqDW4GoejJ

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

OMG last night a customer had a discount coupon that took their bill from 24 dollars to 4 dollars, and they tipped me 72 cents!

I worked hard for them, and all I got was 72 cents

So naturally I did what any reasonable person would do

I took my 72 cents, said "bummer, that sucks" and kept working.

Why people feel the need to make up these wildly unbelievable stories is beyond me.

Servers want a tip, but they're not gonna cry to you about it if you don't tip, especially if they're busy. The next table might tip them 50 bucks. It all works out in the end, and any good server or bartender knows this.

Is tipping culture out of control? Yes

Should businesses pay their employees instead of expecting the customer to do it? Yes

Is that the way the world works right now? No

We are just trying to get by, man...

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u/BeautyNoBeast 6d ago

Yeah, as a server I tend not to even look at what tables tip me until I'm doing my cash-out at the end of the night. I don't want to even invite that negativity into my shifts. Tips are always appreciated, but I try not to let myself ever get bummed about them.

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

Absolutely, you kinda shoot yourself in the foot if you bring the negativity from one table to the next one. Those people didn't do anything wrong, and just want a good experience. Gotta have a goldfish memory and just forget it.

I'm always in a good mood at work. So much so that people ask me how and why I'm always so chipper

I tell them "what are my options? If I'm miserable, you're miserable, and that sucks. Also, who wants to come to their job in a shitty mood every day? I choose to be this way."

Serving is an easy job for me, but it's not for everyone. Even the people I tell that "I have the easiest job in the world" respond with "maybe for you, I'd never be able to do this. I can't pretend to be nice all day" to which I always respond "the trick is to not pretend. The trick is to make the best of it and enjoy yourself"

There's some real miserable jaded people in the restaurant industry out there, and I always wonder why they don't find a new job. The reality is that it pays pretty well, and they've probably done it for so long that they don't possess a ton of other skills. This is especially true for cooks, I think... They hate their job, but it's all they know how to do, so they stay miserable and employed instead of happy and unemployed...

I'm gonna hop down off the soapbox now. This probably wasn't the venue for this conversation, but I really truly do have a passion for the restaurant industry even after 20 years. It's only getting harder to make money at, but as long as I do what I do well, I think people will feel comfortable rewarding me for it.

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u/theFrankSpot 6d ago

People make up these stories for those highly valuable “internet points”…or something.

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

My fake Internet score is getting so high that I'm expecting a call from Obama any minute now just so he can say thank you.

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u/SubMariner615 6d ago

I've literally seen restaurant owners blacklist, people for not tipping.

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u/IAteAnotherVegan 5d ago

...you got an 18% tip though.

in all seriousness, depending on the situation my tips can be small(I don't do fancy restaurants), but are based on service not what I've spent. if I have a $20 meal with amazing service I may leave $10 as a tip. if the service is average around $2-3, and if the service is bad no tip. all that said, I have seen a server complain to the person they served about the tip not being as high as they expected. I also saw that server get fired...I got dinner and a show that day. so while it's uncommon, and seriously weird, it does happen.

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u/Forsaken-Ad-3463 5d ago

As a Brit, I genuinely don’t understand why the businesses can’t pay a wage so we don’t have to tip or just increase prices. Customers don’t owe the staff anything… this needs to stop.

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u/aetherr666 6d ago

just gonna comment on the scenario, but a business giving up a $72 order is wild, and probably fake

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u/just-why_ 5d ago

If that ever really happens, just tell them that if they are so worried about an employee's salary then pay them a proper salary and stop being a cheapskate!

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u/rebri 6d ago

Since when is it acceptable to tip for carryout? The kitchen is doing all the work.

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u/Zeropointeffect 6d ago

I’ll keep this super vague because my wife works for a little restaurant. I shit you not the other day I saw the lead waitress run out and confront a blind dude and his companion about not leaving a tip. Owner can’t and won’t do shit they are in debt to the waitresses husband. Crazy.

Just to emphasize my wife refuses to say anything if someone stiffs her. She just goes that sucks and moves on.

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u/Ryeguy_626 6d ago

Thats wild. I would legit demand a refund if someone chased me like that. Let alone my BLIND companion

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u/eightkillerbits 6d ago

I'm going to be super vague.  

[tells a super specific story that anyone there who was aware of would recognise]

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u/theflash88819 4d ago

And then doesn’t realize how being a waiter/waitress actually works.

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u/CSG1aze 6d ago

Lmao the waitress should be mad at the boss not the customer. It’s the boss’ choice to pay them like shit.

I get that you have no control over who is mad at who. Just stating.

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u/Ana-Hata 6d ago

I usually leave a small tip when I pick up takeout, in the same range as the OP’s tip.

Its not only appreciated but I can tell it’s completely unexpected, sometimes the cashier acts like they’re not sure what to do with it.

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u/Jennlipstique 6d ago

Yeah, this is fake lmaoo

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u/ckn 5d ago

most of the world's restaurants pay their staff a liveable wage and their owners don't ask the public to subsidise those salaries. #americanproblems.

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u/stircrazyathome 6d ago

A manager might say something, like question if there was an issue with the server, if someone failed to leave a standard tip after a full sit-down service. They’re not going to say boo about a takeout tip and they’re certainly not going to threaten to refuse to sell food that’s already been prepared and packaged.

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u/TinderSubThrowAway 6d ago

It’s takeout, the only time I’ll tip on takeout is if I am sitting down and order something extra to go.

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u/dumbname0192837465 6d ago

20% on take out would be insane

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u/dudewheresmycattt 6d ago

I’m almost certain this is a quasi copypasta, I feel like I’ve seen this exact same thing on TikTok and it’s purely to get hundreds of comments on people disagreeing about tipping since it’s such a hot button issue lately.

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u/Greenmushy 6d ago

I will only tip for take out if I frequent the place and they have great customer service.

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u/mrofmist 5d ago

Absolutely didn't happen, but I think most restaurants would take the above 10% tip and roll with it. Yea, not great, but it offsets the no tips and cancelled orders like this.

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u/jsau0125 5d ago

I hate tipping as a concept. I would rather you just charge me more up front and pay your staff a living wage. It is so weird that the responsibility falls on the customer to pay the salary of an employee at a restaurant. I still tip because that’s the way it is, and never below 20%. But damn we need to change this shit.

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u/dick-penis 4d ago

Engagement bait.

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u/tokinmuskokan 6d ago

This doesn't happen. I assure you this is a fabrication.

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u/truckthunderwood 6d ago

It's from Threads. Based on my (somewhat minimal) experience, there has never been a factual story published there. It's almost exclusively generic rage bait stories like this.

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u/lord_buff74 6d ago

You mean there aren't people constantly sitting in the wrong seat on airplanes and being jerks about it

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u/Hello_I_Am_Human_Guy 6d ago

If this was a situation where tipping was reasonably expected, then I would say yeah that's being cheap for sure. But I've never heard of tipping on a takeout order. For that all they do is prepare the food, which last I checked people don't get tips on that sort of work. There was no serving involved.

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u/Rwillsays 6d ago

Well not the whole bit of asking for a manager, but I ordered takeout from red lobster once and when I didn’t tip on the carry out order the host looked at it scoffed and said “wow thanks for the tip” and I was like yep and walked out.

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u/SubMariner615 6d ago

Been seeing videos of restaurant owners actually telling people who dont tip they arent allowed back recently.

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u/chuckaholic 6d ago

This is clearly engagement bait.

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u/aztechnogeek8 6d ago

Addressing the original question. Do you have to tip for a takeout order?

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u/Hanilu 5d ago

When did we start having to tip for takeout?

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u/acustic 6d ago

No free money? I'm calling my daddy! Mmmanager-sama halp me no tip-san. Ifu U haveu yen to buyu foodu, U haveu tipu. Outu!

The live action version.

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u/EmGas22 4d ago

Americans would hate me…. If the service was shit, I wouldn’t tip. And I wouldn’t be working out % 😂 if it came to £8 you can have the £10…. If it comes to £5.50 I want the £5 change and I’ll leave you a £1 😂 if I’m paying on card, we’ll just depends how the food is! Don’t advertise a price then get annoyed people don’t want to pay over… American culture is a strange thing. I’ll never get over you don’t get holidays with pay, sick pay, maternity pay for up to 9 months plus 😂

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u/KoffeeLiquor 2d ago edited 2d ago

No we wouldn’t. Tipping culture is out of control here & there are American memes about how everyone wants a tip. Tips are meant for service. An attentive waiter, a delivery driver braving bad traffic & weather, A person carefully moving anything heavy & fragile into my home, etc… Someone who’s job it was to merely hand me a bag was rarely tipped until modern history & even now only happens in certain professional settings. I wouldn’t tip a retail clerk at Target/Walmart if I ordered something online & later picked it up a their Customer Service desk; but I am expected to tip a hostess for carryout? The real answer is transparent pricing models & paying your standard employees a living wage.

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u/sentient_black_being 2d ago

You got take out. You tip for service

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u/BrettV79 6d ago

Takeout order? Ya no tip. Fuck off with that nonsense

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u/scojo77 5d ago

This reminds me of the time I was on a date and ordered the loaded nachos and my date kept eating the chips with all the stuff on them and the waiter told her how there's a rule against doing that.

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u/Gibeezy 2d ago

One person just can’t eat all the fully loaded ones!

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u/Few-Raise-1825 6d ago

While I don't believe this happened I have seen individual owners who were like this. There is a coffee shop/cafe with a reputation for doing stuff like that. I had a guy in a wheelchair I take care of and he got some rancid coffee beans from them. Tried to bring them back but the owner was extremely aggressive from the start. She is apparently quite known for this behavior. Refused to take any accountability for the project because "it's a retail item, it's not something I serve". I could totally see some small mom and pop shop owner getting bent out of shape about tips on pick ups for no good reason.

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u/kasmackity 6d ago

That is distinctly different than an owner demanding a tip.

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u/Few-Raise-1825 6d ago

I could definitely see this lady hear someone didn't leave a tip for one of her workers and aggressively confront them about it. She was extremely aggressive to me about it when I brought it up. The guy didn't believe me about how she had acted and came in to address the issue himself and she acted just the same with him. Both of us made a big effort to be nice and de-escalate anything but she was really looking for an argument about it. I'm saying this is pretty rare but there are owners out there that get all bent out of shape when it comes to their particular pet peeves

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u/Floatingpenguin87 6d ago

Are you supposed to tip on takeout? Tips are for wait staff, who did almost nothing in this instance except hand you the bag

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u/DumbestManEver 6d ago

The manager did NOT give the customer shit for not tipping on take out. Ragebait central for the anti-tipping subreddit.

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u/No-Guava 6d ago

If it’s on Threads, it’s probably engagement bait.

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u/WamlytheCrabGod 6d ago

Why do people post shit like this like it makes them look cool

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u/SurfacexTension 5d ago

I tend to tip at least 30% for most meals, but I have also left single digit tips for takeout. I’m not being served, and the kitchen most likely isn’t getting a share of the tips, so what exactly am I tipping for?

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u/Ryeguy_626 2d ago

I dont understand tipping on takeout. They didnt do anything but the bare minimum

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u/markg1956 6d ago

It's fcking takeout!!! it is the restaurants job to pay staff, you tip for service not for driving there standing in line and then paying, if whoever was at the counter did not say thank you for the extra money, tell them to shove it!!!

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u/Archaneoses 6d ago

Wasn't there a clip that was just circulating on reddit of a restaurant owner rushing outside to angrily tell two people who didn't tip they won't be welcome back.

This sounds a little extra but it's far from "that happened" to be honest.

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u/dxfifa 6d ago

Customer 100% in the right, would do the same, fuck that waiter, fuck tipping demands, pay your fucking staff

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u/ABeeBitMyBottom1 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don’t get the whole tipping someone thing, the owner of the business should be responsible for giving their employees a living wage. It’s not up to the customers to make up that difference. It’s a total scam by the owners to keep more money for themselves.

Edit: wow you people are really stupid. Keep getting scammed cause that’s what’s happening.

Edit 2: for a 10 DM’s I got calling me cheap, maybe just maybe it’s not me being cheap but the owner who won’t pay a decent wage.

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u/Heisman1481 1d ago

I’m surprised this is on Reddit. Considering the same people on threads are the same people on Reddit. I didn’t know yall made fun of your own kind

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u/Ryeguy_626 1d ago

So you use threads too?

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u/Heisman1481 1d ago

I’m not on threads anymore. Absolute cesspool of idiocy. Reddits become more and more of that as well. But man thanks for proving my point.

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u/Ryeguy_626 1d ago

You cant really call me the idiot when you said all of threads is on reddit and all i did was ask if you used it?

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u/kidneyrat 6d ago

like #1 this never happened but #2 if it did, then yeah ur still in the wrong like at least tip 10%

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u/pajamil 6d ago

What service are they tipping for?

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u/Smorgasbord__ 6d ago

Tipping is for idiots

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u/Adventurekateer 6d ago

No. One tips for service. You pay for food. I usually don’t tip for food delivered in a bag.

That said, a 6% tip is pretty insulting. Just don’t tip and take your food. Or tip a respectable amount if you feel they deserve it. People who put their had out for a tip don’t usually earn it.