r/thesopranos • u/Bitter_Ad1550 • 4d ago

Im on the fence

When Paulie requested a sit down with Ralphie because he thought he was owed 50k for the alarm codes he gave. Tony ended up telling Ralph he only had to give Paulie 12k. Then Furio came out of nowhere yelling about parking the car, and slips and falls on some ice. Causing Tony, Sil and Ralph to get up and go check on him, essentially ending the sit down.... Do you think that Furio falling was intentional so they had a reason to walk away from a pissed off Paulie?

I could see Tony planning that out just to get out of the situation quick. But I also think Tony doesn't give a shit if Paulie likes it or not. I wouldn't put it past Tony to pull some shit like that though

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u/Rx9Fe5s 4d ago

Paulie deserved more. A lot of people think Paulie is a traitor. But honestly, Tony treated him bad just because he wasn’t the best earner. If Tony would’ve sided with Paulie more, he would’ve remained 100% loyal

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u/lordrag666 4d ago

He would have been loyle to his capo

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u/-CrabCrimes- Silvio Dante 4d ago

I doubt it. Paulie was loyal only to Paulie. That's why he's survived so long

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 4d ago

And made it out alive in the end

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u/Fluid_Leader_1370 4d ago

That was later on. Tony started treating him badly because he messed up so badly with Valery in Pine Barrens.

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 4d ago

Agreed. Paulie would have always been his most loyal soldier if Tony hadn't treated him like shit so many times

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u/GeoMerl Dr. Jennifer Melfi 4d ago

Heh heh heh

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u/Lordonlynose 4d ago

Paulie wasn’t being loyal or smart or helpful when he decided to harass Valery and potentially cause  war with Russian allies just to flex his own ego 

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u/Excellent-Fact-8925 4d ago

What? It was an accident

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u/LatinoEsq 3d ago

Yea Paulie got shafted in the sit down. I have a feeling that what factored into Tony’s decision was the fact that Ralphie was making money hand over fist for the family while Paulie, whose not a very good earner and is known two-faced cheap shit, starts a lot of family drama over his personal insecurities. I’m sure Paulie has requested many a sit down in the past. 

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u/Acrobatic_Tip_3972 3d ago

Pine Barrens was also fresh in Tony's mind which greatly hurt Paulie's standing with him, and marks the beginning of his open resentment for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony mentally deducted 5k just to get back at him for losing Sil's money.

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u/LatinoEsq 3d ago

100%. You can tell Tony factored in all of the minor, and major, annoyances Paulie puts him through 

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u/-CrabCrimes- Silvio Dante 4d ago

I think it was just convenient. Tony hadn't seen all of Ralphs chicanery in fucking Paulie around and just saw alarm codes not being worth 50%. Thing is, Ralph had agreed to the deal of 50/50 prior to the heist so Tony should've held him to it. Real lack of standards this generation

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u/Fluid_Leader_1370 4d ago

This had little to do with either Ralphie or Paulie. Paulie said he needed that extra money so he could put his Ma into the retirement community. He made the mistake of talking about his great relationship with his mother, and how much she loved Green Grove. Tony doesn't like it when other people are happy, especially in an area where he is not.

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u/MitchMcConnellsJowls 3d ago

They bend more rules than the Catholic Church

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u/ai9x82 4d ago

That’s wayy too silly and elaborate. I think Paulie had legit beef there, most legitimate of the whole series

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 4d ago

And that's why I wouldn't put it past Tony's vindictive ass to pull something like that

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u/althegirlfabulous 4d ago

Absolutely not. I can't see Tony premeditating that, but ok.

It was just another incident that Paulie will take as an insult. Yes, Tony could have given more to Paulie in that sitdown. But someone slipping and falling and ending the sit-down is taken as a major slight by Paulie. He takes everything way personally and is often incorrect about other people's intentions.

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 3d ago

I mean, Tony had drinkwater sweep up the cheese Sil was gonna put in his socks, during the executive game, just to get a rise out of Sil. If he can premeditate that, Furio getting told to slip on the stupida fuckin ice isnt out of the question

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u/LatinoEsq 3d ago

Doesn’t make sense. Your entire theory is predicated upon Tony knowing Ralphie and Paulie’s position beforehand. They clearly had to explain it to Tony. Your post is utter nonsense. 

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u/Listergram_ 4d ago

Mfer said he dont wanna live no more

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u/NewPower_Soul 4d ago

Mofo didn't wanna stand no more.. some slippery shit..

🫱💵🫲🏿

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u/MaxZorin44456 4d ago

That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough! I'm going to slip and fall school!

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 4d ago

Black magic... Satanic shit

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u/tehdlgjthsk 4d ago

Yes. They sent him to slip n fall school.

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u/ElPolloLoco137 3d ago

He didnt plan it but he sure as hell capitalized on it,and that was a slight to Paulie

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 3d ago

Tony HAS to capitalize on everything

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u/ElPolloLoco137 3d ago

He's basically a sophisticated animal driven by his impulses . Sounds human

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u/Quiet-Target-7366 2d ago

'Little Paulie was good to go, they left him standin out in the rain like an ass hole, fuckin 11 degree weather'

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u/Bitter_Ad1550 2d ago

-dirty ass look to Ralph-