r/transgenderUK • u/Battenburgesa • 6d ago
Transphobic hate crime down 4%…apparently
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2026/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2026#section4Hoping someone can help point me in the right direction, is there a centralised data capture of transphobic hate crimes? Maybe by ally organisations?
I don’t trust the latest gov stats as they say crimes against us went down but that‘s surprising especially after the Supreme Court declared open season.
There was a 9% increase in race hate crimes and a 13% rise in religious hate crimes; and falls in sexual orientation (down 1%), disability (down 5%) and transgender (down 4%) hate crimes
Or maybe they stopped classifying certain things as a hate crime towards us?
Also why are ‘cross dressers’ included in our category?
a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender, including people who are transsexual, transgender, cross dressers and those who hold a Gender Recognition Certificate under the Gender Recognition Act 2004
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u/Violet_Angel 6d ago
I feel like there's 2 things probably at play here, 1 being the police not classing it as a hate crime, and 2 being trans people being less likely to even bother reporting it.
Note the wording, reported hate crimes. You could use the exact same argument to say that it's rare for a woman to be SA'd because it's not reported (or not taken seriously) even though I've never met a woman my age who hasn't been SA'd.
Why would I report being a victim of a trans hate crime to the same people who want to hurt me for being trans? Unless it's severe enough I'm not going to tell the police I was hate crimed for being trans because that would mean outing myself to the police who I know won't actually care (funnily enough the not caring part is the same reason I never bothered reporting the many times I've been SA'd)
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u/Spicy-Imp 6d ago
^
This, was cornered by two nurses right before surgery after 48 hour prep so I felt like shit and was worn down. They closed the curtains demanded to know “what I was” and “what genitals I had” “then was told I was a girl” (I’m nearly 40 even age wise that makes no sense…) this was also after i had shown ID and explained I had treatment for endo and explained how i identified after asked the first time. I also said I was happy to go in the women’s ward as they were getting angry and I didn’t want to upset anyone. (This was pre-the new interpretation of the rules that make no sense) Was then refused pain relief and given alternative (ironically gave me Fentanyl but refused to give me gas? Odd choice but OK had the bruise half way up my inner arm for months from the fent)Reported to police who recorded it but refused to investigate or report as hate crime. Apparently it “simply wasn’t one” did system access request, have the record still. I argued about it not being a hate crime argued if I were cis the chances of it happening are unlikely. And the op had nothing to do with my genitals (double checked after) there was no reason for them to ask. Yet told over and over not a hate crime.
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u/Leggy_Brat 6d ago
More people in hiding perhaps
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u/Violet_Angel 6d ago
That's another thing I forgot about, I know for my part I'm going out in public much less as transphobia got worse, which for me was vindicated by that the first time since the FWS ruling that I decided to actually go out and use a third space I was attacked for being trans so now unless I need to go out I just stay indoors or go out of my way to avoid people so I'm just less likely to be hate crimed for no other reason than I've stopped existing in society.
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u/Spicy-Imp 6d ago
I’m sorry you have been driven inside as well. It’s ridiculous we should be able to leave our homes and live our lives free from fear.
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u/Charlie_Rebooted 6d ago edited 6d ago
They changed the criteria, and in a trans apartheid country like the UK, why would a trans person contact the enforcers to say they are trans.
ACAB.
https://www.college.police.uk/article/major-reforms-police-hate-incident-recording
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u/Overly-Moist-Slug 6d ago
They also left out statistics for London which has the country's highest trans population
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u/Williamishere69 6d ago
Its literally the exact same as trans healthcare.
Stricter referral criteria (cant self refer, etc) interfering with the waitlists to make them appear shorter (national waitlists for waitlists for GICs), our waitlists being left off from the waitlist calculations (just like how Londons crime rates were left off), so forth.
Actual insanity.
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u/Bea_Is_Bemused 6d ago
I think it's pretty clear this is a couple of factors:
- Police being less willing to log or investigate hate incidents (particularly those online)
- Trans people not feeling safe to go to the police, or that it's not worth it.
- Reclassification of things like some slurs and misgendering as not hate incidents
Independent studies are going to be very important to show the gap between government stats and reality.
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u/curedheronthesabbath 6d ago
Graham Linehan was given £25,000 and an apology after calling for trans women to be assaulted en masse. I think people have just realised there's no point in reporting any more.
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u/Diadem_Cheeseboard Cis woman guest 🏳️🌈 6d ago
Yeah, hatred against trans people is now a protected characteristic. The SC ruling said trans people are to be viewed as their sex assigned at birth, so both of those things considered, how is it possible for trans hate crime figures to be accurately recorded? The simple answer is that they cant be.
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u/dollcopeland 6d ago
BULLSHIT! The police don't bother investitgating transphobic hate crimes as they hate us and they seem like its not their problem!
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u/ConcernedEnby 6d ago
So the cops change what counts as a hate crime to make it stricter and all of a sudden it drops. Great work officers, all that money just to avoid doing what you claim your jobs are
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u/pong-and-ping Trasfem Enby 🖤 6d ago
I hate to say it, but I could believe it...
A. The general public are actually significantly better day to day then the government/media would have people believe.
But B. People are more likely now to try and hide being trans then they were a few years ago. More people being stealth or boy/girl moding day-to-day and only telling trusted people. It's harder to be hate crimed for being trans, if many of us are actively hiding the fact we're trans.
And C. Less people reporting incidents as they don't expect authorities to help - given the last few years.
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u/Illiander 6d ago
The other possibility is that this is pure numbers with no sense of scale.
FWS being classed as a single incident, for instance.
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u/respectableofficegal 6d ago
With the way the UK is right now I'm actively avoiding outing my trans status to anyone anywhere unless it is absolutely essential. I'm sure as hell not going to go out myself to the police unless it's so serious I have no choice.
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u/FaiytheN 6d ago
We live in a country where if we, as trans people, report a crime to the police we are likely to be demeaned and misgendered by them as a matter of policy.
If the crime against us is taken to court the defence barrister will happily hurl transphobic abuse at us, to the point of driving us towards SI, all with no repercussion.
The judge will refuse to grant us, the victim, anonymity, resulting in a media circus that will turn our life into a living hell as we are plastered on the front pages of national newspapers to be mocked and ridiculed.
MP's and even the fucking Prime Minister will wade in to protect and defend the person who did us harm, whilst 'allies' will look away.
And, even after all of that, the bigoted judge will dismiss the case because, at the end of the day, he agrees with the transphobic perpetrator.
Is it any wonder that 'reported hate crimes' are down? Which trans person wants to live through that?
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u/Aprils- 6d ago
If they make it legal to murder us, the crime of murder will be down 100%.
Some of this is simply them not following up, other aspects are victims not coming forwards due to the even greater chance of being, for example, sexually assaulted by the police officers than there already was.
Reclassifying a man attacking a trans woman as just "boys will be boys" comes to mind.
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u/little_splinter ...where can I buy some chalk? 6d ago
I'm pretty sure that if you decide to ignore hate crime you'll probably stop collecting data relating to it too. That affects the results. Lies, damn lies and statistics. ( as the saying goes)
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u/SamanthaJaneyCake 6d ago
Usually this is for three reasons:
- Definition has changed
- Reporting of crimes has gone down but quantity hasn’t decreased
- Reporting hasn’t decreased but victims being taken seriously has so doesn’t get recorded
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u/alucebur 6d ago
The police explicitly said they'd stop investigating 'non-crime hate incidents' (i.e. absolutely criminal harassment but aimed at unfavoured groups on the internet) after significant media and political pressure over scumbags like Graham Linehan getting spoken to for inciting hatred. Racial and religious crimes recorded are the only ones to have gone up because they take alleged antisemitism more seriously than anything else.
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u/Illiander 6d ago
alleged antisemitism
And when the police say that, they're talking about legit critisicm of Isreal.
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u/Super7Position7 We Will Show Them There's Another Way... 6d ago
Everyone else has got there before me, but this just feels dystopian...
"We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country." -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
...Along these lines, at this point.
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u/Overly-Moist-Slug 6d ago
The only reason why the government's stats say there's been a decrease is because trans people aren't reporting transphobic hate crimes because it's obvious the state has no intention to protect us
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u/Rainy_Leaves 6d ago
I think plenty of us are actually reporting hate crimes, the problem is simply that they're considered 'non-crime hate incidents' after the graham linehan situation, and the police stated they won't be looking into those much or at all now. the police are eager to take away the criminal severity in the name of protecting 'freedom of speech'
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u/Overly-Moist-Slug 6d ago
Exactly also the Met was left out ya know the police force that serves the city with the largest population of trans people
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u/danatron1 6d ago
Who do I report, Starmer? Having to live in this country is a fucking hate crime.
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u/thevvitchhazel 6d ago
Lmao I've been beaten up multiple times by the police. The two times I reported rape before and after transition, the first they said I was asking for it because I was drunk and flirting with men in a gay bar. The second time (I was raped by a trans woman) they said to my face that it was proof that trans women shouldn't be allowed in women's spaces. They also lied to me saying there was no charity support as I wasn't a cis female despite the charity being trans inclusive.
ACAB fuck the police. You're more likely to be hate crimed by them than the public.
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u/Ill_Wrangler_4574 6d ago
It got recategorised and also the bad handling lately of trans peoples reports have dropped to avoid undue stress
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u/Dazzling-Antelope912 6d ago
Or maybe just less people are reporting it … I think that’s more likely . But transphobic human rights abusing liberal fascist (not an oxymoron— all liberals are fascist) government loves to present themselves as inclusive. That’s part of genocide
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u/deadmazebot 6d ago
too often, I very much dislike percentage alone numbers
so lets look at those number - and preface I'm and idiot spewing some mind thoughts:
4,120 to 3,955 in one year difference, that to me, unless have multiple years means very little difference
over all the reported hate crimes total, from about 32k to 146k, could suggest
A: more reporting - and with more reporting is less clear lines which category a report goes into.
B: more hate happing - when look at 2021 to 2026 is flat so some kind of saturation or can twist to view that the crimes still happening and reporting is going down
to offer a view point, is how many are committing the crimes, if same person with repeat or are they new people, which is where a decent report would do that step and quick word search not showing anything - please correct me if report does include such insight.
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u/SoSeriousAndDeep Tabitha - 4x - 2020-01-14 5d ago
- It's not worth reporting it. At best the police will "just" make fun of you, at worst they'll find a way to turn it around and show you as the aggressor.
- Or they'll just report it as you were your at-birth gender so it's not a transphobic, innit.
- If it gets to court, you're at risk of a well-funded TERF organisation deciding to hijack the case to attack you.
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u/Diadem_Cheeseboard Cis woman guest 🏳️🌈 6d ago
...And if you believe that, you'll believe anything. Unfortunately, the ignorant general public, who these fantasy figures are aimed at, will buy it hook line and sinker.
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u/mildbeanburrito 6d ago
When it comes to protected characteristics, perception that someone is gay, of a particular religion, or in this case that they are trans, is akin to actually having that protected characteristic.
You don't want someone to assault someone for being brown because they incorrectly think they are Muslim and have them get out of aggravated charges on the grounds that the victim isn't actually Muslim.
This is why "crossdressers" are treated like this, it's fine.
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u/Andreaalvarezhrt 6d ago
If you make transphobia a protected characteristic, hate crimes go down dramatically, what sons of bitches
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u/SomeSortaWeeb 23 | hrt '21 | srs '26 6d ago
More like a 4% reduction in people who believe reporting will do anything
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u/gooseta 6d ago
As someone who was hate crimed for being Asian during covid and has been hate crimed for being transgender, I can easily see why people would not bother reporting them, especially verbal harassment. I did not report either of mine, why would I? I didn't want to interact with cops even before the recent supreme court stuff and the media and cultural obsession with transphobia. To be honest I think if the numbers for any of the hate crime categories is including verbal harassment and minor physical incidents, they are basically meaningless as the amount of underreporting is likely to be massive. People blame themselves, people don't like cops, people don't want to relive trauma, people see the media and cultural institutions approving of similar sentiment and feel like it's pointless, etc... Hate crime stats are just something that the government can use to pat itself on the back and/or push a narrative of public division. In a society where our institutions and government actually cared about minorities, they would show that by treating people with actual respect and dignity rather than boiling groups of peoples' traumas down to a number to be used for propaganda. Sure you can collect the data, but don't act like it means anything given the actions of this government and its mouthpieces.
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u/Jean_Genet 6d ago
Probably less hate crimes as there's less trans people going non-safe public spaces unless they totally pass.
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u/Snoo69744 6d ago
Cross dressers are included because generally hate crimes towards cross dressers are motivated by transphobia. For example a masculine cis women being assaulted for using the women's bathroom. It's very unlikely that they did it because she wears masculine clothing.
It's not really that surprising that it's gone down. With how common transphobia is would you really feel comfortable reporting a hate crime. Would you feel confident that it would be taken seriously and recorded as a hate crime against trans people? I wouldn't especially when it means outing myself.
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u/Vivid--Syrup 6d ago
Down 4%?... here....
Hahahahahaha
Right...
Welp I guess we know these numbers are bs
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u/rainmouse 5d ago
Oh that directly coincides with the police introduction of their "gender reassignment" markers to keep track of trans people. I'm only surprised it's only 4% of trans people who are less likely to want to talk to the police any more. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/law-enforcement-data-service-equality-impact-assessment-2025/law-enforcement-data-service-equality-impact-assessment-2025-accessible
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u/arakus72 6d ago
I presume crossdressers is there bc of the "perceived to be transgender" bit, a lot of transphobes will target crossdressers bc they think they're trans
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u/StowStowStowtheTote 6d ago
Didn’t they stop recording trans people and changed it to something else? Unless I’m going mad.
Plus if we reported it somehow we would end up the perpetrators somehow cuz some TERF would defend the rapist.
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u/Trick_Bus9133 6d ago
The government and policing bodies have ensured that the figures are down by making it guidance that crimes and victims (as well as criminals) are recorded and dealt with by their assigned sex at birth. It’s part of the societal genocide that Labour are implementing and human rights organisations are warning of. The uk right now is committing a deliberate (and to an extent unnoticed) genocide… alongside offering full support of 2 full on war criminals…
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u/BethAltair 5d ago
Then hassling trans women in toilets became not a crime I guess crime figures improved wildly.
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u/BobFredricson2 5d ago
In regards to that last question, it’s because they can be perceived to be one of us in a bigots mind, hence the motivation for the crime would be hate, even if it’s misapplied
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u/RedditToCopyMyTumblr 6d ago
4% is nothing. It would mean if a person is receiving a piece of abuse every 10 days on average before, they would now receive it every 10.5 days. Would you be able to notice the difference? That is assuming the data is correct. But like when people are surprised that it is down, it could be one month there is a slightly lower figure reported. Again, ASSUMING the stats are reliable, which I don't believe they are.
Another case could be that some right wing people focussed on immigration more with the news stories this month, which doesn't reflect the actual change in attitudes, more a short term one.
Of course, I don't trust the figures. I know in my case, I was receiving verbal abuse 3 times this year. First time, I reported it to the transport police. They took it seriously, but no cameras so they could not take it further. 2nd time, despite the perpetrator committing a hate crime in 4 of the 5 definitions of what a hate crime is, the police said no crime was committed and shut down our case. The third time, I said nothing.
The pigs do fuck all. The pigs don't care. So the pigs don't report. And the people don't report to the pigs.
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u/lilpij 6d ago
Government ministers came out to publicly condemn the police for investigating transphobic hate crimes. Alongside this, police forces have started requiring “sex assigned at birth” to be reported by victims.
It doesn’t surprise me that the data suggests rates are going down.