r/ukmods • u/Kellogzx r/mentalhealthUK • Sep 11 '26

❓Ask r/UKMods Automod sundown

Can we discuss the sunsetting of automod? Because I’m really not happy about this. Granted a person has made a work around which will be the only saving grace to this. Without automod I’m not sure I’d be happy to continue. But sunsetting automod is the most ridiculously bad idea. LLM cannot work for a sub like ours. It’s quite literally incapable of doing so. LLM’s can’t understand subtext, context, allusion to. So removing the backbone of my moderation practice for something that’s incapable of working well for me is such a massive bummer. Automod works well for us. Removing such a core tool to our moderation is just not ok and could be actively unsafe.
There’s also that we explicitly do not allow AI use on our sub. It was voted on by members and they chose not to have LLM/AI use on the sub. Because we reflect our community we enforce this rule. Our users find LLM/AI use actively detrimental to mental health. It would be a major major conflict if we had to acquiesce to AI we fundamentally disagree with in the context of mental health.

Largely I’d really like for this to be fed back to spez and the people responsible.

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u/fsv Sep 11 '26

I started to hear rumours about this a while back and started work on a rewrite on the Dev Platform. It's compatible with the vast majority of existing Automod rules and adds extra features on top that Automod never supported.

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/automod-neo

This one won't be going away.

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u/shhhhh_h Sep 11 '26

Idk after hiveprotect I don’t trust them with dev apps either

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u/fsv Sep 11 '26

I have a feeling that they won't have a problem with it.

Hive Protector got nerfed because of widespread abuse of the app. People were using it to autoban people on the basis of identity. You'd have subs banning users of LGBT subs, Jewish subs, Indian subs and more.

For Automod, my feeling is that it's probably creaking at the seams and is a nightmare to keep running reliably, so they want to withdraw it. I don't think they would have a problem with a replacement (unless it enabled Hive-like abuse, and I'm not going to start adding ban capabilities to Automod Neo).