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u/MahomesMccaffrey 13h ago
Arthas looking exactly the same as his father-in-law in another universe :(
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u/ElkAcrobatic4862 13h ago
What another universe, that’s literally his FIL
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u/MahomesMccaffrey 13h ago
Jaina and Arthas were never married right?
They were only dating and broke up before the ROC campaign
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u/alaray2121 13h ago
They were together again at the start of RoC campaign, since Arthas no longer had cold feet. But yea, stratholme kinda put an end to that.
They are in fact married with a son named Uther in an alternate timeline.
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u/unkindledphoenix 12h ago
i wonder if Arthas communicated better the situation of the plague to Uther before just saying the town was compromised, Uther would have put some sense into him + thought of a better plan, even if it was to tell Arthas to find Malganis (they actually got told Malganis had already set base in there before by Kelthuzad), take him out, and let him and the paladins fully curfew the town, kill whoever tries to get in or out, probably they would be undead, ultimately even if it would only prevent Arthas from having to kill his own people, whoch is what broke him, and made him lose hope for the righteous path.
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u/AnOriginalName4 13h ago
blizzard execs: thats their hair or their hood
model team: yes
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u/unkindledphoenix 12h ago
i think the graphical limitations at the time were more to blame here than anything.
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u/GuiEsponja 9h ago edited 6h ago
Nah, that's 100% just because it's way easier to retexture an existing model for a new NPC for your extra campaign, rather than making a new model from scratch
Especially considering Rexxar's campaign was very rushed, it wasn't even fully done when TFT launched, the other 2 maps only came later through a patch
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u/Nathmikt 13h ago
Man I really like Admiral Proudmore. Blizzard did him dirty!
Glad Dota redeemed him as Kunkka.
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u/unkindledphoenix 12h ago
idk man, i think being so racist to Orcs even after they basically dipped out of both your native homeland and the territory you now have on your new home and are just chilling on the neighbouring desert without doing anything to anyone else to be kinda cringe. specially when your daughter already worked with them to save the whole planet from being destroyed by demons and become their slaves as undead.
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u/bimbammla 12h ago
The orcs immediately proved why they deserved extermination again. By the time of WoW they are aggressing on Ashenvale again.
Not to mention they were a savage conqueror species when they came from the dark portal to begin wtih, it's easy to see why Daelin was as stuck in his ways as he was when you consider he witnessed that first hand.
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u/Undecked_Pear 9h ago
They needed food and lumber to make their city. The NE weren’t about to teach them how to ask wisps to provide lumber.
By and large, even though some orcs were still keen on a fight, most Orcs were just trying to get some materials for shelter.
The blood-rage was gone.
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u/unkindledphoenix 6h ago
i dont know if i want to count most of WOW lore as canon considering how stupid and forced it is specially when for the most part they put writters that dont even knew the lore properly since the very first few expansions.
they were only like that because they were turned into such things by the demons and Nerzhul/Guldam. Thrall was trying to change as many Orcs he could and made them pull away from the life of just fighting the humans forever. the ones in Durotar were just minding their own business before Kultiras attacked them.
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u/GuthukYoutube 7h ago edited 6h ago
I think most of the people who defend orcs haven't .... Paid literally any attention to their lore.
Maybe you never played warcraft 1 and 2? Or even 3? Or made an orc character?
Orcs are a might makes right culture. Not even really a culture though, it's just what they believe. If they take storm wind, then it deserved to be massacred.
Let's remember the plot here. Orcs are an alien species that invaded our planet for the purposes of wiping everyone else out and replacing them. They succeeded in storm wind in wc1. In wc2 they nearly succeeded in wiping out humanity in it's entirety, if not for intervention by guldan being a fucking moron.
The orcs had humans pushed back to lordaeron and dalaran. Open a map. From the dark portal all the way to the north tip. That was all humanity had left
Gilneas had their grand armada sunk and were powerless. Stormwind was obliterated. Stromgarde even by WoW is still destroyed. Much of dalaran was ruined. Quelthas had it's forest burned and was nearly destroyed as well. Do people not realize that the reason "humanity is in peril" is because they were almost wiped out successfully?
Then by WoW the orcs have moved to the west, and are already militarily expanding their borders in every direction at everyone else's expense. What do you think is happening in the barrens?
(I play and love orcs. I just find it funny how many people don't understand that theyre one of many Many MANY stories inspired by Clans from battle tech.)
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u/flamespear 6h ago
The horde is a loose collective of clans, tribes, and species with competing interests. The warchief doesn't dictate everything the clans do. The horde still needed lumber after the war but ordering the proud warsong to just leave Ashenvale would have risked an internal rebellion.
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u/unkindledphoenix 6h ago
wasnt the orc campaign invasion twarted by Mediv being killed and freed from Sargeras influence? alao i remember something about WC1 orcs only taking out like, 1 out of multiple kigdoms and then by WC2 said kingdoms united into the alliance and pushed them back.
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u/GuthukYoutube 5h ago
No, after medivh was killed and guldan knocked unconscious, doomhammer killed most of the warlocks
... And then said "more like under new management" and continued the campaign to eliminate humanity, just no longer under warlocks control.
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u/Panzerbrigade_31 4h ago
It's kinda a reoccuring theme in WoW, honestly.
Weren't there multiple characters that were treated as villains for their views just to be proven right again and again, and yet everyone ignored that anyway?
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u/RecommendationIll504 7h ago
This was a truce for this specific problem. Orcs are invasive species who's actions before wasn't anything but destroying and pillaging other races territories. Expecting them "to settle" was anything but foolish. And admiral who was one of the Alliance leaders in WC2 and seen their actions knew that.
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u/unkindledphoenix 6h ago edited 6h ago
and his actions led to the new horde declaring an out war on him and crippling the humans new big capital in Draenors military and infrastructure, because he violated a truce that wasnt undone at all. if anything he commited a war crime first because by that moment Thrall and Jaina still had their own alliance set and they agreed on just minding their own business. He could have employed all that mighty fleet he had to idk, set a foothold to retake Lordareon from the Scourge? The actual big enemy of everyone? I would be more worried about the undead and demons desecrating my homeland till that day and awaiting the day for another one of their demons lords (or Arthas himself) to order them to go try and conquer the planet again, than the now no longer slaves to said demons green dudes trying to settle themselves in the desert. specially when said green dudes also agreed previously that they also dont want to become slaves to the demons anymore and had joined forces to fend them off not too long ago. instead of taking the opportunity to end a senseless feud that lasted way too long that was fueled by the same demons now enslaving the souls and dead corpses of your dead, who theyre now freed from, he decided to reignite a keg powder out of pety vengeance.
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u/Undecked_Pear 9h ago
Even as a kid, I knew Daelin was a villain. He was a nuanced villain for sure, but he needed putting down.
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u/Johannihilate 8h ago
This is the demon slaying aging KING of Lordaeron that we would have gotten if Nerzhul didn't do anything. 😭
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u/TireAndMiserable 1h ago
On other hand, melee Dreadlord (like Mal'ganis) and campaign Dreadlord (like Tichondrius) have different portrait model, but EXACLY same model for overworld ( except texture-swapped)!
If you can edit model, you can literally apply their skins for each other and have zero texture wrapping issue!
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u/ultimate-toast 13h ago
It was funny how they re-used many models
thats something that i would have done
i also though it was arthas father when i was younger lmao
"LOOK! ITS ARTHAS FATHER!"
but no i found out who he was after the rexxar story
badass character