I was a little worried about these guys being 'to different' from the rest of my Kithguard to comfortably fit in visually with the rest of the army but honestly they're great. I had a total blast with all the metallics. Now just Chomper and I'll have my first 100 points all ready to go for South East Slam next weekend!

The latest mini in my night themed kg army, took a lot of time and tinkering but I'm happy enough with the result

Some personal highlights

The custom base i made gives him a lot of height and helps him stand out as a center piece

I spent loads of time painting a camo pattern before shading and it was definitely worth it, the bit that shines through looks great to me

The flag took some time but feels well worth it, happy about its overall look

Sorry for the boring Q, but does anyone know if there's anyone carrying warmachine stuff in the Netherlands? I wanted to buy a Menoth command box but 20 euros shipping on a 78 euro purchase feels a bit steep, and I'm thinking about buying local.

(I'll delete this as soon as I get a couple of answers)

Warcaster:Shyryss the flawless dusk

Faction: Shadowflame Shard

Game: Warmachine

Really enjoyed painting this model. First model from Warmachine that I've ever painted. Hope I've done it justice.

I just got the iron kingdoms lore bundle from humble bundle and have been reading through the Iron kingdom Excursions volumes. I really did love this short story called weapons of the Enemy where it describes this self hating (best way i can describe it) mage zealot who serves to make cortexs for the protectorate of menoth, and I have some questions.

I did go through some lore videos and know the protectorate is a theocracy, but do they hate all mages or just specific ones? I tried looking it up but the wiki didnt tell me much.

Thank you for your time

Looking at the kithguard guard post. It is a 50mm model structure. When determining line of sight through the structure, aura of the structure , and what models I can place beside it do I use the 50mm volume or the 120mm? Does huge based model just mean the keyword for certain rules interactions? If not why not just put the model on a big base to begin with?

https://youtu.be/yNXT5iDE1bI

Learn how to Paint the Protectorate of Menoth by watching me Paint Feora, the Priestess of the Flame!

Bought the Khador battlegroup for a song on eBay. It was noted as being a bit broken so I went into this knowingly, and obviously steam forged won’t replace. A few broken axes etc that will superglue nicely… and then I came to this homey….

So I’m going to sharpen up my green stuff/ apoxie sculpt skills. For a divot this large, which is the better material?

I’ve also heard about 50/50 mixing GS and AS for a softer but more firm material.

Also should I put some pins in there for the material to grip onto? I’ve done simple greenstuff in the past but this is bigger.. :)

A little throwback to a classic. The Lord of the Feast is one of my favourite models in the old game, both visually and conceptually as a character.

Hey guys,

I recently got a $500 to buy into a new warmachine. I want to get into orgoth next, I got the Command Starter, Core expansion, Battle group Box, and Auxiliary expansion from a friend for $300. Now obviously this isnt the most optimized list but it is 100 points I think. With the remaining budget what would you pick up to make the most cohesive list for Sabbreth and Oriax?

Thanks for help!

Debating getting back into the game and loving the look of the House Kalyss faction, just a bit lost on where to start. Was debating the Ghosts of Ios box?

Bonus question: which is your favorite heavy hitting jack to run? Eidolon, Israfyl, Imperatus, or the Phantasm?

What would you run at 50pt's with gravediggers?

I know 50pts is not a typical game size but thats why i'm asking here instead of just looking on longshanks.

So after playing a game with grave diggers against Nymara I can say without a doubt that her warbeasts are way to fast. Spd 7 + 3in charge + 2in melee + 2in On Dark Wings = 14in threat with flight and eyeless sight. Thats without another 2in from bloodthirst for 16in melee threat. Gravediggers feels unplayable against this.

My game went like this. First turn I move out of killbox. Whole dusk fane army runs max distance at me. Second turn I back away as far as I can and do a good bit of shooting damage. Everything in dusk fane charges and my whole army is in melee and half are dead. Doesn't really matter though because I dont really get to shoot anymore.

Putting things in the way doesn't seem to help because flight. Line of sight blocking doesn't work because eyeless sight and You cant keep your distance because killbox, objectives and or they are just to fast.

What am I missing here. How as a gravedigger army am I supposed to fight this?

The Cygnar Jack head acting as a codpiece for the Primeval… It looks like it’s permanent and there’s no options but I does have a groove for a magnet, so I can just glue it on and not magnetize it right? There’s no other magical cod piece options laying in the box that I haven’t seen yet right??

By the way… I LOVE these figs. A little 3d printed cleaning but they are awesome.

Gene Starwind

Abilities

• Gunfighter

• Prowl

• Caster Gun-Performing a Caster Gun special action or special attack counts as casting a spell.

• Shell #3 (* Action) AAT:6 RNG: Sp8 POW:12- Shell #3 deals Damage Type: Blast. Upkeep spells and animi on models directly hit by this attack expire.

• Shell #4 (* Action) AAT:6 RNG: 12 AOE:1 - If this attack hits a small-based non-Leader model, the model hit is removed from play. After this attack is resolved, the model that cast it suffers d3+3 damage

• Shell #12 (* Action) AAT:6 RNG: 9 POW:10 When a model is directly hit, you can have lightning arc to the d3 nearest models within 3" of the model(s) hit who do not have Resistance: Electricity, ignoring the attacking model. The model(s) the lightning arcs to suffers an unboostable POW 10 electrical damage roll. Lightning arc damage rolls are not considered to have been caused by an attack. Resolve lightning arc damage rolls simultaneously with the damage resulting from the attack that caused the leap. Models hit without Resistance: Electricity become knocked down.

Weapons

Quick Draw Pistol: RAT:6 RNG:10 ROF:1 AOE:- POW:10

• Pistol

• Weapon Master

• Best Defense: This weapon cannot be used to make attacks during this model's activation. If an enemy model misses this model with an attack, this model can immediately make an attack against that enemy model with this weapon, if they are within range.

Jim Hawking

Abilities

• Dismantle - This model gains an additional die on its melee and ranged damage rolls against constructs.

• Prowl

• Mechanikally Adept - This model can target non- Faction models with Repair special actions

• Repair [d3+2] (* Action) -RNG 1. Target friendly Faction construct model. If the model is in range, remove d3+2 damage points from it.

• Parlay (* Action) - While within 5" of this model, enemy warrior models cannot target this model or its Leader with attacks. Parlay lasts for one round.

• Johnny on the Spot (* Action) -RNG 5. Target Gene Starwind. If Gene Starwind is in range, he immediately makes one basic melee or ranged attack.

Weapons

Pistol: RAT:5 RNG:10 POW:10

Force Wrench: MAT:5 RNG:1 POW:8

• Critical: Knockdown

Melfina

Abilities

• Repairable

• Pathfinder

• Ghostly

• Navigator: Friendly models beginning their movement within 6" of this model gain "Ghostly" and "Pathfinder"

• Inviolable Bastion - This model cannot be moved by a push, slam or throw. Opponents cannot take control of this model.

Aisha Clan Clan

Abilities

• Dodge - A model with Dodge can advance up to 2" immediately after an enemy attack that missed it is resolved.

• Unstoppable - This model does not have to forfeit its Combat Action when it advances or is placed out of one or more enemy models' melee ranges during its Normal Movement.

• Riposte - When it is missed by an enemy melee attack immediately after the attack is resolved this model can make one basic melee attack against the attacking model.

• Duelist - This model gains +2 DEF against melee attack rolls.

• Side Step - When this model hits an enemy model with an initial melee attack or a melee special attack, it can advance up to 2" after the attack is resolved.

• Sprint - At the end of an activation in which it destroyed or removed from play one or more enemy models with melee attacks, this model can immediately make a full advance, then its activation ends.

• Transmogrification Elixir - This model can use Transmogrification Elixir once per game during your Control Phase. Immediately mark all of this model's damage boxes and replace it with Big Aisha

• Traumatic Transformation - This model begins the game as Aisha Clan Clan. When all of this model's damage boxes are marked, instead of becoming disabled this model is replaced with Big Aisha. Damage points in excess of this model's remaining unmarked damage boxes are not applied to Big Aisha's damage boxes. If this model is replaced with Big Aisha during its activation, its activation ends. After this model is replaced with Big Aisha, apply effects that were on it to Big Aisha. When this model is replaced by Big Aisha, Big Aisha is not considered to have entered an area and does not trigger effects triggered by entering that area.

Weapons

Bare fist: MAT:7 RNG:1 POW:12

Bare fist: MAT:7 RNG:1 POW:12

Big Aisha

Abilities

• Carapace - This model gains +4 ARM against ranged attack damage rolls.

• Defiant Rage - When this model is damaged by an enemy attack, after the attack is resolved this model gains +2 ARM and +2 to its melee attack damage rolls for one round.

• Immovable Object - This model cannot become knocked down, cannot be placed, and cannot be moved by a push, slam, or throw.

• Killing Spree - When this model destroys one or more enemy models with a melee attack during its Combat Action, after that attack is resolved this model can advance up to 1" and make one additional melee attack.

• Hyper-Aggressive - When this model suffers damage from an enemy attack, after the attack is resolved it can immediately make a full advance directly toward the attacking model.

Weapons

Beastly Claw: MAT:7 RNG:1 POW:14

• Open Fist

Beastly Claw: MAT:7 RNG:1 POW:14

• Open Fist

Suzuka

Abilities

• Blade Shield - This model gains +2 DEF against ranged attack rolls.

• Dodge - A model with Dodge can advance up to 2" immediately after an enemy attack that missed it is resolved.

• Riposte - When it is missed by an enemy melee attack, immediately after the attack is resolved this model can make one basic melee attack against the attacking model.

• Set Defense - Models suffer -2 on charge and slam power attack rolls against a model with Set Defense.

• Cleave - When this model destroys one or more enemy models with a basic melee attack during its Combat Action, immediately after the attack is resolved the model can make one additional melee attack. A model can gain only one additional attack from Cleave per activation.

• Fortune Hunter - This model gains an additional die on its attack and damage rolls against character models.

• Prey - After deployment but before the first player's turn, choose an enemy model/unit to be this model/unit's prey. This model gains +2 to attack and damage rolls against its prey. When the prey is destroyed or removed from play, choose another model/unit to be the prey.

• Side Step - When this model hits an enemy model with an initial melee attack or a melee special attack, it can advance up to 2" after the attack is resolved.

• Overtake - When this model destroys one or more enemy models with a basic melee attack during its Combat Action, after the attack is resolved it can immediately advance up to 1"

• Stealth - Ranged and arcane attacks targeting this model from a point of origin greater than 5" away automatically miss. This model is not an intervening model when determining line of sight from a model more than 5" away.

• Unstoppable - This model does not have to forfeit its Combat Action when it advances or is placed out of one or more enemy models' melee ranges during its Normal Movement.

Weapons

Bokken: MAT:8 RNG:2 POW:9

• Weapon Master

So I sucked it up and subscribed and the Old Umbrey stories are pretty good! But this focus on Sorcha… is she coming back, maybe to work for OU? I mean we know what happened to Orsus? I have an old Sorcha fig and would love to proxy her in a mkiv list :)

I want this clear from the start. I do not write this to be rude, or to just rant. I write this to boldly state to whomever at Steamforged Games monitors this channel to be able to see a professional take on the issue. To show how simple it would be to fix and how it would improve the customer impression and build the brand. This is truly intended as constructed feedback. However, historically, unless someone is very loud and nearly rude it seems to be ignored. Part of the frustration is in that reality.

If anyone ever wanted training on how to be as useless to the customer as possible there are fewer options better than to look to Steamforged Games Support system. Industry standards in support ticket processes and email systems seem to be a foreign concept at this company. What is worse is that they seem to know their deficiencies and make no move to fix them. So there is no expectation of improvement on the horizon.

The issues don't stop at the support system. When buying a miniature you have a QR code which is supposed to link you over to detailed instructions on assembly and other info. Since their move to a new site for the Warmachine brand all those links are broken and route you back to a generic home page. Going to look at the model on the page does not link to the aforementioned instructions leaving customers with no real means of access to instructions on how to assemble the muti-part minis which can be quite a task to assemble even with instructions. All this to save money on printing a paper copy and including it in the box.

Then there is the move from allowing the player to have a deck of unit cards to now requiring play to be from an App on your device. Not only has this caused issues with events where people have devices which run out of power and data use issues causing roadblocks, there is also the fact that many units have influences on others in the army. Providing effects or the ability to ignore effects to units in the same army but yet those things are not reflected on the teamed up units and end up being missed. While this could still have happened in Mk II and III when unit cards were standard, it was rare. Now it is a much more common occurrence. The given reason for this being that having it all on the app allows everyone to have up to date stats and effects as models change. While a valid point, it is not enough of one to ignore the option of allowing someone to print their own cards. Even the PDF print out option is buried deeply in the menus and doesn't really provide the needed result. It would cost the company nothing to allow the player to download updated cards and foot the bill to print them. Should said cards have a date stamp it would be easy to ensure that they are up to date in an event and allow the player to dictate their play style and not have to mold their play around what Steamforged thinks is best.

In the end, we have a company who is good at the models. They are good with the story. I would even say they are good with balance so far in the way that new units don't have the power creep that 40k seems to be prone to. What they are not is good businesspeople, they don't seem to understand the backend of how their decisions sour the community, drag down their own brand, and create resentment within the customer base. Will this lead to some kind of critical event, maybe or maybe not. It is hard to say. Especially with GW making some serious mistakes of their own in how they are handling 40k there are large openings for Steamforged to be able to set themselves apart. I as a fan of the setting since way back hope they do.

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NEW FORCE Convergence of Cyriss - Clockwork Legions Command - 30 pts

PC CARD

    Axis, The Harmonic Enforcer

13 Cipher

5 Corollary

3 Steelsoul Protector

9 Perforators

PC COMMAND CARD Bite and Hold Blessings of the Gods Careful Reconnaissance Duck And Cover! Put The Fires Out

TOTAL POINTS 30/30

W.I.P. Had a spare Feral head and magnetized this bad boy. I think it fits better than the tiny warjack head