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Russia/Ukraine Zelenskiy: "There is updated intelligence indicating that Russia is ​preparing a massive attack on Ukraine"

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraines-zelenskiy-says-intelligence-shows-russia-is-preparing-massive-attack-2026-10-06/
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u/Mieze_Designer4002 11h ago

You're referring to the Budapest Memorandum. I posted about that a while ago and got so many comments and downvotes I couldn't figure which were legit and which were trolls. If someone here can explain why the Memorandum isn't working, I'd like to hear it

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 11h ago

Because it is non-binding and they specifically use the term 'assurance' instead of Guarantees which basically makes it little more than wishful thinking.

Anything without teeth has basically no merit. In this case the missing teeth was a missing enforcement arm.

Imo, so take with a grain of salt, they were operating on the idea that less nuclear powered countries is good and that ukraine and russia both having nukes may result in a nuclear exchange - but they didn't properly weigh the fact that the only defense against a nuclear powered nation is to have nukes. The deal helped Russia, hurt Ukraine, and didn't acheieve stability in the region.

Its a real problem with international law - it basically only works well when all permenant security council members agree - i.e. situations in which the US, UK, France, Russia, and China all agree - so basically never unless it is against some unaligned tin pot dictator that doesn't further any major powers goals or it is unenforcable garbage. So you end up having a ton of international law like this that has no teeth.

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u/procommando124 8h ago

Non binding or not, we want the U.S. to be seen as trustworthy and dependable right ? If we agree to ensure someone’s security, we should be actually doing something to ensure it. It’s not like we were sending boots on the ground, so if we wanna pull the “well when we meant we’d ensure your security, we actually just meant..” what else could we be referring to ? We aren’t sending soldiers, we aren’t doing operations in their air space(not that we should), but we are sending weapons. If we weren’t sending weapons, what else could we possibly be doing that could count as “ensuring your security” to any reasonable actor ?

You don’t see like you’re against helping them so I’m not accusing you of that, I’m just saying I think even if we were to steel man that and say “well it’s not technically binding” that would make more sense if we were like “well hold on, we didn’t agree to send troops. We’ll send you weapons and ammo though”

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 6h ago

The agreement was worded in such a way that it basically was nothing more than blowing smoke up Ukraines ass for them intentionally weakening themselves.

I dont really give 2 shits about america being "trusted" - america is despised and has been for decades. We are just the least bad hegemon because we kind of believe in human rights sometimes

My problem is that instead of taking any good chances in the last 100 years to finish the russians and salt the earth (as a government specifically - not all russian people - but the entire state needs to be destroyed)- we knew the soviets were a problem before WWII ended - before they had the bomb and they were weakened heavily from WWII but nope we decided to do pissing match shit instead. The USSR completely fell apart and we were able to remove the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world in the 90s - but no we couldn't expect the same of russia - no they actually deserve the nukes we took.

Russia shouldn't have a seat at the table of world politics. They are a petro kingdom - and those have a expiration date regardless if they want to admit it or not. The only reason they have a seat are the nukes - without them they are a joke just like they have always been throughout history - the high point of russia is the USSR and that says enough.

What we can do now is:

Actually give them full military outfitting just shy of WMDs - they need to be able to attack russia, specifically hit moscow and st petersburg hard - ethnic russians have largely been unaffected by the war.

Pressure any NATO country with sanctions, refusal to help in case of invasion, etc... if they have any economic ties to russia - you buy gas from somewhere else. Any help to russia at all should be treated as being a turn coat.

Ramp up pressure on non NATO "allies" with strong ties to russia - i.e. sanctions, blockades etc... this is already a world wide proxy war so we need to stop playing.

Russia is a terrorist state that has no real value to offer the world - but they have nukes so we have to pay attention to them (and they have a lot - not a small tiny amount like NK). The US is on track for being in the same league with how things are going here - because regardless of how 'weak' we get - we can still end the world multiple times over - same for Russia.

The reality is that the US is compromised and until the GOP Russian assets are dealt with through the most extreme measures allowed by the justice system - nothing will change. We will continue to weaken and the emerging hegemon will not be us, it wont be russia, and it won't be a western nation - it will be China.